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-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

 

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Don't worry. Soon subs will be released, and all DD players can move to that class instead. :cap_rambo:

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9 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

Spotting planes with radar?

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The days of the "Lone DD" are long gone. It used to be "I go off on my own and the rest of the team will just have to adapt to me." Nowadays a DD have to work in unison with his team, work closer to the team and let the team help him.

 

"The future is now, old man."

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17 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

Perfect, DD players need challenges or else we get bored.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

Maschinegun cruisers? Are there ones armed with dozens of M2 or MG 42?

 

The rest is pretty old...

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31 minutes ago, dasCKD said:

Don't worry. Soon subs will be released, and all DD players can move to that class instead. :cap_rambo:

But they would miss all the fun, then... :Smile_popcorn:

 

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1 hour ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

 

Hydro - Not an Issue

Radar  -Not an issue

Machine gun cruisers - Not an issue

 

CVs ability to spot them - annoying

Rockets - annoying

Italian bs SAP - annoying

 

So, 50% of that list is an annoyance, 50% is more than workable. Yes the CV DD interaction is one sided. But frankly I've given up caring about arguing for change. So just get on with it. Only option left unless you decide to not touch DD's again. 

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1 hour ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

 

Whatever it takes to dumb down the game to brain-dead zombie level for like CV and BB players :cap_haloween:

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2 hours ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

 

Simple solution,

 

 Whenever a cruiser fires the radar, 

 

A) it gets instantly detected

B) radar has a +30% bloom, so if youre a dd, and the cruiser activates the radar, it can see the enemy within 12 km radious, but any dd within 15 km can detect the cruiser without being detected (japanese actualy had these in ww2)

C) radar should not see through islands

 

As it is now, radar is by far the best gimmick outhere, with no drawback... That should not be the case...

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1 minute ago, B051LjKo said:

Simple solution,

 

 Whenever a cruiser fires the radar, 

 

A) it gets instantly detected

B) radar has a +30% bloom, so if youre a dd, and the cruiser activates the radar, it can see the enemy within 12 km radious, but any dd within 15 km can detect the cruiser without being detected (japanese actualy had these in ww2)

C) radar should not see through islands

 

As it is now, radar is by far the best gimmick outhere, with no drawback... That should not be the case...

Unfortunately WG said that they tested radar not going through islands but dismissed it due to being 'to complex' for the players to understand...

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Imagine how complexed would be for players to understand radar bloom...

 

On the other hand, having a billion of ships in game, all with different armor values does not seem to worry them.

 

With nevsky, petropavlovsk and german cvs comming, i can see that the life of a dd will be hell in  the following months.

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You forgot Stealth radar-upcoming soviet heavy cruisers

Soon-Italian BB with SAP-capable of one shooting DDs just like the old times.

An upcoming ship will be added to this list soon as any destroyer would hesitate to shot it unless it is low hp.

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There is so many things wg is ignoring...

 

Like, you have a ship with 250 000 hp engine, great, that should mean you have a huge machinery space and a large citadel as a drawback

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 Implemented in game? Nope

 

Tiny superstructure vs huge superstructure? As it is easy to farm superstructure, those ships should have more hp as a bonus for ergonomy and crew comfort. Implemented in game, nope...

 

And so on, and so on, and so on....

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2 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said:

Nowadays a DD have to work in unison with his team, work closer to the team and let the team help him.

 

Yes, nice theory. In reality however with stationary BBs 20km from enemy line and cruisers close to them, a DD does not have much to do does it? 

Helping team... joke of the year. In my 10k battles or so I have not seen anything like it. If I am lucky, I get two, three players with some brains trying to do something useful. Rest is just flocking as far as possible and doing pew pew.

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4 hours ago, Ocrooch said:

Yes, nice theory. In reality however with stationary BBs 20km from enemy line and cruisers close to them, a DD does not have much to do does it? 

Helping team... joke of the year. In my 10k battles or so I have not seen anything like it. If I am lucky, I get two, three players with some brains trying to do something useful. Rest is just flocking as far as possible and doing pew pew.

That's your choise. YOLO of and asume the team follows OR stay back and adapt to what your team are doing, no matter what.

 

Also, we are talking about how DDs should play in the current meta. How BBs should play is another topic.

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3 hours ago, mantiscore said:

-Hydro

-Radar

-CVs ability to spot them

-Rockets

-Italian bs SAP

-Machinegun cruisers

I wonder what will be the next WeeGee? Spotting planes with radar?

 

I like the last one, oh and you forgot subs:Smile_veryhappy:

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Why just limit rockets to planes?

 

I suggest an nation wide destroyer split, with guided missile destroyers (DDG) introduced at Tier 8:

 

 

Who needs e.g. an Gearing, if you can have an Arleigh Burke class?

Totally historically correct.

 

PS: we need to increase the map size, so we can really play out the missile range of up to 900 km. Would this count as long range HE-spam?

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6 hours ago, mantiscore said:

CVs ability to spot them

I think spotting was one of the few things that was nerfed in the cv rework.

the planes are spotted before the planes spots anything

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3 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

Imagine how complexed would be for players to understand radar bloom...

 

On the other hand, having a billion of ships in game, all with different armor values does not seem to worry them.

 

With nevsky, petropavlovsk and german cvs comming, i can see that the life of a dd will be hell in  the following months.

Why? Because of RU radar?

It will be useless.

Much bigger threat it's smolensk, the others will be business as usual

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3 hours ago, Chaos_Umbra said:

Unfortunately WG said that they tested radar not going through islands but dismissed it due to being 'to complex' for the players to understand...

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12 minutes ago, Butterdoll said:

Why? Because of RU radar?

It will be useless.

Much bigger threat it's smolensk, the others will be business as usual

Because both ships will be highly popular snd will flood the matchmaker with 14+ radars per game

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