[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,514 battles Report post #1 Posted June 14, 2020 https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/05/world-of-warships-st-slava-soviet-tier-x.html 25cm bow, even T8 BBs will laugh at her. Few guys will grind it if in Tech tree, not to mention she will become premium, who will buy it? Do you guys want to sit in such a trash that will get overmatch citadel consistantly by all BB (even T8 ones), and be deleted in the first 2 min of each game? 2 11 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #2 Posted June 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, luokailk said: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/05/world-of-warships-st-slava-soviet-tier-x.html 25cm bow, even T8 BBs will laugh at her. Few guys will grind it if in Tech tree, not to mention she will become premium, who will buy it? Do you guys want to sit in such a trash that will get overmatch citadel consistantly by all BB (even T8 ones), and be deleted in the first 2 min of each game? Have you played it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,514 battles Report post #3 Posted June 14, 2020 no and probably will not regarding the current state. Just want to share info to you guys:) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BIF] K82J Players 827 posts 10,200 battles Report post #4 Posted June 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, luokailk said: 25cm You made a typo there :) 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #5 Posted June 14, 2020 "Russian BBs are OP. Balanced by Stalin. WG Bias!" "Russian BB is trash. Who would play this ship? Wth WG?" So if it's strong, it's crap. If it's not strong it's crap. 9 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] B051LjKo Players 593 posts 26,752 battles Report post #6 Posted June 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, luokailk said: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/05/world-of-warships-st-slava-soviet-tier-x.html 25cm bow, even T8 BBs will laugh at her. Few guys will grind it if in Tech tree, not to mention she will become premium, who will buy it? Do you guys want to sit in such a trash that will get overmatch citadel consistantly by all BB (even T8 ones), and be deleted in the first 2 min of each game? Armor is irrelevant, it will nuke everithing from 20 km anyway. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #7 Posted June 14, 2020 Did you check the gun specs? Its practical a Stalingrad with 406mm guns, without the bow armour it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,514 battles Report post #8 Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: Did you check the gun specs? Its practical a Stalingrad with 406mm guns, without the bow armour it seems. Stanlingrad has 50 cm deck, 20+s reload. This Slava eats every shell from all angles, with 33s reload, no hydro, no radar, less repair party. Well I think it's a worse version of Stalin, in short, this BB is weaker than a cruiser. We don't need more Russian OP ships, but we don't want to see more trash either. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WALLY] Vinyl_ScratchPlays Players 68 posts 7,262 battles Report post #9 Posted June 14, 2020 I think some a missing the point, yes it has railguns, yes stalin has them as well.. But these ones are at 13,450 Alpha Dmg while stalin is at 9,200 And then add on the 24.7 km range, you can jsut sit in the back and railgun everyone.. armour at that point is not needed as any smart player would slow down or use their wsad hacks to dodge. Slava is ment to be the fire at range ship while Kremlin is the get close up ship. But still, she is still in testing so this all could change 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #10 Posted June 14, 2020 Managed to citadel one a few times driven by someone in miss georgia Stayed away a lot of times doe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riggerby Beta Tester 306 posts 3,108 battles Report post #11 Posted June 14, 2020 If you want armour play Kremlin. If you want gun performance play Slava. Crying about both is stupid. If they gave Slava Kremlin's armour whilst maintaining its unique best in class gun perfromance it would be the most overpowered ship in the game. There is literally no reason at all to play something like Montana or Repub over a Kremlin right now, Why would they make this powercreep situation even worse by Adding an even more powerful Kremlin?. Slava still is decently mobile, Slava still sits ridiuclously low in the water with a great armour belt, Slava still has great concealment, Slava still gets OP russian DCP, Slava still gets access to OP Kuznetsov, Slava still had more armour than the likes of Thunderer and i dont see anyone calling Thunderer underpowered. She is absolutely fine. She would be the most dumb broken ship in the game if she never took this desperately needed armour nerf. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #12 Posted June 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, luokailk said: Stanlingrad has 50 cm deck, 20+s reload. This Slava eats every shell from all angles, with 33s reload, no hydro, no radar, less repair party. Well I think it's a worse version of Stalin, in short, this BB is weaker than a cruiser. We don't need more Russian OP ships, but we don't want to see more trash either. Read again, slowly: 228m dispersion at 24,7km distance..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #13 Posted June 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, luokailk said: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/05/world-of-warships-st-slava-soviet-tier-x.html 25cm bow, even T8 BBs will laugh at her. Few guys will grind it if in Tech tree, not to mention she will become premium, who will buy it? Do you guys want to sit in such a trash that will get overmatch citadel consistantly by all BB (even T8 ones), and be deleted in the first 2 min of each game? Dude... To me it seems she has the same bow armor sheme as Stalingrad and thats including icebraker, now when we discuss Stalin we always hear how she is squishy bow on right? Oh wait... Another thing, she has the same disperison as Stalingrad ony its on 16" guns and even longer range... This thing is a sniping monster, I have no issues taking that out anytime Edit: On second look she still has 32mm DECK on both the bow and stern and 100mm strips so even stronger then Stalin 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #14 Posted June 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, FukushuNL said: So if it's strong, it's crap. If it's not strong it's crap. You must be new here, welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #15 Posted June 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, luokailk said: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/05/world-of-warships-st-slava-soviet-tier-x.html 25cm bow, even T8 BBs will laugh at her. Few guys will grind it if in Tech tree, not to mention she will become premium, who will buy it? Do you guys want to sit in such a trash that will get overmatch citadel consistantly by all BB (even T8 ones), and be deleted in the first 2 min of each game? If this is true: good, very good. Sadly, it's not true. This PoS is broken, like many other PoS ships of the fantasy navy. And complaining now that it's "crap", won't get her any buffs. People should complain that this broken crap makes it into the game in the first place. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #16 Posted June 14, 2020 At long range theses are the most accurate battleship guns in the game with the best penetration. A Slava should stay at long ranges (15+km) and find a good crossfire position and will get citadel after citadel at broadside battleships from long ranges (541mm open at 20km). It will be fairly weak at close ranges and that is how they are trying to balance it out. Looks like the kind of ship where good players will do crazy things with it while poor players die in the first five minutes! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A7] Captaindanz Players 402 posts 27,265 battles Report post #17 Posted June 14, 2020 Should be played like the French/British bbs, i bet you it would do more consistent damage from range than any other bb in the game from 15+ KM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted June 14, 2020 IDK disperison doesnt look that much different to Yamato with LU by extension she is broken as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #19 Posted June 14, 2020 Is this WGs answer to BBs sitting at the map border doing nothing? Giving ridiculous range so they are even more encouraged to camp as far back as possible? They should rather cut all BB range in half to make for more interesting battles ... More range is definitely the wrong direction... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,438 battles Report post #20 Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yedwy said: IDK disperison doesnt look that much different to Yamato with LU by extension she is broken as well That's because the UI doesn;t show the whole story. Yamato has a vertical dispersion of 131m at 19km. The Slava has a vertical dispersion of 64m at the same range, less than half! Vertical dispersion is also the reason why soviet battleships seem so accurate even the Kremlin has 90m vertical dispersion at 19km. The cynic in me believes that Wargaming tied the soviet battleship accuracy to improved vertical dispersion as its not a widely reported stat. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goldshock Beta Tester 15 posts 1,572 battles Report post #21 Posted June 14, 2020 I'll say it once, 25 cm = 250 mm. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #22 Posted June 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, gopher31 said: That's because the UI doesn;t show the whole story. Yamato has a vertical dispersion of 131m at 19km. The Slava has a vertical dispersion of 64m at the same range, less than half! Vertical dispersion is also the reason why soviet battleships seem so accurate even the Kremlin has 90m vertical dispersion at 19km. The cynic in me believes that Wargaming tied the soviet battleship accuracy to improved vertical dispersion as its not a widely reported stat. Yep. It’s historically accurate tho, as shooting the fisher fleet at Dogger Bank in the R-J war and engaging more fish trawlers in glorious battles of life and death during WWI and WWII gave them lots of training and incredible accuracy, which is represented by this hidden little stat ingame. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #23 Posted June 14, 2020 @Miragetank90 you can come and greet miss slava now, shes already made quite the impression me thinks. *loud angreh noises* oh no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,527 battles Report post #24 Posted June 14, 2020 @luokailk Bad bote indeed. Needs buffs. Unplayable camrad. Note the AL Nevsky so no this isnt the "old" slava. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #25 Posted June 14, 2020 6 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: @luokailk Bad bote indeed. Needs buffs. Unplayable camrad. Note the AL Nevsky so no this isnt the "old" slava. I struggle to get 220k in my bb's nevermind bloody 300k+. Guess i need to work on my positioning more. Also dat shell grouping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
