[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #1 Posted June 10, 2020 Hello, I have bought my first premium ship, tier 8 japanese BB Kii and the special 7k camouflage and while i don't like to play with it much it has been a good source of credits, i chose this ship because the japanese BB line will be my next to research and i am training the japanese captain for it. I have already researched the US and Russian BB line to tier 8 and both captains are now level 16 so my idea was to buy a premium French, British or German BB with similar credit earning capabilities. Edit: is it worth to buy premium captains? If so which ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #2 Posted June 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: I have already researched the US and Russian BB line to tier 8 and both captains are now level 16 so my idea was to buy a premium French, British or German BB with similar credit earning capabilities. Jean Bart comes to mind for the french. Definatly a fun BB aswell. British premium BB is a little but more tricky I suppose. You could go for Warspite I guess? Duke of York used to be a BB, that I loved a lot. But these days its a chore to play, because you face T9 all the time, so wouldnt recommend. Nelson is somewhat on the same list. If you like to play Narai operation: Hood. She is a killer there and if you care for something to grind credits - then you should start playing Narai anyway. German premium BBs: Scharnhorst - but she shares the T7 problem and then the small guns can be a problem. Tirpitz is the obvious choice although I personally wouldnt recommend. Other will tell you different I guess. Can be a fun brawler with the torps ofc, if you like that sort of gameplay. 16 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: Edit: is it worth to buy premium captains? If so which ones? Are you talking about the coal ones or dubloons or which one? Some of the unique commanders are definatly worth it. John Doe for US is a must, Jack Dunkirk for the british aswell is good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #3 Posted June 10, 2020 If you have cash to spare yes, obviously one of the special captains in a line you like and will play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FF-] elblancogringo Players 1,207 posts 7,342 battles Report post #4 Posted June 10, 2020 Jean Bart is one of the best T9 BBs, and very fun to play as well. It is a very good credit maker for me. I recommend this one of you wish to purchase a French premium BB. Edit: is JB actually still available for sale in the armory? I might be confused and cannot check atm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #5 Posted June 10, 2020 Simplest way to look at this is: t9 premiums. Too expensive? t8 premiums. Too expensive? t7 premiums... and so on. Going below t5 isn’t worth it tho. Some ships get added, some removed. Like the JB people are mentioned - sure, it’s good, but what does it give when you can’t [reasonably] get that one anymore? Check the premium shop & armoury to see what’s availble currently, and keep that simple “tier guide” in mind. As far as Koboyashi Kii goes - can’t get a much better moneymaker than that, it’s one of the highest earning ships in the game 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #6 Posted June 10, 2020 Il y a 2 minutes, elblancogringo a dit : Jean Bart is one of the best T9 BBs, and very fun to play as well. It is a very good credit maker for me. I recommend this one of you wish to purchase a French premium BB. Edit: is JB actually still available for sale? I might be confused and cannot check atm. Tier 9 i have only available to buy Georgia, with doubloons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] TeaAndTorps Players 820 posts 2,680 battles Report post #7 Posted June 10, 2020 French and US special captains (Honoré and Doe) are definitely worthwhile for BBs. I really enjoy Dunkerque. It's quite agile for a BB and has fast-turning turrets, which are features that make me happy. I don't think the credit-earning potential is as great at T6, but it's better than for tech-tree peers. And as I say, it's a fun ship and I enjoy the mid-tier meta. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #8 Posted June 10, 2020 Il y a 2 minutes, wilkatis_LV a dit : Simplest way to look at this is: t9 premiums. Too expensive? t8 premiums. Too expensive? t7 premiums... and so on. Going below t5 isn’t worth it tho. Some ships get added, some removed. Like the JB people are mentioned - sure, it’s good, but what does it give when you can’t [reasonably] get that one anymore? Check the premium shop & armoury to see what’s availble currently, and keep that simple “tier guide” in mind. As far as Koboyashi Kii goes - can’t get a much better moneymaker than that, it’s one of the highest earning ships in the game Really? wow i guess i made a good choice then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9 Posted June 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: Hello, I have bought my first premium ship, tier 8 japanese BB Kii and the special 7k camouflage and while i don't like to play with it much it has been a good source of credits, i chose this ship because the japanese BB line will be my next to research and i am training the japanese captain for it. I have already researched the US and Russian BB line to tier 8 and both captains are now level 16 so my idea was to buy a premium French, British or German BB with similar credit earning capabilities. Edit: is it worth to buy premium captains? If so which ones? There isn't much reason to do so, as the moment you get captain to level 19, you start collecting Elite Exp, which then can be used to level up other captains. And for credit earning, very few ships have "improved" camouflages to spend on, thus tier 9 will be better pick in terms of making money. Jean Bart is gone, so no croissants for you. Brits don't have T9 prem, Germans are about to get two T9 large cruisers/lidl battleships, one for Free Exp and other for Research Points. One, if not both will probably also appear in the store as well. From captains from the armory, doubloon ones aren't really worth it unless you absolutely positively scream for that improved Expert Marksman or other skill. From Coal captains, particularly Kuznetzov is worth, albeit prohibitively expensive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #10 Posted June 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: a premium French, British or German BB with similar credit earning capabilities. All things being equal, nothing available at the moment matches Kii (and Roma) for earning potential when they have the Kobayashi cammos. The next best thing is a T9 premium that you can do well with: the French one has been removed from sale; the British don't have one; the KM ones might be worth a look when they're released, but until they're actually in the game in a final, final form, we don't know how good they'll really be. Although regular T8 premiums can't touch Kobayashi/T9s for earnings, they can still be quite worthwhile - the dockyard event starting next patch (that gives the option of an inexpensive KM T8 at the end) *might* be worth a look if the ship sounds promising to you, but wait for some real reviews first - the initial impressions seem to be along the lines of "it's okay, but no great"; might be worth a look if you don't have Tirpitz already. 43 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: is it worth to buy premium captains? If so which ones? My feeling is that the 1,500 doubloons/35K coal ones are worth having (once you've mopped up the freebies from Ops etc.) - an instant 10 pointer is often very helpful once you're into the +2 MM bracket especially. The ones with enhanced abilities (the Does, Dunkirks et al.) are especially worthwhile. Bear in mind that - as far as I know - they all come trained for the T1 silver ship of their respective nation, so you'll have to retrain them for use in any silver ship, with the usual associated costs. The 175K 'extra magic' captains are - IMO - not worth it for most players, unless you've run out of stuff to buy with coal. They're well worth making an effort to get via campaigns etc. (like the current Polish one) but I generally wouldn't suggest emptying your coal store for one. YMMV of course. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BIF] K82J Players 827 posts 10,204 battles Report post #11 Posted June 10, 2020 I have this Reddit link saved about best credit earners, hope it can help you Premium ship income 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: Hello, I have bought my first premium ship, tier 8 japanese BB Kii and the special 7k camouflage and while i don't like to play with it much it has been a good source of credits, i chose this ship because the japanese BB line will be my next to research and i am training the japanese captain for it. I have already researched the US and Russian BB line to tier 8 and both captains are now level 16 so my idea was to buy a premium French, British or German BB with similar credit earning capabilities. Edit: is it worth to buy premium captains? If so which ones? If you want something like kobayashi maru camo - no, only Roma has one and she is italan and not on your list... If you are looking for a T9 premium as in similar income you have a choice of - well nothing for those nations, best wait for Pommern, or what ever they changed that Ludendorf name to If you want just to earn cash and be in a BB-like enviroment - Aegir (T9 supercruiser) shoud hit the shop in a few days 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #13 Posted June 10, 2020 Thank you guys for the replies, so why these special camos are only available for the Kii and Roma? Before buying the Kii i was thinking buying the Roma because it's the only BB in the Italian line and my ultimate goal is to unlock all the BBs, at first i wasn't even thinking to spend money on premiums but got a 30% coupon to use in 3 days and after asking in the forum people advised to spend it on doubloons so i purchased 30k doubloons and bought the Kii discounted to about 10k + the 7k camo and have left about 13k, the Roma with coupon will be about 10k and how much is the special camo? 7k? Is it worth to buy the Roma if i don't have the doubloons to buy the special skin? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #14 Posted June 10, 2020 For the Germans I would say Sharnhorst that you can also use in Narai. A few months ago it would be a no-brainer, but WG significantly nerfed Narai incomes, due to some wiseguys bragging on the forums. Also Sharnhorst gun caliber / dispersion is questionable, especially if you are facing T9 ships. Another German premium that comes in mind is Tirpitz. Self explinatory, but the credits income is nothing special. For britts I would say either go for the Thunderer (coal) of alternatively you could just buy permacamo for RN CL Fiji and farm credits / fxp in Narai. Other britt premium BBs are stinkers... just my humble opinion. As for the USN ones, I would say Georgia is the best earner, as T9 prem ship economy is the most awarding. Basically premium account + credit flags + credit camos is the way to go. WG removed Missouri, Musashi and Jean Bart... so your options are somewhat limited. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #15 Posted June 10, 2020 Kuznetzov is most certainly worth it as a BB captain. Yes, it's a hefty price. But well worth it if you ask me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #16 Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, 159Hunter said: Kuznetzov is most certainly worth it as a BB captain. Yes, it's a hefty price. But well worth it if you ask me I agree. I am 70k short. I was planing to get Georgia or Salem next, but will spend coal on Kuznetzov. Will use him on Kremlin and move Zeminsky to Petropavlovsk / Moskva eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #17 Posted June 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: Is it worth to buy the Roma if i don't have the doubloons to buy the special skin? You get a perma camo with every premium ship you buy. You can check the bonuses youself... but there are only few permacamos that actually have credit bonus (Anshan for example). Most give XP bonuses only. EDIT: Or does Anshan give fxp bonus.. idk atm... Premium ships are great for captain trainings + they give some XP bonuses (that calculate to commander xp and free xp). Like I said... best recipe is to stack up. Prem acc + Prem ship + daily win bonus + camo + signals. Do it in divisions, so you increase your chance for winning :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #18 Posted June 10, 2020 I have only 2k coal i spent it all on flags, at the rate of 1.2k/day it would take about 5 months to have enough to buy the Russian admiral, that's a lot of time. In the Reddit chart posted above i believe if not the Roma any tier 8 premium is the next best option, i do not want to buy the Georgia because i already have a good USN captain, i don't think i will have enough doubloons to buy the Roma + special camo so it has to be a tier 8 German, British or French premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bortasqu Beta Tester 939 posts 14,845 battles Report post #19 Posted June 10, 2020 Why are you all recommending tier 8+ ships to someone that only has done 268 battles? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #20 Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: I have only 2k coal i spent it all on flags, at the rate of 1.2k/day it would take about 5 months to have enough to buy the Russian admiral, that's a lot of time. In the Reddit chart posted above i believe if not the Roma any tier 8 premium is the next best option, i do not want to buy the Georgia because i already have a good USN captain, i don't think i will have enough doubloons to buy the Roma + special camo so it has to be a tier 8 German, British or French premium. Dont spend coal on anything else than ships and captains - if you need one. Always pick "more resources" containers and complete the easy daily missions. Should gather coal fast... like 2-3k per day in only few games. From what you say, I would get the Tirpitz... or wait ... you will advance even without premium ship just fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #21 Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Sturmtiger_304 said: Why are you all recommending tier 8+ ships to someone that only has done 268 battles? Because his performance obviously shows, that he knows what he is doing. So no problem here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #22 Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sturmtiger_304 said: Why are you all recommending tier 8+ ships to someone that only has done 268 battles? Sure why not. He came to forum and he will learn. Remember when you started? Resources are sparse. Thats why I also suggested him to use Narai... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZE-PT] xZExPISCOx Players 72 posts 7,465 battles Report post #23 Posted June 10, 2020 Il y a 23 minutes, nambr9 a dit : You get a perma camo with every premium ship you buy. You can check the bonuses youself... but there are only few permacamos that actually have credit bonus (Anshan for example). Most give XP bonuses only. EDIT: Or does Anshan give fxp bonus.. idk atm... Premium ships are great for captain trainings + they give some XP bonuses (that calculate to commander xp and free xp). Like I said... best recipe is to stack up. Prem acc + Prem ship + daily win bonus + camo + signals. Do it in divisions, so you increase your chance for winning :) I bought the japanese with the intent of training the captain for the IJN BB line but then i saw that special camo and thought all premiums had a similar option which apparently is not the case and only the Kii and Roma have this camo, the Roma would be purely for credit farming as there's not an Italian BB line to research. I am most of the time out of flags, usually i pick the more signals and camo container but i don't get enough to have signals for several games. I tried to apply for a clan but was refused and have only played solo, i don't want to play a division only to communicate by chat, if i am to join a division i would like to do it properly with voice comms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GEUS] TeaAndTorps Players 820 posts 2,680 battles Report post #24 Posted June 10, 2020 1 minute ago, xJ03xR081Nx said: there's not an Italian BB line to research. Tbf there will be, if you stick around for long enough 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #25 Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, TeaAndTorps said: I really enjoy Dunkerque. It's quite agile for a BB and has fast-turning turrets, which are features that make me happy. I don't think the credit-earning potential is as great at T6, but it's better than for tech-tree peers. And as I say, it's a fun ship and I enjoy the mid-tier meta. Dunkerque is also lots of fun and a good source of experience for the French BB line, if you choose to play those later on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
