The 1,000,000 XP Question - Agir, Azuma, Alaska?

[invicta2012]

Or Friesland. 

 

Anyway. In an epic moment of Operator Error caused by trying to get my cat off the laptop keyboard , I have converted a disagreeably large amount of doubloons into Free XP. 

 

This can't be restored by WG Support, so I guess I had better buy something with that 1,000,000 XP I now have.  Super Cruisers! seems to be the order of the day. So which is best? 

 

I am told that Alaska is an excellent ship. That Azuma is not as good as Yoshino. And that Agir is very new.  But what do you think?

[principat121]

Alaska is by far the best option you can pick. 

[_Teob_]

1 minute ago, principat121 said:

Alaska is by far the best option you can pick. 

 

I also agree that the Alaska is by far the best out of the bunch. And I dare say the easiest to play and the most rewarding.

[lafeel]

Have to agree with the concensus that the Alaska is the best of the three, but..That does not mean that the other two are bad, neccessarily.

[Ocrooch]

All depends on your playstyle.

Alaska can do everything. She is powerful and can win games. But to unleash her power, you need some skill. You need to be good at positioning and aiming. 

Azuma (and Yoshino) is far more relaxed. She sits behind and pewpews he and fire. Just don't get too relaxed, she gets deleted easily.

Ägir seems to be more like a brawler. I have seen ppl getting spectacular results getting her up close. Those torps are deadly and if positioned right, she is tough. But again, she needs skill.

 

For me, raking is as follows: Alaska, Ägir. I would not bother with Azuma, not my playstyle.

[firerider202]

Objectively Alaska is the best. At the end it depends on your preferences and playstile.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Alaska is probably the best. It’s also the one that is most likely to disappear sooner as it’s been in game for a while.

 

Go get it!!

[invicta2012]

18 minutes ago, _Teob_ said:

I also agree that the Alaska is by far the best out of the bunch. And I dare say the easiest to play and the most rewarding.

This is what I hear.

 

However I am always concerned by US cruisers and their lack of torpedoes (which is why the upcoming Anchorage is interesting, if ahistoric).

 

Agir's armament - Scharnhorst guns, Hipper torps - is familar and comfortable (and perfectly capable of doing nasty things to Tier IX and X ships) but I wonder whether the hull is up to snuff? 

[lafeel]

10 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

This is what I hear.

 

However I am always concerned by US cruisers and their lack of torpedoes (which is why the upcoming Anchorage is interesting, if ahistoric).

 

Agir's armament - Scharnhorst guns, Hipper torps - is familar and comfortable (and perfectly capable of doing nasty things to Tier IX and X ships) but I wonder whether the hull is up to snuff? 

Only one game, but she certainly took a lot of punishment here and survived (albeit barely)

[WascallyWabbit]

Alaska...by far, Azuma is a glass canon and the Agir has trash guns and WG have nerfed the secondaries by 20% and even more controversial is the fact that they have manipulated the turtle back so it doesn't really work and have totally removed the nose plate protecting the citadel from the front.....it cant nose in at all and gets nose citadelled easily...Russian BIAS is here it's real and at this point not even open to a discussion as to whether it does exist, I think the way they treat German ships actually borders on out and out racism. I blame Flame he showed a game with the Agir being both fun and effective, two words that simply can't be used when introducing a new German ships. Finally the turrets are extremely fragile and break over and over. So as pretty as the Agir is just avoid it, save your fxp and get Alaska.

 

Getting sick and tired of these BS Russian ships with every toy in the shop and other lines with glaring weakness. I wish they would keep their Russian bias on the Russian servers, simply keep the EU/NA servers somewhat balanced and aimed at players from those regions, they try to appease the dwindling Russian player base by introducing these OP ships on all servers. 

 

 

[_Teob_]

11 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

This is what I hear.

 

However I am always concerned by US cruisers and their lack of torpedoes (which is why the upcoming Anchorage is interesting, if ahistoric).

 

Agir's armament - Scharnhorst guns, Hipper torps - is familar and comfortable (and perfectly capable of doing nasty things to Tier IX and X ships) but I wonder whether the hull is up to snuff? 

 

Well I guess that torpedoes are missing but you do have radar instead. I would trade torpedoes for radar any day of the week.

I am not trying to convince you here because if you do prefer ze jermans then yeah, Agir is probably more your thing.

 

In fact, I dare say that the choice actually is between Alaska and Agir. Azuma doesn't bring anything to the table. I have it and it mostly rusts in port.

[Kartoffelmos]

Is there even a contest?

Azuma is extremely inflexible due to the armour scheme while Ægir's (that's how you spell it, plebs!!) guns seem to be hit and miss, especially considering the relatively low HE damage. Pushing into 6 km range with a cruiser with low concealment isn't exactly commonplace either, since CV and/or general spotting will mean that most people will see what is happening before you can pull off the ambush.

 

As such, the safest and best choice is the Alaska. Friesland is perhaps a valid option compared to her, but the lack of torpedoes make her a bit of a liability if all the enemy destroyers have been dealt with already. Then again, the game tends to be won at that stage anyway...

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

Agir is probably better at 12km and closer due to torps, secondaries and armour that bounces all battleship AP  when angled. and all HE that hits its side. 
when the angling fails though the Alaska is less likely to receive a citadel bow-on.

 

That said, I still recommend Alaska in case they remove it.

[WascallyWabbit]

4 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

Ægir's (that's how you spell it, plebs!!)

I have a real keyboard, in English, can't be doing with all that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. So it's the Agir :)

 

I do however agree that Alaska will prob be the next ship retired.

[Jvd2000]

From the current available T9 supercruisers Alaska has the best papers. You have utility for your team (radar) and the lack of torps are just a motivation to ignore any rush to get close into torp range. The guns and better angles make Alaska a sturdy and extremely punishing ship. And a rather tanky one too. You need to take into account the low shell speed.
 

Azuma is a total different beast. One of the few JPN cruisers without torps, you do not need to be close ( even with the average range of 10 km) And with both her armor and good accurate long range HE artillery you don’t need and want to.

 

Agir is IMO different but unproven. Alaska is the safe bet. Azuma the poor mans Yoshino. There is always the risk that Alaska goes the way of the Krohnstadt the other, no longer available, T9  supercruiser in the game. So you might find it better to pick Alaska now...
 

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

I think Azuma should be written off. She’s accurate but just an HE spammer. 
Yoshino is better but again, there are better ships to be had for coal.

[Kartoffelmos]

7 minutes ago, WascallyWabbit said:

I have a real keyboard, in English, can't be doing with all that ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. So it's the Agir :)

[7obruk]

23 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

Ægir's (that's how you spell it, plebs!!)

Actually just Ägir.. 

 

And to on topic, i would say Alaska too

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, 7obruk said:

Actually just Ägir.. 

 

And to on topic, i would say Alaska too

Actually Ægir is the old Norse version, and seeing as it's named after a god from Norse Mythology..

[WascallyWabbit]

1 minute ago, lafeel said:

Actually Ægir is the old Norse version, and seeing as it's named after a god from Norse Mythology..

Ahhh that explains it...most Vikings couldn't read or write for toffee, so explains the 2 half letters joined together :)

[Butterdoll]

Guys, guys...

 

I'm on my way to get Alaska too.

 

 

With this much consensus Alaska could be nerfed.

 

 

to the OP

get Aegir ( wink)

 

[Commander_Ericson]

I've got the Alaska, Azuma, Friesland and just got the Siegfried (Similar to Agir). For the record all got with freexp earnt from playing. I dont use it for jumping up silver lines.

 

Alaska is probably your best bet. She is a good ship and fun to play. HE generally at anything at range and AP is american style at medium to short ranges, so it hits hard and hard improved pen angles. Good for training American BB captains.

 

Azuma has very accurate guns, but she has a lot of very light armour, so eats a lot of damage and citadels from enemy bb's. It can't carry like the Alaska can and its AP is pretty weak. I've struggled to pen bb belts at 10km with it.

 

I like the Friesland. It's got a slightly different play style to other dd's, due to the lack of torps. Required a specific skilled captain to get the most out of it, which isn't really of much use to the mainline....other than maybe the top tier euro dd's. Worth taking into account as you really need a minimum 13 point captain to get the normal dd build and BFT to get your dpm up.

 

Siegfried/Agir. Seems good and strong so far. Guns on the Siegfried seem to be nice and accurate. Early days, but I'm wondering how long it will be until I get blapped through the nose into the citadel. No ice breaker and a big nose.

[Captaindanz]

Why would you convert doubloons into free xp? anyways i haven't tried the agir and i would stay away from the azuma, Alaska is your safest bet IMO.

[Zemeritt]

Choosing between thse three is easy: Alaska by far.

She has easily the most impact on the match.

[mcboernester]

Alaska, nothing to add here.