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Like DAFQ?

 

I have been regrinding some lines lately for the RB and Fuso came up on the rooster...

 

I cant seem to hit anything, shells are all over the place and when I actually hit its basically overpen after overpen, OK I get it that she overpens from 8km but 15?

 

I dont remember her being this bad before...

 

Or maybe my standards just got stricter over the time?

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Mate I think you must have got yours from the same dodgy, knock-off dealership that I got mine from.

 

My ex clan leader used to swear by the Fuso with well over 1000 games in her but I could never get mine to work. There's only so much I can take of plodding through the game getting 1020 dmg per salvo.

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18 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Nothing, she is still the same shotgun she used to be.

As I said I dont seem to remember her being this iffy last time I was grinding her, then again last time I was grinding her she had the A hull and like 13km or so base range on it, didnt play her much in the meanwhile maybe I have just forgotten...

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1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Nothing, she is still the same shotgun she used to be.

This! Its crap dispersion that sometimes focuses for some lol devastating strikes. My most amazing shot in it involved a ranked battle where I watched the dispersion take shape of the enemy DD and one-shot it from 13km from full health with 10 overpens.

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Fuso is "accurate" because she fires a lot of shells, giving her a decent chance to hit something. Not because her accuracy parameters are particularly good. Has always been that way.

Or in other words, quantity has a quality of its own.

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2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

 

I cant seem to hit anything, shells are all over the place and when I actually hit its basically overpen after overpen, OK I get it that she overpens from 8km but 15?

 

WoWs 2020 summed up in one sentence.
Overpens are the new thing, you're doing it wrong if more than 25% of shots are penetrations.

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3 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Like DAFQ?

 

I have been regrinding some lines lately for the RB and Fuso came up on the rooster...

 

I cant seem to hit anything, shells are all over the place and when I actually hit its basically overpen after overpen, OK I get it that she overpens from 8km but 15?

 

I dont remember her being this bad before...

 

Or maybe my standards just got stricter over the time?

Her dispersion was always a bit wonky, sometimes more sometimes less. 

It’s been years since I played her, but I remember that one out of ten games was decent, the rest was tickling enemy ships with overpens. 

 

You could ask WG to buff her a bit but WG hasn’t shown any interest in buffing fantasy ships that never existed and is instead focusing on giving ‘real’ warships which have become Naval legends, like the RU navy, much needed love. :Smile_trollface:

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26 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Her dispersion was always a bit wonky, sometimes more sometimes less. 

It’s been years since I played her, but I remember that one out of ten games was decent, the rest was tickling enemy ships with overpens. 

 

You could ask WG to buff her a bit but WG hasn’t shown any interest in buffing fantasy ships that never existed and is instead focusing on giving ‘real’ warships which have become Naval legends, like the RU navy, much needed love. :Smile_trollface:

No way, buffing the fuso, even a little, would make it the most powerful t6 BB in game. The guns have bad dispersion butt are quite powerful.

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4 hours ago, Yedwy said:

I cant seem to hit anything, shells are all over the place and when I actually hit its basically overpen after overpen, OK I get it that she overpens from 8km but 15?

 

I dont remember her being this bad before...

 

Sorry mate, but nope!

 

I can make the Fuso work. Sure from time to time RNG trolls you but that shouldn`t affect your aiming that much altogether.

 

Did 230k damage in this beauty in scenarios recently (AP only).
If you would like to watch the replay, send me a PM.

 

A friend achieved almost 260k in it (about 258k to be more precise).

 

So you can make her work. All you need is practise.

 

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Got 97k average Damage on her when i regrinded the IJN BBs a 2 months back. Sounds like a layer 8 error to me   

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5 hours ago, Captain_82 said:

 

Sorry mate, but nope!

 

I can make the Fuso work. Sure from time to time RNG trolls you but that shouldn`t affect your aiming that much altogether.

 

Did 230k damage in this beauty in scenarios recently (AP only).
If you would like to watch the replay, send me a PM.

 

A friend achieved almost 260k in it (about 258k to be more precise).

 

So you can make her work. All you need is practise.

 

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I contend RNG *could be* different in scenarios than in randoms.

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19 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

I contend RNG *could be* different in scenarios than in randoms.

It's not.

And seems like you are back! Feeling better after taking a break? 

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16 minutes ago, _Warfarin_ said:

It's not.

And seems like you are back! Feeling better after taking a break? 

not really - I decided I want the Graf Spee!

and maybe I'll cough up 150 baht for the Odin too.

 

BTW, do you have proof for your claim that RNG in scenarios is the same as in randoms?

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36 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

not really - I decided I want the Graf Spee!

and maybe I'll cough up 150 baht for the Odin too.

 

BTW, do you have proof for your claim that RNG in scenarios is the same as in randoms?

No no no mate its YOU who claims it's not the same. 

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2 minutes ago, _Warfarin_ said:

No no no mate its YOU who claims it's not the same. 

re-read my post, I said *maybe* it's not the same RNG

 

you affirmed it is the same, as a certainty. proof please.

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1 hour ago, mcboernester said:

Got 97k average Damage on her when i regrinded the IJN BBs a 2 months back. Sounds like a layer 8 error to me   

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Maybe, I cant seem to break 80k in sub battles, well maybe I am just inept

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10 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

re-read my post, I said *maybe* it's not the same RNG

 

you affirmed it is the same, as a certainty. proof please.

The RNG might seem better in scenarios because bots don't evade as actively as players do in random battles making it easier for you to hit the bots and their citadel. 

 

That's maybe the one thing you should consider before asking people for proof. 

And even if I had access to such information I probably wouldn't be allowed to give it out to you. So you have to take my word for it I guess. 

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31 minutes ago, _Warfarin_ said:

That's maybe the one thing you should consider before asking people for proof.

lol, no, that's twisted logic.

I can always ask anyone to prove what they say.

So I take it you have no proof of what you claimed.

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Il y a 53 minutes, HassenderZerhacker a dit :

re-read my post, I said *maybe* it's not the same RNG

 

you affirmed it is the same, as a certainty. proof please.

General rule in discussion : the person making the  less likely claim has a higher burden of proof. Otherwise we will never get out of flat earthers or hollow earthers.

So, if you happen to have some evidence of RNG discrepancy, feel free to share.

 

However, I recall having read somewhere bots in scenarios have a higher chance of fire. Don't take my word on it.

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3 hours ago, Ronchabale said:

Higher amount of over pens due to cruiser armour rework

Use HE...

 

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Which is ofc bad for Fusos 356mm guns, but theoratically could explain less pens due to ricochets (no overmatch = no pen).

And in regards of the citadels, nothing has changed.

 

I think the problem is, that BBs never really cared where they had to shoot, they just point+clicked at Cruisers for CHA-CHING. Instead to learn something (like all classes have to) they switch to HE :Smile_facepalm:

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Dude your point is valid but honestly I am not your average BB main, being cruiser main I know the value of aim and where I have to aim its just shell dont do what they are supposed to...

 

For instance a perfectly led salvo just drops all around the target except an overpen or two and its same weather it a Leander I am aiming at or New Mexico, doesnt matter if its bot or human, next salvo 7 hits on a DD - same distance...

 

Utter RNG

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