Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #1 Posted June 30, 2020 It's something I have witnessed a lot lately and which I find quite interesting, though in reality very frustrating. You know that moment, where you've fired a couple of shots at the enemy, released your massive load of torpedos (#balanced) , dodged massive amounts of incoming fire, made it out alive, laughed the enemy in the face.. And that moment you go undetected, or made it out of range, hid into smoke.. Out of nowhere a last, devestating salvo of pain arrives on a cloud of anger.. ..delivering citadel hits, fires, destroyed modules, massive damage and you're like What the f#+k!! I almost made it! Where did that come from?! arrgh (pain!) What do you think, gents? Has that happened to you? 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted June 30, 2020 Its called blindfire works pretty well 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted June 30, 2020 Players shoot these salvos, not WG or the game, they do not come out of nowhere when you do not know where they come from, you should work on your map awareness flight times can be up to 20s and some people even give of a shot shortly after you go undetected it is only natural that you face incoming fire for some time after you go undetected 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #4 Posted June 30, 2020 When in a DD, they always even know which way and when I make my attempt to turn... Ka-BOOM! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DD537] Episparh Players 1,403 posts 20,619 battles Report post #5 Posted June 30, 2020 "... For Broadside, for broadsideA long time we layBlow high, blow lowAnd so sail we ... " 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #6 Posted June 30, 2020 Some of my best salvoes against DDs were blind shooting :D It probably has a lot to do with the fact that ships in smoke are either stationary or moving slowly, so if you memorize where they were and RNG gods allow, more shells may connect than on other occasions. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #7 Posted June 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Players shoot these salvos, not WG or the game, they do not come out of nowhere when you do not know where they come from, you should work on your map awareness flight times can be up to 20s and some people even give of a shot shortly after you go undetected it is only natural that you face incoming fire for some time after you go undetected Sooo.. you really think you have to defend WG against a post like this? Wow... You're sure you're not a bot, programmed for such behaviour? ^^ 7 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #8 Posted June 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: Sooo.. you really think you have to defend WG against a post like this? Wow... You're sure you're not a bot, programmed for such behaviour? ^^ I am just explaining to him how it works. If spreading knowlege is the equivalent of defending WG, then I am sure this will never happen to you... 2 3 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #9 Posted June 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: I am just explaining to him how it works. If spreading knowlege is the equivalent of defending WG, then I am sure this will never happen to you... Definately not. If I were to educate people in this game and/or forum I'd expect to get paid for it :) 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #10 Posted July 1, 2020 Pete, you fell for it. Get outta here.. I was litterally describing a kind of a phenomenon, not bashing RNG or WG. To me its often the last salvo, that does the most damage. That's it. It's kind of a funny way of life (or rng) saying: "Not so fast, young man. you haven't opened your gift, yet" Also, It doesnt have to be blind firing. Sometimes the salvo is shot a moment before you go undedected. And it doesn't really matter. Its about the idea, not the technicality. [edit: I just added the RNG choice for fun. It worked! :D] 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11 Posted July 1, 2020 Not very familiar with the concept. Usually, the most devastating salvo is the one fired by whatever Italian cruiser or big gun BB with a player that can actually aim. Might be first, might be last, might be in the middle. Frankly, if you get devastated by a last salvo, it usually just means that there was someone further away that paid attention in big ship that has an idea how to aim (and predict turns) and fired while still having target lock, but shells arrived after you got unspotted. Given the range that would need to be involved, it's usually something with a crapton of alpha, like a BB, a heavy cruiser or a supercruiser and thus you can guess why it hurts so much. After all, when for example two Fletchers meet each other, the individual DD salvos don't do a lot per salvo, but if some Zao, Brindisi, BB decides to join in, their salvo might take a bit longer to arrive but obviously does a good bit more if it hits. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #12 Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Episparh said: "... For Broadside, for broadsideA long time we layBlow high, blow lowAnd so sail we ... " Storm Weather Shanty Choir's version of that one is brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #13 Posted July 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: Definately not. If I were to educate people in this game and/or forum I'd expect to get paid for it :) Since you are not explaning stuff, one could say your posts are unconstructive? Is there not something in the forum rules about that? 4 hours ago, Knutorius said: Pete, you fell for it. Get outta here.. When you do not want answers, do not ask questions. And no, it is not a phenomenon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #14 Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said: [...]like a BB, a heavy cruiser or a supercruiser and thus you can guess why it hurts so much. Yeah, sometimes it's actually a BB in the back. And often I feel its someone else paying attention In general I meant, that the last salvo actually does the main damage. So you could have doged a lot of potential dmg already, but the last one would actually hit (hard). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] GraySlayer Players 645 posts 5,471 battles Report post #15 Posted July 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Knutorius said: It's something I have witnessed a lot lately and which I find quite interesting, though in reality very frustrating. You know that moment, where you've fired a couple of shots at the enemy, released your massive load of torpedos (#balanced) , dodged massive amounts of incoming fire, made it out alive, laughed the enemy in the face.. And that moment you go undetected, or made it out of range, hid into smoke.. Out of nowhere a last, devestating salvo of pain arrives on a cloud of anger.. ..delivering citadel hits, fires, destroyed modules, massive damage and you're like What the f#+k!! I almost made it! Where did that come from?! arrgh (pain!) What do you think, gents? Has that happened to you? I have experienced this a lot in DDs myself. I have got out alive by the skin of me teeth, i've gone dark and I look up and can see it, that one shell on its way. It's like an inevitable harbinger of doom and I know, I just know what's going to happen. It lands (of course) normally on my arse and I die cursing... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] HARBINGER_OF_SKULLS [NECRO] Players 1,540 posts Report post #16 Posted July 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: When in a DD, they always even know which way and when I make my attempt to turn... Ka-BOOM! Don't turn. Just straightline away. Nobody anticipates that amount of stupidity audacity. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #17 Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: Sooo.. you really think you have to defend WG against a post like this? Wow... You're sure you're not a bot, programmed for such behaviour? ^^ you better watch it! the colonel sure does sound like a real colonel... no, not like Jessup, Hannibal Smith or Jack O'Neil, more like... ummm... better say no names, but picture a Col at the Inspector Generals' responsible nationwide for controlling the consumption of office supplies... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted July 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, II_UMIKAZE said: Don't turn. Just straightline away. Nobody anticipates that amount of stupidity audacity. In some earlier discussion it was even suggested you should turn against the enemy, not away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said: you better watch it! the colonel sure does sound like a real colonel... no, not like Jessup, Hannibal Smith or Jack O'Neil, more like... ummm... better say no names, but picture a Col at the Inspector Generals' responsible nationwide for controlling the consumption of office supplies... You wouldn't believe but there are real military officers who take their responsibilities very very seriously. I heard once about some major (almost colonel) who during a drill started counting paperclips.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-IAN-] IanH755 Players 2,100 posts 7,141 battles Report post #20 Posted July 1, 2020 I was baited by the thread title, I thought you were talking about the opposite "phenomenon" where the last salvo you YOU fire to kill a ship always seems to have a Citadel in it if you fire AP no matter where your shells hit, usually when the enemy has around 1k health left. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #21 Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said: You wouldn't believe but there are real military officers who take their responsibilities very very seriously. I heard once about some major (almost colonel) who during a drill started counting paperclips.... I do believe it !! Witnessed it myself. The worst are those who overdo it so much that one thinks it's an act... they even use forms of self-derision, double meanings and self-sarcasm one could take as hints that they play a comical role... you think it's funny... and then some while later, you realize they were dead serious about all the ridiculous things they said, and the self-derision are things they don't understand themselves but they picked up anyway from other people because they noticed that people smiled !!! I will always remember the NCO responsible for my boot camp... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #22 Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Uglesett said: Storm Weather Shanty Choir's version of that one is brilliant. And still not a patch on Melchett & George's version of Row row row your boat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #23 Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, IanH755 said: I was baited by the thread title, I thought you were talking about the opposite "phenomenon" where the last salvo you YOU fire to kill a ship always seems to have a Citadel in it if you fire AP no matter where your shells hit, usually when the enemy has around 1k health left. I know exactly what you mean. It's like "If you're not satisfied with our services you get a gift for free" - #bam!, citadel! I guess we need to create an extra thread for that..called "the other last salvo phenomenon" ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #24 Posted July 1, 2020 It’s the ones that come after about 10-15 seconds after you have been undetected. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knutorius Players 231 posts 4,974 battles Report post #25 Posted July 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, gopher31 said: It’s the ones that come after about 10-15 seconds after you have been undetected. Those are nice, too.. just had one today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
