[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #1 Posted June 23, 2020 Can someone explain to me what exactly happened here? Please notice the aiming point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #2 Posted June 23, 2020 I think your one shell went thru To citadel after hitting upper structure, gj. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #3 Posted June 23, 2020 RNGesus giveth, RNGesus taketh ... that's all I can say ... I watched Flambass' stream where the shells from one of his triple gun turrets when all cross-eyed, two shells went straight and the rightmost shell went to the next map on the LEFT. FLambass was like WTH ??? How is that possible ? So your experience is quite normal I would say .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #4 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said: I think your one shell went thru To citadel after hitting upper structure, gj. That's a shot from the last turret and 2 out of 3 shells caused a citadel by hitting well above deck, I mean what are the chances... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #5 Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: That's a shot from the last turret and 2 out of 3 shells caused a citadel by hitting well above deck, I mean what are the chances... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #6 Posted June 23, 2020 But HE from a Schorsch citadelling a Gneisenau? That shouldn't be possible no matter where you hit, or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #7 Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Kruzenstern said: But HE from a Schorsch citadelling a Gneisenau? That shouldn't be possible no matter where you hit, or not? He shoots AP then switches to HE as I see from the pics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #8 Posted June 23, 2020 Ah yes, didnt look close enough at the first pic... Still curious, but possible I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #9 Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Execute0rder66 said: He shoots AP then switches to HE as I see from the pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #10 Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said: Ah yes, didnt look close enough at the first pic... Still curious, but possible I guess... There was a WG explanation some time ago that it's possible to ricochet down the ship's funnel into citadel, but this was concerning long range AP spam, didn't think this was possible at point blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #11 Posted June 23, 2020 Somethings wrong with german BBs i guess... see this My explanation would be barbette penetration ricocheting downwards into the citadel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,816 battles Report post #12 Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, BlackYeti said: There was a WG explanation some time ago that it's possible to ricochet down the ship's funnel into citadel, but this was concerning long range AP spam, didn't think this was possible at point blank. maybe they should make the citadels out of funnels.......... it reminds me of the film Fury where wood on the side of the tank stops an 88mm AP shell....makes tanks out of wood? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #13 Posted June 24, 2020 12 hours ago, illy said: maybe they should make the citadels out of funnels.......... it reminds me of the film Fury where wood on the side of the tank stops an 88mm AP shell....makes tanks out of wood? Well all those OP Soviet tanks in WoT do have wooden logs on them 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #14 Posted June 24, 2020 13 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Somethings wrong with german BBs i guess... see this My explanation would be barbette penetration ricocheting downwards into the citadel. You won’t see this kind of problem on a glorious soviet battleship! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #15 Posted June 24, 2020 13 hours ago, illy said: maybe they should make the citadels out of funnels.......... it reminds me of the film Fury where wood on the side of the tank stops an 88mm AP shell....makes tanks out of wood? The 'Ronsons' also known as the 'Tommy Cooker' were festooned with bits of track, metal and yes even logs in the hope that they would deflect the dreaded 88mm shell... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #16 Posted June 24, 2020 17 hours ago, DFens_666 said: My explanation would be barbette penetration ricocheting downwards into the citadel. But that wouldn't work with the Shchors. Gneisenau has 350mm barbette + 95mm citadel deck armor and Shchors AP can only penetrate 289mm even at 2km range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #17 Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, _DemonGuard_ said: But that wouldn't work with the Shchors. Gneisenau has 350mm barbette + 95mm citadel deck armor and Shchors AP can only penetrate 289mm even at 2km range. Whats the turret armor (havent checked before)? I mean, its the only thing i can imagine which should work... then again, we never know what kinda bugs might exist^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #18 Posted June 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Whats the turret armor (havent checked before)? I mean, its the only thing i can imagine which should work... then again, we never know what kinda bugs might exist^^ It's 220-360mm, so the Shchors would still be unable to penetrate this plus the citadel deck. Only the sloped upper turret armor is thinner, but there is no way hitting there and bounce downwards. Maybe he was able to get a penetration on the aft end plating and then hit the citadel athwartship (26+200mm)? That still seems very unlikely, because even if he didn't bounce on the aft end plating, the citadel is so low in the water, i'm not sure if you can even hit it at that range with a Shchors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #19 Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, _DemonGuard_ said: It's 220-360mm, so the Shchors would still be unable to penetrate this plus the citadel deck. Only the sloped upper turret armor is thinner, but there is no way hitting there and bounce downwards. Maybe he was able to get a penetration on the aft end plating and then hit the citadel athwartship (26+200mm)? That still seems very unlikely, because even if he didn't bounce on the aft end plating, the citadel is so low in the water, i'm not sure if you can even hit it at that range with a Shchors. It is possible to citadel german BBs through Bow/aft at a certain angle and bypass the turtleback - have done so myself. But then i shoot at that place and not at the superstructure.. thats whats the weird thing here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #20 Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, BlackYeti said: Well all those OP Soviet tanks in WoT do have wooden logs on them petition to add masts to the side of every russian ship for balans reasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #21 Posted June 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: It is possible to citadel german BBs through Bow/aft at a certain angle and bypass the turtleback - have done so myself. But then i shoot at that place and not at the superstructure.. thats whats the weird thing here. The hits you see are not necessarily what the server calculated. The ships and/or shells might be at a different position to what your client is telling you, so i wouldn't trust the visuals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #22 Posted June 24, 2020 23 hours ago, BlackYeti said: Can someone explain to me what exactly happened here? Please notice the aiming point... Captain was taking a leak, shells bounced off his solid steel balls and deflected via the drain into the citadel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] BlackYeti Players 995 posts 14,827 battles Report post #23 Posted June 25, 2020 18 hours ago, _DemonGuard_ said: It's 220-360mm, so the Shchors would still be unable to penetrate this plus the citadel deck. Only the sloped upper turret armor is thinner, but there is no way hitting there and bounce downwards. Maybe he was able to get a penetration on the aft end plating and then hit the citadel athwartship (26+200mm)? That still seems very unlikely, because even if he didn't bounce on the aft end plating, the citadel is so low in the water, i'm not sure if you can even hit it at that range with a Shchors. That could happen theoretically but i was aiming at mid superstructure and saw no shells going low. The only explanation is that those last two shells hit some strange point on the superstructure that made them ricochet almost 90' downwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #24 Posted June 25, 2020 A lot of strange $hit in this game. One time in the Sprint Ranked tier 7 I was playing Duke of York and hit some other cruiser (maybe Yorck) on my max range distance with HE salvo which completely missed him exept 1 single granade (out of 10) and it detonated him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #25 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BlackYeti said: That could happen theoretically but i was aiming at mid superstructure and saw no shells going low. The only explanation is that those last two shells hit some strange point on the superstructure that made them ricochet almost 90' downwards. Ricochet from the turret bottom maybe? The rather strange question ofc, why it doesnt show as a ricochet? Ive had occasionally ricochets, which dealt damage to the target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
