[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #1 Posted July 2, 2020 Ranked Sprint 12 EU server stats: Warship Type Popularity Win rate Avg. damage Alabama ST Battleship 0% 65% 70 113 Leaderboard Enterprise Aircraft Carrier 1.8% 61.21% 65 399 Leaderboard Lenin Battleship 2% 59.39% 70 941 Leaderboard Kidd Destroyer 1.8% 58.72% 31 946 Leaderboard Massachusetts Battleship 5% 58.53% 76 625 Leaderboard Bayard Cruiser 0.8% 58.23% 60 857 Leaderboard Massachusetts B Battleship 1.6% 57.99% 77 143 Leaderboard Mikhail Kutuzov Cruiser 1.7% 57.28% 67 827 Leaderboard Loyang Destroyer 2% 57.26% 29 346 Leaderboard Asashio B Destroyer 0.3% 56.31% 50 142 Leaderboard Mainz Cruiser 1.4% 56.22% 59 958 Leaderboard Cossack Destroyer 2.9% 56.01% 35 875 Leaderboard Cleveland Cruiser 2.9% 55.26% 46 993 Leaderboard Kii Battleship 0.7% 54.71% 64 440 Leaderboard Akizuki Destroyer 3.7% 54.51% 39 633 Leaderboard Odin Battleship 1% 54.46% 61 588 Leaderboard ARP Takao Cruiser 1.1% 54.4% 51 826 Leaderboard Kaga Aircraft Carrier 1% 54.26% 62 759 Leaderboard Atago Cruiser 1.9% 54.02% 51 077 Leaderboard Baltimore Cruiser 2.6% 53.88% 42 769 Leaderboard Prinz Eugen Cruiser 1.2% 53.74% 44 957 Leaderboard Edinburgh Cruiser 2.1% 53.6% 40 764 Leaderboard Lightning Destroyer 2.4% 53.45% 29 975 Leaderboard Shōkaku Aircraft Carrier 2.5% 53.42% 59 279 Leaderboard HSF Harekaze Destroyer 0.4% 53.42% 32 577 Leaderboard Wichita Cruiser 0.3% 53.37% 46 976 Leaderboard Asashio Destroyer 1% 52.95% 47 875 Leaderboard Atago B Cruiser 0.5% 52.57% 50 951 Leaderboard Le Terrible Destroyer 0.3% 52.51% 29 469 Leaderboard Vladivostok Battleship 3.1% 52.46% 61 163 Leaderboard Roma Battleship 0.4% 52.17% 59 906 Leaderboard Saipan Aircraft Carrier 0.5% 52.08% 59 052 Leaderboard Gascogne Battleship 0.3% 51.85% 60 869 Leaderboard Amalfi Cruiser 1.5% 51.81% 43 274 Leaderboard Ochakov Cruiser 0.2% 51.71% 38 156 Leaderboard Bismarck Battleship 6.8% 51.7% 57 753 Leaderboard Tallinn Cruiser 1.5% 51.68% 39 694 Leaderboard Irian Cruiser 0.7% 51.61% 51 897 Leaderboard Orkan Destroyer 0.4% 51.53% 24 802 Leaderboard Ognevoi Destroyer 0.5% 51.44% 26 160 Leaderboard Lexington Aircraft Carrier 2.3% 51.32% 56 979 Leaderboard Benson Destroyer 1.5% 51.32% 27 109 Leaderboard Tirpitz Battleship 5% 51.1% 60 242 Leaderboard Le Fantasque Destroyer 0.6% 51.07% 30 203 Leaderboard Graf Zeppelin B Aircraft Carrier 0.4% 50.96% 54 680 Leaderboard Pyotr Bagration Cruiser 0.8% 50.95% 42 534 Leaderboard Mogami Cruiser 1.8% 50.92% 42 487 Leaderboard Z-23 Destroyer 1.4% 50.65% 25 793 Leaderboard Graf Zeppelin Aircraft Carrier 1% 50.63% 54 374 Leaderboard Amagi Battleship 1.4% 50.62% 61 632 Leaderboard Cheshire Cruiser 0.1% 50.57% 45 455 Leaderboard Richelieu Battleship 1.8% 50.56% 58 708 Leaderboard Charles Martel Cruiser 1.1% 50.3% 47 266 Leaderboard Tirpitz B Battleship 0.8% 50.25% 58 478 Leaderboard Öland Destroyer 2.7% 50.24% 26 246 Leaderboard Kiev Destroyer 0.4% 50.1% 29 244 Leaderboard Indomitable Aircraft Carrier 0.1% 49.87% 55 700 Leaderboard Chapayev Cruiser 1.5% 49.79% 41 847 Leaderboard Hsienyang Destroyer 0.5% 49.67% 28 303 Leaderboard AL Montpelier Cruiser 0% 49.52% 45 651 Leaderboard Ragnarok Battleship 0.1% 49.49% 57 094 Leaderboard Alabama Battleship 0.8% 49.43% 65 606 Leaderboard Ignis Purgatio Battleship 0.1% 49.32% 58 352 Leaderboard Albemarle Cruiser 1% 49.28% 42 112 Leaderboard AL Yukikaze Destroyer 0.1% 49.08% 34 677 Leaderboard Champagne Battleship 0.3% 49.07% 65 526 Leaderboard Siliwangi Destroyer 0.1% 48.59% 35 145 Leaderboard Monarch Battleship 0.9% 48.31% 54 664 Leaderboard Kagerō Destroyer 2.6% 48.08% 27 543 Leaderboard Admiral Hipper Cruiser 2% 48.08% 39 883 Leaderboard Implacable Aircraft Carrier 1.1% 47.18% 45 849 Leaderboard North Carolina Battleship 2.6% 46.93% 59 554 Leaderboard Vanguard Battleship 0.3% 46.3% 54 905 Leaderboard Wukong Cruiser 0% 45.45% 49 232 Leaderboard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #2 Posted July 2, 2020 It certainly seems pretty good against tier 8 ships and those guns feelmore accurate than I expected. Wargaming MAY have made the Odin a balanced ship. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azalgor Beta Tester 1,046 posts 20,419 battles Report post #3 Posted July 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Wargaming MAY have made the Odin a balanced ship. Patropavlovsk may disagree... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Alteisen Beta Tester 151 posts 16,204 battles Report post #4 Posted July 2, 2020 Vanguard at 46.3% So much potential held back by awful rear turret angles. The stats for Odin in random battles don't t look too bad either. It's seems that the community may have overreacted again, just like with Prinz Eitel Friedrich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #5 Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alteisen said: Vanguard at 46.3% So much potential held back by awful rear turret angles. On related note, the stats for Odin in random battles don't t look too bad either. It's seems that the community overreacted again, just like with Prinz Eitel Friedrich. Community's reaction should be calmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Besserwisser3000 Players 376 posts 7,978 battles Report post #6 Posted July 2, 2020 Odin doing well, until your team is (as usual) full of human feces on your side and there is a WG team on the other side, sailing around in rigged premiums (Alabama and Asashio). Thanks WG, I`ll make sure to accidentally torp the next WG clan tag out of the game. Can`t believe I paid you money. Last time I made that mistake, rest assured. On a side note: Massa doing 76k dmg vs 61k in Odin. That ship clearly needed the hp and gun nerf and the Massa is completely fine. WG devs really are highly intelligent individuals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #7 Posted July 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, Besserwisser3000 said: Odin doing well, until your team is (as usual) full of human feces on your side and there is a WG team on the other side, sailing around in rigged premiums (Alabama and Asashio). Thanks WG, I`ll make sure to accidentally torp the next WG clan tag out of the game. Can`t believe I paid you money. Last time I made that mistake, rest assured. On a side note: Massa doing 76k dmg vs 61k in Odin. That ship clearly needed the hp and gun nerf and the Massa is completely fine. WG devs really are highly intelligent individuals. How did you die in 4 minutes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COTNS] statist9999 Players 19 posts 18,481 battles Report post #8 Posted July 2, 2020 wild guess broadsiding against the Alabamas and/or eating an Asashio torpspread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #9 Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said: Ranked Sprint 12 EU server stats: Should be noted that this is, and the stats do clearly show this, a very small sample size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #10 Posted July 2, 2020 These stats cannot be used to determine a ship's general strength though, only how well it fits the game mode. There is of course a relation between the strength of the ship and the ranked results but since you require so few battles to rank out, the results are more indicative of which ships good players deem strong/suitable. On the other hand, you have objectively strong ships like Massachusetts which will do well in almost every game mode but the smaller scale of ranked means that they will excel by default. Even then, the relatively low sample size means that the statistics have a high degree of uncertainty: just compare the results of Atago, Tirpitz and Asashio to their black versions and you'll see what I mean. Odin, as a relatively new ship increases this effect even further. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #11 Posted July 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: These stats cannot be used to determine a ship's general strength though, only how well it fits the game mode. There is of course a relation between the strength of the ship and the ranked results but since you require so few battles to rank out, the results are more indicative of which ships good players deem strong/suitable. On the other hand, you have objectively strong ships like Massachusetts which will do well in almost every game mode but the smaller scale of ranked means that they will excel by default. Even then, the relatively low sample size means that the statistics have a high degree of uncertainty: just compare the results of Atago, Tirpitz and Asashio to their black versions and you'll see what I mean. Odin, as a relatively new ship increases this effect even further. 17 minutes ago, lafeel said: Should be noted that this is, and the stats do clearly show this, a very small sample size. Guys, you're right. But both Atago and Atago B are in the upper half, likewise Tirpitz and Tirpitz B are in the upper half. So Odin is probably in the upper half. So it's not a meh ship. And I rather use preliminary stats than base my opinion on some emotionally biased review. Also, if you check out other well known ships, these stats mirror the general opinion (e.g. Lenin/Massachusetts being OP). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #12 Posted July 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: Guys, you're right. But both Atago and Atago B are in the upper half, likewise Tirpitz and Tirpitz B are in the upper half. So Odin is probably in the upper half. So it's not a meh ship. And I rather use preliminary stats than base my opinion on some emotionally biased review. Also, if you check out other well known ships, these stats mirror the general opinion (e.g. Lenin/Massachusetts being OP). I'm not saying she's neccessarily a bad ship, I am just saying that right now the sample size is too small to be sure. For what it's worth at least two CC's I know of also liked her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ELEC] LiveWire___ Players 1,195 posts 9,252 battles Report post #13 Posted July 2, 2020 Roma for the win. I got what I wanted out of the event: just over 7,000,000 credits for already having Graf Spee, and a 10 pt commander. Odin can go hang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #14 Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, lafeel said: I'm not saying she's neccessarily a bad ship, I am just saying that right now the sample size is too small to be sure. For what it's worth at least two CC's I know of also liked her. A lot of people don't do the Odin grind thinking it's a meh ship. The preliminary data indicates that they would probably regret their decision later. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #15 Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: A lot of people don't do the Odin grind thinking it's a meh ship. The preliminary data indicates that they would probably regret their decision later. I'd have to agree. Well, time will tell who has the last laugh eh? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #16 Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Ocsimano18 said: A lot of people don't do the Odin grind thinking it's a meh ship. Where do you get that from? The event is pretty easy until now and a lot of players are very quick with the credit card (see PR and number of Odins swimming around). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #17 Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Where do you get that from? The event is pretty easy until now and a lot of players are very quick with the credit card (see PR and number of Odins swimming around). That final directive is a doozy though, sure there are no nationality restrictions on it, but you seen the amount of xp/credits/damage you need to do to finish it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted July 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, lafeel said: That final directive is a doozy though, sure there are no nationality restrictions on it, but you seen the amount of xp/credits/damage you need to do to finish it? 140k normal XP and 55 kills (CoOP possible) are not that hard. The rest is double in 7 days and I will have at least 10 days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #19 Posted July 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: 140k normal XP and 55 kills (CoOP possible) are not that hard. The rest is double in 7 days and I will have at least 10 days. 55 kills is the easy bit. 140k xp though in co op is going to be a slog. Best of luck with it mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #20 Posted July 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, lafeel said: 55 kills is the easy bit. 140k xp though in co op is going to be a slog. Best of luck with it mate. You do not do that in CoOp... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_OC_] Mastodon2 Players 110 posts 1,571 battles Report post #21 Posted July 2, 2020 Where does one go to get these stats? With the no-doubt impending announcement of Italian BBs this evening I'd like to know how good Roma is overall, not just in ranked sprint, where she looks bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #22 Posted July 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, lafeel said: 55 kills is the easy bit. 140k xp though in co op is going to be a slog. Best of luck with it mate. Don't think Pete is planning to do the exp grind in coop... I'm just going to hold off on collecting the free premium days from dock yard progress until I need them, and then farm exp in randoms. If I haven't completed the kills objective by the time I have the 140k exp, I'll just farm them in coop. With some camos and signals, 140k exp is easily done in 2-3 evenings. Just getting all three daily containers is what, 38k? It's not as if that takes long with premium active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FBC] Logan_MountStuart Players 416 posts 10,715 battles Report post #23 Posted July 2, 2020 Odin is ok, it's pretty well balanced at T8, but doesn't cope well when uptiered, the guns seem to be easily damaged against Soyuz, Musashi and even Vladi, but it's ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #24 Posted July 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Where do you get that from? The event is pretty easy until now and a lot of players are very quick with the credit card (see PR and number of Odins swimming around). Read it here on the forums. 11 minutes ago, Mastodon2 said: Where does one go to get these stats? With the no-doubt impending announcement of Italian BBs this evening I'd like to know how good Roma is overall, not just in ranked sprint, where she looks bad. https://wows-numbers.com/ 7 minutes ago, Logan_MountStuart said: Odin is ok, it's pretty well balanced at T8, but doesn't cope well when uptiered, the guns seem to be easily damaged against Soyuz, Musashi and even Vladi, but it's ok. Very few T8 BB uptier well. Even the Massa melts quickly under T10 HE spam. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #25 Posted July 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said: Very few T8 BB uptier well. Even the Massa melts quickly under T10 HE spam. And that's not even mentioning what 460mm AP can do to her if you show too much broadside, trust me it's not pretty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
