[NMA] mantiscore Players 546 posts 14,563 battles Report post #1 Posted June 15, 2020 -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #2 Posted June 15, 2020 Don't worry. Soon subs will be released, and all DD players can move to that class instead. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,535 battles Report post #3 Posted June 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, mantiscore said: Spotting planes with radar? Пройецт Дестроыер 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INTRO] Hanse77SWE Players 1,518 posts 28,995 battles Report post #4 Posted June 15, 2020 The days of the "Lone DD" are long gone. It used to be "I go off on my own and the rest of the team will just have to adapt to me." Nowadays a DD have to work in unison with his team, work closer to the team and let the team help him. "The future is now, old man." 7 5 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 2,062 posts 18,464 battles Report post #5 Posted June 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? Perfect, DD players need challenges or else we get bored. 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted June 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? Maschinegun cruisers? Are there ones armed with dozens of M2 or MG 42? The rest is pretty old... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[U69] U69_2020 [U69] Players 357 posts Report post #7 Posted June 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, dasCKD said: Don't worry. Soon subs will be released, and all DD players can move to that class instead. But they would miss all the fun, then... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FNF-L] Latouche_Treville Players 1,395 posts 12,229 battles Report post #8 Posted June 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Saltface said: Perfect, DD players need challenges or else we get bored. 23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,378 battles Report post #9 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? Hydro - Not an Issue Radar -Not an issue Machine gun cruisers - Not an issue CVs ability to spot them - annoying Rockets - annoying Italian bs SAP - annoying So, 50% of that list is an annoyance, 50% is more than workable. Yes the CV DD interaction is one sided. But frankly I've given up caring about arguing for change. So just get on with it. Only option left unless you decide to not touch DD's again. 11 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #10 Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? Whatever it takes to dumb down the game to brain-dead zombie level for like CV and BB players 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] B051LjKo Players 593 posts 26,762 battles Report post #11 Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? Simple solution, Whenever a cruiser fires the radar, A) it gets instantly detected B) radar has a +30% bloom, so if youre a dd, and the cruiser activates the radar, it can see the enemy within 12 km radious, but any dd within 15 km can detect the cruiser without being detected (japanese actualy had these in ww2) C) radar should not see through islands As it is now, radar is by far the best gimmick outhere, with no drawback... That should not be the case... 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #12 Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, B051LjKo said: Simple solution, Whenever a cruiser fires the radar, A) it gets instantly detected B) radar has a +30% bloom, so if youre a dd, and the cruiser activates the radar, it can see the enemy within 12 km radious, but any dd within 15 km can detect the cruiser without being detected (japanese actualy had these in ww2) C) radar should not see through islands As it is now, radar is by far the best gimmick outhere, with no drawback... That should not be the case... Unfortunately WG said that they tested radar not going through islands but dismissed it due to being 'to complex' for the players to understand... 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] B051LjKo Players 593 posts 26,762 battles Report post #13 Posted June 15, 2020 Imagine how complexed would be for players to understand radar bloom... On the other hand, having a billion of ships in game, all with different armor values does not seem to worry them. With nevsky, petropavlovsk and german cvs comming, i can see that the life of a dd will be hell in the following months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #14 Posted June 15, 2020 You forgot Stealth radar-upcoming soviet heavy cruisers Soon-Italian BB with SAP-capable of one shooting DDs just like the old times. An upcoming ship will be added to this list soon as any destroyer would hesitate to shot it unless it is low hp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] B051LjKo Players 593 posts 26,762 battles Report post #15 Posted June 15, 2020 There is so many things wg is ignoring... Like, you have a ship with 250 000 hp engine, great, that should mean you have a huge machinery space and a large citadel as a drawback . Implemented in game? Nope Tiny superstructure vs huge superstructure? As it is easy to farm superstructure, those ships should have more hp as a bonus for ergonomy and crew comfort. Implemented in game, nope... And so on, and so on, and so on.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FWS-] Ocrooch [-FWS-] Beta Tester 119 posts 18,940 battles Report post #16 Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said: Nowadays a DD have to work in unison with his team, work closer to the team and let the team help him. Yes, nice theory. In reality however with stationary BBs 20km from enemy line and cruisers close to them, a DD does not have much to do does it? Helping team... joke of the year. In my 10k battles or so I have not seen anything like it. If I am lucky, I get two, three players with some brains trying to do something useful. Rest is just flocking as far as possible and doing pew pew. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INTRO] Hanse77SWE Players 1,518 posts 28,995 battles Report post #17 Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Ocrooch said: Yes, nice theory. In reality however with stationary BBs 20km from enemy line and cruisers close to them, a DD does not have much to do does it? Helping team... joke of the year. In my 10k battles or so I have not seen anything like it. If I am lucky, I get two, three players with some brains trying to do something useful. Rest is just flocking as far as possible and doing pew pew. That's your choise. YOLO of and asume the team follows OR stay back and adapt to what your team are doing, no matter what. Also, we are talking about how DDs should play in the current meta. How BBs should play is another topic. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #18 Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, mantiscore said: -Hydro -Radar -CVs ability to spot them -Rockets -Italian bs SAP -Machinegun cruisers I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar? I like the last one, oh and you forgot subs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #19 Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: Пройецт Дестроыер Stalin approves then, RU CV's inbound 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-DGH-] xe_N_on [-DGH-] Players 525 posts 3,591 battles Report post #20 Posted June 15, 2020 Why just limit rockets to planes? I suggest an nation wide destroyer split, with guided missile destroyers (DDG) introduced at Tier 8: Who needs e.g. an Gearing, if you can have an Arleigh Burke class? Totally historically correct. PS: we need to increase the map size, so we can really play out the missile range of up to 900 km. Would this count as long range HE-spam? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #21 Posted June 15, 2020 Just remove lolcarriers and it's fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #22 Posted June 15, 2020 6 hours ago, mantiscore said: CVs ability to spot them I think spotting was one of the few things that was nerfed in the cv rework. the planes are spotted before the planes spots anything 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #23 Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, B051LjKo said: Imagine how complexed would be for players to understand radar bloom... On the other hand, having a billion of ships in game, all with different armor values does not seem to worry them. With nevsky, petropavlovsk and german cvs comming, i can see that the life of a dd will be hell in the following months. Why? Because of RU radar? It will be useless. Much bigger threat it's smolensk, the others will be business as usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSVE] iFax [NSVE] Players 535 posts 20,286 battles Report post #24 Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Unfortunately WG said that they tested radar not going through islands but dismissed it due to being 'to complex' for the players to understand... Male cow waste product..! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] B051LjKo Players 593 posts 26,762 battles Report post #25 Posted June 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Butterdoll said: Why? Because of RU radar? It will be useless. Much bigger threat it's smolensk, the others will be business as usual Because both ships will be highly popular snd will flood the matchmaker with 14+ radars per game 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
