[GEUS] Purnylla [GEUS] Players 1,105 posts 25,180 battles Report post #1 Posted June 17, 2020 I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Probably a cruiser or destroyer. I've been considering the Bayard or Le Terrible, but there may be other ships out there I may be overlooking. It's hard to decide based upon armory pages and wiki pages alone. Any recommendations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #2 Posted June 17, 2020 Mainz. Fits the bill to a T when it comes to your requirements. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] mantiscore Players 546 posts 14,567 battles Report post #3 Posted June 17, 2020 Massacrechussets 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #4 Posted June 17, 2020 Kutuzov... Seriously tho, *my* pick would be Bayard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SH33P] tyco Beta Tester 113 posts 7,849 battles Report post #5 Posted June 17, 2020 Friesland? 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #6 Posted June 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Probably a cruiser or destroyer. I've been considering the Bayard or Le Terrible, but there may be other ships out there I may be overlooking. It's hard to decide based upon armory pages and wiki pages alone. Any recommendations? Not gonna ask why you would want to spend so much money on a tier 8 ship if you will play it in coop only/mostly but if you're looking for something like Atlanta, Bayard is a much better ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #7 Posted June 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Probably a cruiser or destroyer. I've been considering the Bayard or Le Terrible, but there may be other ships out there I may be overlooking. It's hard to decide based upon armory pages and wiki pages alone. Any recommendations? Technically, Smolensk and Colbert "outdakka" the Atlanta, but one is unavailable and other can't be bought for money. Well, one can buy bazzilion of doubloons, convert Free Exp, research and then reset multiple lines to get research points required, but that might be beyond whats considered "investing some money". Other than that, from T8 specifically, Mainz fits the bill of high volume of fire ship with substantial AP potential as well very consistent HE due to 38mm pen. Other solid alternatives would be Kidd and Cossack destroyers, both excellent artillery oriented cap contesters. Latter uptiers extremely well due to absolutely balanced 5.5km concealment, heaviest broadside salvo and dpm bested only by Akizuki. Anti air doesn't exist, but 7 (with SI) quickly reloading smokes are more than able when it comes to dealing with carriers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #8 Posted June 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Probably a cruiser or destroyer. I've been considering the Bayard or Le Terrible, but there may be other ships out there I may be overlooking. It's hard to decide based upon armory pages and wiki pages alone. Any recommendations? Flamu seems to like the Bayard, but as Lafeel say, Mainz too would also be a contender, i don't have either so cannot really comment on what they are like. BB wise, Massachusetts or Tirpitz for their good secondaries, DD wise, USS Kidd, Loyang or the the HFS HAREKAZE if it were ever to come in the shop again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9 Posted June 17, 2020 Bayard, maybe mince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,820 battles Report post #10 Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Panocek said: Colbert can't be bought for money Actually it can, you just need millions of exp accumulated on your elite ships to convert in into free exp, do some resets and voila! Sure it's expensive and you need to have at least 5 tech tree T10 ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otowi Beta Tester 297 posts Report post #11 Posted June 17, 2020 For cruisers : Mainz would be a good choice, as would Bayard. For BB's : Massachusetts and Triptiz for sure. As secondary specs ships go, they are really good. Vanguard is also a good choice, but she is a ship that requires angleing, or you will get blapped when broadside on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #12 Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, koliber_1984 said: Actually it can, you just need millions of exp accumulated on your elite ships to convert in into free exp, do some resets and voila! Sure it's expensive and you need to have at least 5 tech tree T10 ships. Imagine reading sentences till the end 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,244 battles Report post #13 Posted June 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, Bayard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] Purnylla [GEUS] Players 1,105 posts 25,180 battles Report post #14 Posted June 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, lafeel said: Mainz. Looks interesting. Too bad it's another German though. Already have the Scharnhorst and soon the Graf Spee and Odin. 38 minutes ago, mantiscore said: Massacrechussets Was considering the Massachusetts, but considering I plan to get the Odin during the event, I doubt buying another secondary-guns BB would be the best idea. Already got a Scharnhorst in port too. 25 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: Kutuzov... Can't find the Kutuzov in the Premium shop or Armory. 17 minutes ago, tyco said: Friesland? Currently saving up my FreeXP to get the Friesland. 'only' 400k FXP left to collect. 17 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said: DD wise, USS Kidd, Loyang or the the HFS HAREKAZE if it were ever to come in the shop again. Why aren't you recommending the Le Terrible, I wonder? I expected the French DD to be good gunboats. 18 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Bayard, Seems to be either this or the Mainz. At least the Bayard isn't German. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #15 Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Purnylla said: Looks interesting. Too bad it's another German though. Already have the Scharnhorst and soon the Graf Spee and Odin. Then Bayard, the only reason I suggested Mainz before her is that Bayard is considerably more fragile, and requires mastering the main battery reload booster. 3 minutes ago, Purnylla said: Why aren't you recommending the Le Terrible, I wonder? I expected the French DD to be good gunboats. The problem with Le Terrible is that she's very high skill floor. Also, a carrier can destroy her if he can hit her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAILS] BruceRKF Players 1,077 posts 27,211 battles Report post #16 Posted June 17, 2020 Bayard is certainly a good choice if you want a lot of dakka and don't want another German ship right now. Massachusetts and Tirpitz do the dakka with their secondaries and are a lot of fun that way. You could also take a look at Kidd or Le Terrible for DDs. Maybe Irian is worth a look as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #17 Posted June 17, 2020 Kutuzov was a good ship removed from the game Irian is a lesser version of it, and the Le terrible does not have smoke, does have some fast speed though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #18 Posted June 17, 2020 Just now, Purnylla said: Looks interesting. Too bad it's another German though. Already have the Scharnhorst and soon the Graf Spee and Odin. Was considering the Massachusetts, but considering I plan to get the Odin during the event, I doubt buying another secondary-guns BB would be the best idea. Already got a Scharnhorst in port too. Can't find the Kutuzov in the Premium shop or Armory. Currently saving up my FreeXP to get the Friesland. 'only' 400k FXP left to collect. Why aren't you recommending the Le Terrible, I wonder? I expected the French DD to be good gunboats. Seems to be either this or the Mainz. At least the Bayard isn't German. Massa is far better than odin, has a decent heal better overmatch and also more hp. It doesn't have torps, but they are usually situational. Even for co-op plus i think massa has more accurate secondaries. Both for co-op are fine, but i wouldnt recommended suicide rushing with her at all really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #19 Posted June 17, 2020 I would choose Mainz for its better pens d fire starting ability combined with scary AP dpm when you get broadsides. You could get Ochakov for something in between a destroyer and cruiser. Its a good ship but has real weaknesses also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #20 Posted June 17, 2020 Best tier VIII premium I have is WIchita, but doesn't really fit your bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #21 Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Probably a cruiser or destroyer. I've been considering the Bayard or Le Terrible, but there may be other ships out there I may be overlooking. It's hard to decide based upon armory pages and wiki pages alone. Any recommendations? Nothing on T8 is like Atlanta, but whats wrong with Atlanta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #22 Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Purnylla said: I want something with a high rate of fire, something like the Atlanta (although I guess nothing will be as epic as Atlanta). Preferably something that isn't extremely squishy, doesn't rely on stealth too much, and can also be effective at short and medium ranges. Cossack. Great concealment, British smoke (six charges), speed boost, hydro, eight guns with better range than Atlanta, 10k range cruiser torps on a fast reload. Vulnerable to CVs, but if you're playing in co-op, who cares about CVs? Mainz and Bayard are good Tier VIII Cruisers (and remember there will be new coupons for the Armory soon, so you can get 25% off those by waiting), Ochakov looks interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #23 Posted June 17, 2020 Cossack, or *maybe* Orkan, for DDs. The latter lacks smoke, but it does get a heal (and radar).... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jss78 Players 1,292 posts 12,866 battles Report post #24 Posted June 17, 2020 Le Terrible is good fun in coop. Incredible speed, and you can play ultra-aggressive against the bots while not worrying about your entire team reporting you. Massachusetts is an incredibly fun brawler BB. Also good and fun to play in Randoms. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,670 battles Report post #25 Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Purnylla said: I'm looking to invest some money in a fun tier 8 ship. I'll probably use it most in coop. For fun in coop, you must have yolotorping ships. So ships like Tirpitz/Kii or Atago/Prinz Eugen would be best. None of them is very squishy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
