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50 minutes ago, Salentine said:

report on the BBC news from a group of experts to UK MP's recommends urgent action classifying loot boxes as gambling.

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51 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Thats good, couse it is

And a foul version of it, as there is, in most cases, no information about the odds.

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Loot boxes should be classified as gambling everywhere because it is.

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2 hours ago, Salentine said:

report on the BBC news from a group of experts to UK MP's recommends urgent action classifying loot boxes as gambling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53253195

While I hope that the loot boxes will be classified, I suspect that this report will be quietly ignored by our wondrous leaders. 

If anything happens then it will be so far off in the future that most of us will be no longer playing WoWs. Or it will be watered-down so much as not to have an effect on the practice. 

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Vor 2 Minuten, Cambera_1 sagte:

While I hope that the loot boxes will be classified, I suspect that this report will be quietly ignored by our wondrous leaders. 

If anything happens then it will be so far off in the future that most of us will be no longer playing WoWs. Or it will be watered-down so much as not to have an effect on the practice. 

It will be ignored like many other reports before. Same here on the continent. I am hoping for a regulation since they just did it in Belgium. I can't even remember when this was.

Such mechanism in a game without age restriction :fish_palm: how greedy and scummy can one be....

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29 minutes ago, Cambera_1 said:

While I hope that the loot boxes will be classified, I suspect that this report will be quietly ignored by our wondrous leaders. 

If anything happens then it will be so far off in the future that most of us will be no longer playing WoWs. Or it will be watered-down so much as not to have an effect on the practice. 

I am pretty sure I read somewhere EU is preparing a summary act to govern similar stuff in future, once it takes form of a directive its obligatory for all EU states AFAIK... Now the question is what with the "gray zone" ie the same boxes available through arsenal for gold currency, reason why these are a grey zone is that you can in fact get the in game currency - in game, for free... I suspect we end up with arsenal only boxes for doubloons

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3 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

I am pretty sure I read somewhere EU is preparing a summary act to govern similar stuff in future, once it takes form of a directive its obligatory for all EU states AFAIK... Now the question is what with the "gray zone" ie the same boxes available through arsenal for gold currency, reason why these are a grey zone is that you can in fact get the in game currency - in game, for free... I suspect we end up with arsenal only boxes for doubloons

Unfortunately the UK will not be inside the EU so WG will be able to carry on as they are. 

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1 hour ago, 159Hunter said:

no information about the odds.

Without independent knowledge, access and supervision of the mechanics and odds, it is not even proper gambling - it can be anything from vague promises to outright fraud.

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49 minutes ago, Cambera_1 said:

Unfortunately the UK will not be inside the EU so WG will be able to carry on as they are. 

:Smile_sad:

Doesn't mean our government won't be able to make laws for this sort of thing in-genral.

The only problem is like most governments they are either too inept, incompetent, corrupt or too busy playing some modern and less violent version of game of thrones.

 

It's like the human Id basically rules over most people atm, while ego is barely existing and superego struggles to exist half the time.

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2 hours ago, Origin47 said:

Loot boxes should be classified as gambling everywhere because it is.

This. And it's a bloody disgrace this company has labeled it's game age restriction to 7+ while pushing this stuff in game.

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In the way that it is implemented in games currently, it should be classified as scams, as there are no requirements for how the random generator should work, nor any information of odds nor rules of how they may (mis)represent those odds.

 

This law is required everywhere.

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10 minutes ago, thiextar said:

In the way that it is implemented in games currently, it should be classified as scams, as there are no requirements for how the random generator should work, nor any information of odds nor rules of how they may (mis)represent those odds.

 

This law is required everywhere.

Yeah at least if i go and play roulette i know my odds, what i risk. 

 

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5 hours ago, Salentine said:

report on the BBC news from a group of experts to UK MP's recommends urgent action classifying loot boxes as gambling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53253195

 

I have always been puzzled why WG gives any attention to EU laws.

All they have to do is keep their business out of the EU.

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Hello,

          Moved the thread to off-topic as this isn't specifically about game discussion but more a problem with the game industry as a whole.

 

Kind regards,

                       Minia

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14 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

I have always been puzzled why WG gives any attention to EU laws.

because they are an EU company.

14 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

All they have to do is keep their business out of the EU.

and lose the EU market?

 

 

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If only the subject header were accurate. Better way of putting it would be 'committee with no formal means of enforcing its suggestions recommends lootboxes be classed as gambling in the UK'. I hope they will be treated as such, and soon, but somehow I expect our glorious leaders will act with about the same urgency as a stoned, sleep-deprived snail carrying some heavy shopping.

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27 minutes ago, TeaAndTorps said:

If only the subject header were accurate. Better way of putting it would be 'committee with no formal means of enforcing its suggestions recommends lootboxes be classed as gambling in the UK'. I hope they will be treated as such, and soon, but somehow I expect our glorious leaders will act with about the same urgency as a stoned, sleep-deprived snail carrying some heavy shopping.

 

The thing is, it would be an "easy" win for the Government, a bit of good PR at a time when they need some, but I bet they still drag their heals about it!

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I'm not in UK, but what's the problem? Just change your location in acc settings and you are ok to buy loot boxes! BTW i have never bought any myself

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I guess that's why WG has these random 500 dubloons bundles now. That doesn't count as gambling, since you can see what you're buying.

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42 minutes ago, Saltface said:

because they are an EU company.

and lose the EU market?

their headquarters are in Cyprus only for tax reasons. I'm sure they could strike a comparable deal in Belarus.

 

they wouldn't lose the EU market, as Wargaming's business is online.

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