[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #1 Posted June 27, 2020 Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CRUEL] Commander_Ericson Players 222 posts 12,144 battles Report post #2 Posted June 27, 2020 Well at least the no dd games will give certain proof to those that believe dds are a dead class and that no one is playing them because of radar through islands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #3 Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. Hey some of us play DD's every day, in fact today I played nothing other than DD's (trying to figure out which of the DD missions to go for in directive 4 (so far leaning towards the pasian/ijn one)) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #4 Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, lafeel said: Hey some of us play DD's every day, in fact today I played nothing other than DD's (trying to figure out which of the DD missions to go for in directive 4 (so far leaning towards the pasian/ijn one)) It's not about people not playing DDs. Cause next battle I had 4 DD one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thracen Players 525 posts 8,871 battles Report post #5 Posted June 28, 2020 I am getting more and more 0 dd games and I do believe it is down to there being less dds in the queue at higher tiers. Radar, CVs and a general increase in shell velocity has made life much more difficult for dds. This effect is amplified if you only have one or 2 high tier dds that are very power creeped and off meta. For example Khaba and shima. I'm happy to play round radar in my dd as long as I am not facing enough on one flank to be perma spotted, which is possible. However fighting high shell velocity ships with oldschool dds and cv perma spotting is just no fun, so why do it? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,650 battles Report post #6 Posted June 28, 2020 13 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. I saw a few of those when I was forced to play a cruiser because Dockyard directive 1 cannot be completed in DDs only ... 2 and 3 are fine with DDs only so far ... I think the rather insensitive way WG is trying to gouge money from players is causing this .... yes I get that class balance and variety and yadayada ... but DDs are the least played surface ship class (I don't include the floating airfields in this one). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-DGH-] xe_N_on [-DGH-] Players 525 posts 3,591 battles Report post #7 Posted June 28, 2020 I play mainly T8 DDs currently. And I have the impression that I get up-tiered a lot more than I get same or lower tiers. Sometimes I have games, where all DDs are T8 and all other ships are T10. The reason behind is IMHO, that T10 DDs are not very appealing. Currently, I play Lightning and I really don't know why I should play any other DD. It is quite perfect for it's tier. In T10 the maintanace cost are much higher. Since DD games are not very homogeneous (sometimes you die after 5 min before even do any damage because the enemy CV wants you sunk), it repels me from play in higher tiers. But it's very frustrating to play with a T8 DD mainly against T10 ships. I think, WG should change this and limit to +1 tier. Of course, T10 games would be mostly without DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perekotypole Players 511 posts 8,639 battles Report post #8 Posted June 28, 2020 Vor 15 Stunden, MacArthur92 sagte: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. I like variety... No DD or one DD/no CV situation is very rare. Much more often you have DD and he goes and suicides in first 5 min of the match... and then you don't have DD... In no-DD games BBs have to spot, that's all. Cruiser can't be a spotter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] GraySlayer Players 645 posts 5,471 battles Report post #9 Posted June 28, 2020 17 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. Playing DD's now above T8 is super hard and as a consequence you have to be super skilled to pull it off and even then it is no cake walk. It is no surprise that this is putting players off especially if they have the joy of those 4 radar ship and 1 Haku games. So I myself am not surprised to see a decline in DD population in the queue for battle and that this is being noticed as it has been noticed by me also. It was sort of obvious it was going to happen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #10 Posted June 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, GraySlayer said: Playing DD's now above T8 is super hard and as a consequence you have to be super skilled to pull it off and even then it is no cake walk. It is no surprise that this is putting players off especially if they have the joy of those 4 radar ship and 1 Haku games. So I myself am not surprised to see a decline in DD population in the queue for battle and that this is being noticed as it has been noticed by me also. It was sort of obvious it was going to happen. It's even on T6 now. Not about decline, I had 18 DDs waiting in queue and then such no DD battle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #11 Posted June 28, 2020 Vor 37 Minuten, MacArthur92 sagte: It's even on T6 now. Not about decline, I had 18 DDs waiting in queue and then such no DD battle... The obvious solution is to play an AA speced cruiser. As we all know you will not get a carrier but plenty DDs in your battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] GraySlayer Players 645 posts 5,471 battles Report post #12 Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said: It's even on T6 now. Not about decline, I had 18 DDs waiting in queue and then such no DD battle... I don't even know what those queue numbers mean. I often see 6 CV and enter the game with none so what does it mean even? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #13 Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Johnny_Moneto said: The obvious solution is to play an AA speced cruiser. As we all know you will not get a carrier but plenty DDs in your battle. I often get such no DD game in Bagration... 1 hour ago, GraySlayer said: I don't even know what those queue numbers mean. I often see 6 CV and enter the game with none so what does it mean even? Means there are in queue. Just the MM didn't take them into your battle (for whatever reason ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAILS] BruceRKF Players 1,077 posts 27,211 battles Report post #14 Posted June 28, 2020 I would love to get four DD games more often, I think it makes for more dynamic (or chaotic) gameplay, if you will. Many BBs will camp anyway, so having some DDs instead of only cruisers to go up against the flood of BBs is desirable. Also, I always find it a bit amusing, but also hypocritical when some people complain about four DDs when there are FIVE BBs nearly every game... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #15 Posted June 28, 2020 21 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. Blame WG for their inability to come up with a good, fair and working MM. Unless it's not inability but planned... for whatever reason people might come up with.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #16 Posted June 28, 2020 3 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: It's even on T6 now. Not about decline, I had 18 DDs waiting in queue and then such no DD battle... 18 Noobs click Battle then realise....FLAGS!!! 18 Exit battle....? ATM I find generally that the amount of DD's increase throughout the day though, highest numbers afternoon and eve. Low numbers in the morning. Just an observation. Alternatively its just poor/inconsistent class selection my match maker? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #17 Posted June 28, 2020 In addition, many DDs now play like scared puppies. Radar cruiser in game? Hide between the big ships. Planes approaching? Run for spawn. Pityfull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[H-M-S] huymog Players 44 posts 16,768 battles Report post #18 Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, Camperdown said: In addition, many DDs now play like scared puppies. Radar cruiser in game? Hide between the big ships. Planes approaching? Run for spawn. Pityfull Not pityfull but logical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #19 Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Camperdown said: In addition, many DDs now play like scared puppies. Radar cruiser in game? Hide between the big ships. Planes approaching? Run for spawn. Pityfull Depends on situation, cv rework changed overall DDs playstyle. In the past I saw a lot of them rush into caps with speed boost, now they go towards the cap but carefully. Also The French and Swedish DDs have no smoke so they have to play around them (especially the French). I'm not here to say if DDs are playing good or not. I just say that no DD games are boring AF and nobody wants to go forward at all. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,228 battles Report post #20 Posted June 28, 2020 It is weird that you can have a battle with 4 DDs per side and then the very next battle just 1 or none per side, it would be so much more convenient if they were more evenly distributed per battle. Especially given how much more cautious people are in games without DDs to spot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OTLWS] VanHelgen Players 45 posts 3,945 battles Report post #21 Posted June 29, 2020 I prefer games without dds. The ones on your team either hide at the back or just straight up die, and the ones on the enemy team are absolute wasps who know how to play a dd right. A mix of both is good imo.. The same way some players hate playing with cvs.. It is nice to have games with and without them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #22 Posted June 29, 2020 Vor 8 Stunden, MacArthur92 sagte: I often get such no DD game in Bagration... Your account is broken, call customer support. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #23 Posted June 29, 2020 9 hours ago, huymog said: Not pityfull but logical. I think it is a LtP issue. It is entirely possible to play DD moderately aggressively in the current meta. Most new players are not good enough yet (or never will be) and play excessively passively as a result. I am DD main in part not to be dependent on noob DDs. I am now playing cruisers more, and it is sometimes frustrating to take risks to support a DD and said DD is doing absolutely nothing and I find myself exposed to no gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padds01 Players 855 posts 7,546 battles Report post #24 Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 10:35 PM, MacArthur92 said: Is it so hard to make such things not happen? No DD battle is so awful and boring, then you get 4 DD one. i really like getting a no DD game think its a lot more fast paced and fun , dont have to play hunt down the fun police at the start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,194 battles Report post #25 Posted June 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, Padds01 said: i really like getting a no DD game think its a lot more fast paced and fun , dont have to play hunt down the fun police at the start What is fun bro? As a squishy cruiser having zero spotting that's not fun. And you as BB if you won't move up - then the battle is so boring especially if you got sniper style BBs like Champagne, Musashi or Amagi. They won't push. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
