Avoid Stars and stripes hoax.

[arildo81]

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

[anonym_WHY4JO92xZKJ]

8 minutes ago, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

I'm sure that there are at least 5 ships in the last 7 containers

[xxNihilanxx]

14 minutes ago, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

 

Aaaaand this is why we can't have nice things.

 

If you keep spending money on gambling boxes they will keep selling them and lowering the odds to see how far they can push it. You have only yourself to blame.

[arildo81]

I know. ..where is suicide meme macro...?

 

[Logan_MountStuart]

40 minutes ago, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

No one forced you to buy these containers, therefore, if you are unhappy, you are, as you said, an idiot! 

But, if you can afford it and it isn't impacting on living your daily life then you are not an idiot, just someone who spends his cash on a game he likes. 

[xxNihilanxx]

24 minutes ago, Logan_MountStuart said:

But, if you can afford it and it isn't impacting on living your daily life then you are not an idiot, just someone who spends his cash on a game he likes. 

 

In that case he would be better to just buy premium ships/premium time, something with a guaranteed return. Gambling is, and always will be, a mug's game.

 

There's no such thing as a poor bookie - their clientele on the other hand...

[arildo81]

Thing is, I can afford what I buy. Please do not consider that topic as a rant. However, I have always had quite bad "luck" on wg-lottery. So I decided to try my belorusskiluck. I might go as far as saying: wg- randomcontainers are not so random. Someone can still be blue-eyed mickey, I am not. -any more.

[Peroidas]

1 hour ago, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

 

Well, if you spent the same amount of doublons on ships, you would get 4 most expensive ones. And there are only readily available ships, no rares...

 

 

In fact, I calculated the ship values in the boxes: 129 250 dublons (of this around 20 000 each for Alaska and Georgia available only for cash)

 

131 boxes @ 1500 dublons is 196 500. This means that camos and flags in boxes are priced 67 250 dublons...

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 7 Stunden, arildo81 sagte:

Thing is, I can afford what I buy. Please do not consider that topic as a rant. However, I have always had quite bad "luck" on wg-lottery. So I decided to try my belorusskiluck. I might go as far as saying: wg- randomcontainers are not so random. Someone can still be blue-eyed mickey, I am not. -any more.

Do the right thing - stop gambling!

[Sir_Grzegorz]

I did bought the first container that had Ouroboros flag that I have the least amount. Was it reasonable? Probably not. Do I care? No.

 

In second I got Saipan that I bought too, and got dubs back as I have it.

 

So I spend 0 dubs and got some stuff. Now I can buy Basilisk flag that I have the most, so no thank you.

 

In general in such cases of limited number of containers you should ask your self if you buy all of them? If not then do not buy a single one of them. Then there is no gambling involved just calculate it.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

People stop buying these boxes already!

[ForlornSailor]

13 hours ago, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"? 

 

At this point - you might aswell go all the way. Then its not gambling anymore, since you know what you all get right.

[viceadmiral123]

The Santa crates are biased to drop lower tier premium ships, so expect to get more t5-t7 ships compared to t8.

[SeaWolf7]

On 7/9/2020 at 10:02 PM, arildo81 said:

 I've bought 41 containers so far.  I've got 1 ship. 

 

 

That should tell you something about WeGee odds.....

My advice Sir....Put the wallet down!

 

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

Thank you for your contribution, Comrade.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Just to make you feel better:

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/222003-got-alasaka-for-a-cheap-price/

[ImperialAdmiral]

People still complain about gambling? 

LMAO

[HaachamaShipping]

8 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

That should tell you something about WeGee odds.....

I mean, it's not necessarily WG, just how the system works. And sure it's gambling, but the odds are what they are and if you get unlucky, well, that was within the possible outcomes. Others meanwhile could be super lucky and get a ship in first box. 

[SeaWolf7]

11 hours ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

I mean, it's not necessarily WG, just how the system works. And sure it's gambling, but the odds are what they are and if you get unlucky, well, that was within the possible outcomes. Others meanwhile could be super lucky and get a ship in first box. 

No, with respect that's how WG system works.

1 in 41? Unusually Low probable outcome, period. Its about giving a product away for free that you usually make money from.

Never heard of the phrase "The house always wins"? Why does the house need to win more than it looses? because if it didn't it would be out of business.

 

[COPlUM]

On 7/9/2020 at 11:02 PM, arildo81 said:

There is 11 ships in 131 containers. I've bought 41 containers so far. (Yes, I am an idiot) I've got 1 ship. What do you think about WG's Belarusskaja "random"?

1. We admitted we were powerless over RNG lootboxes – that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings
8. Made a list of persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to RNG lootbox gamblers and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

Have you considered the 12 step program to stop your gambling addiction?

[HaachamaShipping]

4 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

No, with respect that's how WG system works.

1 in 41? Unusually Low probable outcome, period. Its about giving a product away for free that you usually make money from.

Let me do two coin flip and when I get only get one side, I'll call [edited] and complain that the national mint is messing with coins, because I should have gotten both sides once. Disregard the 25% possibility of my outcome and the atrocious sample size.

As said before, others literally could get ships within the first container or get them sooner. Same with other RNG events they ran. Personally bought 20 CV containers back in the day, which cost about as much as a premium CV. Now I got all 4 T8 prem CVs. Some others got nothing.

4 hours ago, SeaWolf7 said:

Never heard of the phrase "The house always wins"? Why does the house need to win more than it looses? because if it didn't it would be out of business.

WoWS has a few fundamental differences to a casino though, in that the only cost there is to giving away a virtual item is that you give up the opportunity that this account might have bought that same item at a later point. Creating this specific copy of the item cost literally nothing though. If WG during summer sale decided to not give 30% discount on Massachusetts, but 90%, they'd still make a profit, because the ship already more than made up for its original production cost and any Massa still sold is sold to people who seemingly are unwilling to pay the full price anyway, where 10% is still more than nothing. A casino cannot operate like that, because in a casino, what you win is basically money and they cannot create money out of nothing.

 

This is not meant to say it is wise to gamble on RNG events, but frankly, bad rolls are not proof that randomness has been messed with. Especially given if you go to a Casino, there certainly is no option to just buy all bundles to exhaust the potential outcomes. You potentially might just lose all the time. Obviously though, just like any lottery, the system is set up that the amount of income generated that way covers what you'd pay anyway. So going to the premium shop is cheaper, unless you really like signal flags.

[COPlUM]

To be honest I always puke in my mouth a little when people complain about RNG, it's random, you can get the short end of the stick, you know this going in, if you can't handle it, don't do it. For every unlucky person complaining there's a lucky person not complaining.

[Peroidas]

31 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said:

To be honest I always puke in my mouth a little when people complain about RNG, it's random, you can get the short end of the stick, you know this going in, if you can't handle it, don't do it. For every unlucky person complaining there's a lucky person not complaining.

 

You do know that people who design gambling machine may set it so that it do not throw random results? That it may actually throw results based on fe. what class of ships you do play.

 

It would be advantageous to WG to reduce the chances for people playing CVs regularly to get early access CV missions as that may make some of them buy premium containers.

 

In this case people playing US ships often may have lower chances to get ships, to coerce some (like OP) to spend all the way to the end, in result spending 50% as much as it would cost to simply buy the ships in question. 

[COPlUM]

2 hours ago, Peroidas said:

may set it so that it do not throw random results

I understand but I suppose I lack the cynicism to assume wargaming does this, I think they're pretty cool, frequent content, lots of freebies and if a kid without disposable income wants to be truly free to play the/she isn't handicapped in any way. I have yet to see them do anything unethical, why would I assume lootboxes are.

There's publishers/developers I don't trust, EA games turned the worlds favorite sport -football- into a predatory global online casino for children.

[Miscommunication_dept]

On 7/10/2020 at 1:35 PM, viceadmiral123 said:

So it works kind of like the santa boxes - you get all the t5 premiums before you get all the t6 premiums. Don't even think about t8.

 

rip

Solution is simple.

buy all tier 5-8 premiums and you are guaranteed to get T9 premiums.