Gems of US dds line?

[Vivi_Ornitier]

Got a new us cap from twitch prime and i dont have any ship to put her on. Already got tanky cap for bbs, secondaries cap for meme georgia, cap for wooster and cap for salem. So i thought about getting one of the lower Tier dds (up to t7 or t8) and leave her there. Not really interested on gearing since i already got YY who is very similar. 

Any suggestion? 

[doerhoff_damian]

Mahan is a nice DD at Tier 7. 3,3 Seconds Relolad on the Main Guns and 9,2 km Torps

[Jvd2000]

Wel there is only Clemson, the first real sealclubber ship.  Its T4 and dont know how the CV meme is now changing that tier...

 

T5 and T6 are not the best. T7 is always in a bad spot although Mahan (T7) did get a small reload buff.

[lafeel]

Farragut and Mahan are both good, not gotten further than that so far..

[Vivi_Ornitier]

1 minute ago, Jvd2000 said:

Wel there is only Clemson, the first real sealclubber ship.  Its T4 and dont know how the CV meme is now changing that tier...

 

T5 and T6 are not the best. T7 is always in a bad spot although Mahan (T7) did get a small reload buff.

Forgot to say that i dont wanna sealclub. that leaves the options from t5 to t8. 

[lafeel]

Forgot to mention that if Kidd is anything to go by the Fletcher is very strong indeed.

[waxx25]

Benson! At tier 8 it is still a great DD.

[elblancogringo]

US DDs is a line in which there is no bad ships. There are good and excellent DDs. The best for me are

Clemson

Nicholas

Benson

Fletcher

[Jvd2000]

35 minutes ago, Vivi_Ornitier said:

Forgot to say that i dont wanna sealclub. that leaves the options from t5 to t8. 

 OK,

 

I think the US premium DD's are ok too . I like the Hill (T5) so should not be too expensive. The premium T7 and 8 are very ok too but again a bit more expensive. 

[Verblonde]

43 minutes ago, Vivi_Ornitier said:

Forgot to say that i dont wanna sealclub.

Are you unwell?!

 

Being sensible, my highly biased opinion is that there are no utter turkeys anywhere in the line really, and they play similarly to each other, with logical progression as you go up the tiers. Some brief views by tier:

• Clemson is really good/fun (although I'm rubbish in her); it's only really unsporting to play her if you're an actively good player.
• Tier 5&6 are similar: decent gunboats with semi-YOLO torps; they're worth playing as they give you a useful grounding in how the US dakka behaves. Both have DefAA (as does everything after), which is helpful for fending off the inevitable CV plague; you can take engine boost instead if you feel the urge, but it seems a shame (with the T5 anyway) not to make life slightly more difficult for any T4 CVs that come your way.
• Tier 7 is where you get the ability to stealth torp (not stock though), although the torps are sloooow (55 kts) and remain so until you get the upgraded ones on Feltcher.
• Tier 8 is a good all-rounder; decent at most things, but not awesome at anything.
• Feltcher at T9 is an excellent ship; she's noticeably better than Benson (and most other things at T9 tier come to that) and has no real glaring weakspots. If you've played the PA version, they're similar, only Feltcher has normal torps and gets DefAA.
• Tier 10 is where you get what YY might have been if she hadn't been mercilessly beaten with the nerf bat (with extra nails through it); I would strongly urge you to get Gearing if you have the time - for me, she's even better than Feltcher, and that takes some doing. You can either build her for torps (16.5 km reach), or dakka, or you can take one of - IMO - the few worthwhile LUs, which makes her about as sneaky as Shima, in exchange for the loss of some DPM.

So, my feeling is they're all pretty decent until T8, and after that get really good - it is worth getting the T10.

 

BTW if you want a bit of US DDage and lack the patience to grind, there are several premiums that do the job: Kidd at T8 is more or less a Feltcher a tier lower, but minus a torp launcher and with a heal (good AA too), and Sims at T7 is worth a look; also, at some point Black will be returning for coal - she's essentially a premium Feltcher, only with radar and glacially slow torps.

[Butterdoll]

Clemson was a pig for me, the guns suck

Nicholas it's my favourite, I'm at Farragut.

[Yedwy]

IMHO due to powercreep they are all kinda meh, neither good nor bad

[FallenOrchid]

They are all great ships. Good guns, decent smoke, good enough AA at least to keep bad CVs away. Farragut and lower tiers have rather short torp range (cannot torp undetected).

[CptMinia]

Hello,

          Benson in my opinion remains the best DD in the non-premium US tech-tree. I actually prefer it over the Fletcher thanks to its better mobility. It is a DD which demands for the player to have the basics mastered but she is very good in the right hands. Overall though, the USS Kidd still remains one of the best performing T8 DDs in the game and a noteworthy mention if you're planning to buy a USN DD.

 

Kind regards,

                       Minia

[Vivi_Ornitier]

2 hours ago, Verblonde said:

Are you unwell?!

 

Being sensible, my highly biased opinion is that there are no utter turkeys anywhere in the line really, and they play similarly to each other, with logical progression as you go up the tiers. Some brief views by tier:

• Clemson is really good/fun (although I'm rubbish in her); it's only really unsporting to play her if you're an actively good player.
• Tier 5&6 are similar: decent gunboats with semi-YOLO torps; they're worth playing as they give you a useful grounding in how the US dakka behaves. Both have DefAA (as does everything after), which is helpful for fending off the inevitable CV plague; you can take engine boost instead if you feel the urge, but it seems a shame (with the T5 anyway) not to make life slightly more difficult for any T4 CVs that come your way.
• Tier 7 is where you get the ability to stealth torp (not stock though), although the torps are sloooow (55 kts) and remain so until you get the upgraded ones on Feltcher.
• Tier 8 is a good all-rounder; decent at most things, but not awesome at anything.
• Feltcher at T9 is an excellent ship; she's noticeably better than Benson (and most other things at T9 tier come to that) and has no real glaring weakspots. If you've played the PA version, they're similar, only Feltcher has normal torps and gets DefAA.
• Tier 10 is where you get what YY might have been if she hadn't been mercilessly beaten with the nerf bat (with extra nails through it); I would strongly urge you to get Gearing if you have the time - for me, she's even better than Feltcher, and that takes some doing. You can either build her for torps (16.5 km reach), or dakka, or you can take one of - IMO - the few worthwhile LUs, which makes her about as sneaky as Shima, in exchange for the loss of some DPM.

So, my feeling is they're all pretty decent until T8, and after that get really good - it is worth getting the T10.

 

BTW if you want a bit of US DDage and lack the patience to grind, there are several premiums that do the job: Kidd at T8 is more or less a Feltcher a tier lower, but minus a torp launcher and with a heal (good AA too), and Sims at T7 is worth a look; also, at some point Black will be returning for coal - she's essentially a premium Feltcher, only with radar and glacially slow torps.

Wow! All comments were very helpful, but yours is truly great insight. You made me consider grinding to t10.. Im enjoying dds a lot lately (marceau and jutland), even if i probably have bad stats on em (havent, and wont, checked). Mostly because im awful at torping and sometimes at decission making in em. Too used to my cruisers :D

[GulvkluderGuld]

Lots have happened since I grinder the tree 4 years ago. These days due to powercreep I find silver US dds are decidedly mediocre with the notable exception of tier 9 Fletcher and tier X Gearing (but even those I don't play anymore!). 

 

The premiums are excellent including Benham and Somers as are the Sims and possibly Kidd.  

 

If you have to pick a tier 5-8 i wouldnt pick one, but probably benson tier 8 is still playable and the tier 4 and 5 were fun yoloboats but before the tier 4 CV situation became intolerable.

 

If you like the panasians, the US dds should be right down you alley except their torps are better (can hit dds too) and smokes have longer cool down but last longer (not so flexible in the CV age).

[Verblonde]

19 minutes ago, Vivi_Ornitier said:

insight

I should probably mention that my PoV is that of a mediocre WR player; unicums will probably think differently, at least in some respects.

[That_Other_Nid]

I have both lines and with all the nerfs to the PA T9 and T10 the US versions are well worth the trouble to get. With all the gunboats in other lines of late they are more torpedo boats than gun boats now but still the best balanced ships in their tiers. 

 

I have Gadja Mada, Chung Mu, Yeyang, Fletcher and Gearing with 19 point captains.

[Arrive_Alive]

They're all good and fun to play. Only Benson didn't perform that well for me, but mainly thanks to shitty MM. Nowadays T8 MM is way better.

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 10 Stunden, Vivi_Ornitier sagte:

Got a new us cap from twitch prime and i dont have any ship to put her on. Already got tanky cap for bbs, secondaries cap for meme georgia, cap for wooster and cap for salem. So i thought about getting one of the lower Tier dds (up to t7 or t8) and leave her there. Not really interested on gearing since i already got YY who is very similar. 

Any suggestion? 

Not sure if you plan on using free XP? If so I would like to strongly advise against it. As usual play the entire line from tier 2. This way you would also be able to answer your question yourself.

[Gebe_]

US DDs have been powercrept and are decidedly mediocre now. Gearing still good for competitive.

[Vivi_Ornitier]

1 hour ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

Not sure if you plan on using free XP? If so I would like to strongly advise against it. As usual play the entire line from tier 2. This way you would also be able to answer your question yourself.

No, wont free exp. But maybe i reach, lets say, Tier 6 and enjoy it and then decide not to play more. I could miss other higher tier gems, thats why i ask. To know when to stop. 

[Hugh_Ruka]

Farragut hands down. While Mahan is better, her tier and concealment make things difficult at times. Farragut you just build as a full gunboat and spam away ...

[Spartan_Renegade]

Benham and Fletcher can be very deadly opponents

[Yedwy]

3 minutes ago, SpartanRenegade said:

Benham and Fletcher can be very deadly opponents

Yeah and Kita or Mogador will ra*e them every time, Ostergotland as well, Jutland also is a handfull, yea ofc the US DDs are still playable but not good...

 

Besides Benham is a neraly impossible to get premium