Petrodreamlovsk nerf when?

[mantiscore]

 

 

[Mastodon2]

05-10% AA nerf in 6 months I think, must maintain balans and player enjoyment.

[GarrusBrutus]

Let me guess.... You saw Flamu's video?

Petro is strong when playing against random pepegas who show broadside, just like Stalingrad, just like Des Moines, etc. etc.

If only you could angle your ship against it to diminish its damage output severely.... oh wait.

But nonetheless, the ship needs a concealment nerf because the stealth radar is totally unnecessary.

So i guess stealth radar on cruisers is gamebreaking as long as its on US ships (Worcester).

[ZifTTroll]

7 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Petro is strong when playing against random pepegas who show broadside

Yeah seeing how the current playerbase is (teams melting in 3 minutes) Petro is very strong in random but it is not the easiest ship to play and Ive seen many petro players overextend and get spammed to death faster that his teams bbs

[loppantorkel]

14 minutes ago, ZifTTroll said:

Yeah seeing how the current playerbase is (teams melting in 3 minutes) Petro is very strong in random but it is not the easiest ship to play and Ive seen many petro players overextend and get spammed to death faster that his teams bbs

It still enjoys a 59% WR. I know plenty of good players might be playing it, but considering there currently, likely, is a lot of these Petro's on both sides, the WR shouldn't take off similarly to a steel ship such as Stalingrad. Otoh, it would mean WG might have released an OP Russian ship...

 

What does our resident Petro expert @Adm_Ballsey have to report on Petro?

[firerider202]

To answer your question, in a few month at the earliest. Obviously only if she (statistically) overperformes.

[HaachamaShipping]

21 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Let me guess.... You saw Flamu's video?

Petro is strong when playing against random pepegas who show broadside, just like Stalingrad, just like Des Moines, etc. etc.

If only you could angle your ship against it to diminish its damage output severely.... oh wait.

Honestly, as a concept, I feel it is a pretty ok concept. People getting punished for playing bad. Because really, we got enough stuff that is just idiot-proof.

[mantiscore]

6 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

Honestly, as a concept, I feel it is a pretty ok concept. People getting punished for playing bad. Because really, we got enough stuff that is just idiot-proof.

Pretty Ok concept is a huge understatement as it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, mantiscore said:

Pretty Ok concept is a huge understatement as it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

Until an angled Hindenburg decides to dismantle your cruiser, because it just outdpms you and has way better accuracy.

[ImperialAdmiral]

After CV removal most likely bruh

[GarrusBrutus]

4 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Pretty Ok concept is a huge understatement as it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

Maybe you should play the ship before claiming things like that. 

[ZifTTroll]

5 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Pretty Ok concept is a huge understatement as it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

It is good but anything that tanks will suffer from HE and Petro cant really outdpm or outgun HE spammer elites especially long range singe maneuverability is bad to the point of unable to dodge even orbital shells

[Ronchabale]

6 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Pretty Ok concept is a huge understatement as it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

Yeah, pretty much so

Add to that the180 degree turrets

[Lebedjev]

12 comment and i still don't understand, what community is talking about.

Did he use lemon's ink or his first post is only blank ?

[Miragetank90]

Is this written in invisible ink or is there some kind of picture that my potato internet is refusing to load? 

[mantiscore]

7 minutes ago, Lebedjev said:

12 comment and i still don't understand, what community is talking about.

Did he use lemon's ink or his first post is only blank ?

Im here to screech about this ultimate

retardness of a ship

No its just a rage post after getting yeeted in my angled des moines by this soviet wet dream

[The_Finnster]

10 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

Add to that the180 degree turrets

Ahem....360

 

fify

[GarrusBrutus]

2 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Im here to screech about this ultimate

retardness of a ship

Again. Play it and see for yourself.

Or are you one of those "BuT WoWsNuMbErS sAyS iTs Op!" 

[mantiscore]

7 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

Is this written in invisible ink or is there some kind of picture that my potato internet is refusing to load? 

Its a list about the things that put this ship into the same balance line to the other cruisers

[lovelacebeer]

Well I have not player her myself yet so I hesitate to pass judgement on the ship itself. 

 

However as we have seen with the Kremlin and WGs feather light touches to nerfing her AA (despite the fact I have yet to see anyone complaining that she's too good in that regard) I think we can safely say the Petro would also recieve this extremely cautious approach. 

[Miragetank90]

4 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

However as we have seen with the Kremlin and WGs feather light touches to nerfing her AA (despite the fact I have yet to see anyone complaining that she's too good in that regard) I think we can safely say the Petro would also recieve this extremely cautious approach. 

 

Kremlin had both her sigma lowered and alpha reduced since release, actually it was the first nerf IIRC.

 

Everyone only seems to remember the AA nerfing though. Why is that, I wonder?

And those ''feather light'' touches have basically removed Kremlin as a ship with any kind of AA, period. Unless one spends the whole game sniping in the back without getting HE'd even once.

 

I'm not reproaching you, I'm just pointing these out.

 

14 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Its a list about the things that put this ship into the same balance line to the other cruisers

 

I'll take your word for it. 

[Yurra]

Ah, another one of those delusional people who scream "OP" as soon as they see the VMF ensign flying on a ship's mast.

 

30 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

it can do literally everything better than the other cruisers

 

• Exhibit 1: her HE damage output is the worst in tier, both on paper and in practice
• Exhibit 2: her AP alpha damage and salvo damage is hardly best among counterparts, as it's beaten by Yoshino, Puerto Rico and Stalingrad
• Exhibit 3: her AP ricochet angles are not best among counterparts, as Stalingrad, Des Moines, Salem, Puerto Rico and Minotaur all outperform her in that aspect.
• Exhibit 4: her practical durability is not best among counterparts, as Goliath, Moskva, Stalingrad and PR are all more durable.
• Exhibit 5: her concealment is not best among counterparts, as she is outclassed by Minotaur, Colbert, Smolensk, Zao, Worcester, Des Moines, Salem and Goliath
• Exhibit 6: her stealth radar capability is not best among counterparts, as Minotaur get a significantly larger margin between concealment and radar range
• Exhibit 7: her radar duration is absolute garbage tier, as it allows for barely 2 accurate volleys from the Petro captain, and 1 accurate volley from most friendlies supporting her when you take the radar render delay into account
• Exhibit 8: her practical AA power is outclassed by Des Moines, Salem, Minotaur, Worcester and Puerto Rico

If you still feel like denying these facts, I suggest you have a reality check at a therapist.

[mantiscore]

3 minutes ago, Yurra said:

Ah, another one of those delusional people who scream "OP" as soon as they see the VMF ensign flying on a ship's mast.

 

 

• Exhibit 1: her HE damage output is the worst in tier, both on paper and in practice
• Exhibit 2: her AP alpha damage and salvo damage is hardly best among counterparts, as it's beaten by Yoshino, Puerto Rico and Stalingrad
• Exhibit 3: her AP ricochet angles are not best among counterparts, as Stalingrad, Des Moines, Salem, Puerto Rico and Minotaur all outperform her in that aspect.
• Exhibit 4: her practical durability is not best among counterparts, as Goliath, Moskva, Stalingrad and PR are all more durable.
• Exhibit 5: her concealment is not best among counterparts, as she is outclassed by Minotaur, Colbert, Smolensk, Zao, Worcester, Des Moines, Salem and Goliath
• Exhibit 6: her stealth radar capability is not best among counterparts, as Minotaur get a significantly larger margin between concealment and radar range
• Exhibit 7: her radar duration is absolute garbage tier, as it allows for barely 2 accurate volleys from the Petro captain, and 1 accurate volley from most friendlies supporting her when you take the radar render delay into account
• Exhibit 8: her practical AA power is outclassed by Des Moines, Salem, Minotaur, Worcester and Puerto Rico

If you still feel like denying these facts, I suggest you have a reality check at a therapist.

Great list, thank you for your service

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, Yurra said:

Ah, another one of those delusional people who scream "OP" as soon as they see the VMF ensign flying on a ship's mast.

 

 

• Exhibit 1: her HE damage output is the worst in tier, both on paper and in practice
• Exhibit 2: her AP alpha damage and salvo damage is hardly best among counterparts, as it's beaten by Yoshino, Puerto Rico and Stalingrad
• Exhibit 3: her AP ricochet angles are not best among counterparts, as Stalingrad, Des Moines, Salem, Puerto Rico and Minotaur all outperform her in that aspect.
• Exhibit 4: her practical durability is not best among counterparts, as Goliath, Moskva, Stalingrad and PR are all more durable.
• Exhibit 5: her concealment is not best among counterparts, as she is outclassed by Minotaur, Colbert, Smolensk, Zao, Worcester, Des Moines, Salem and Goliath
• Exhibit 6: her stealth radar capability is not best among counterparts, as Minotaur get a significantly larger margin between concealment and radar range
• Exhibit 7: her radar duration is absolute garbage tier, as it allows for barely 2 accurate volleys from the Petro captain, and 1 accurate volley from most friendlies supporting her when you take the radar render delay into account
• Exhibit 8: her practical AA power is outclassed by Des Moines, Salem, Minotaur, Worcester and Puerto Rico

If you still feel like denying these facts, I suggest you have a reality check at a therapist.

One thing where Petro might shine though is survivability - citadel barely sticking out and having one of the thickest platings ever put to a "cruiser" (180+120 around magazines, 40 for engine rooms) as well 50mm upper hull, deck and icebreaker. And then she barely sticks out of the water in first place, making rather small target. Moskva and Stalin also share 50mm platings, but their citadel isn't exactly hidden and then ships themselves can be used as cover for Montana, not the other way around.

[The_Gathering]

So far, I'm actually seeing players getting relatively better games in the Riga, than in the few Petro's I've encounters up until now.