Pink Colour for Nautical Rules of the Road

[Aethervoxx]

Pink colouring is awarded for collisions and team damaging via weaponry.

I believe team damaging with weapons is adjudicated properly.

However,  collision damage is not. There are 'nautical rules of the road' and in most cases it is one offending Captain who is to blame.

 Hence, WoWS Devs should  programme pink status damage determinations to reflect these 'Nautical Rules of the Road'.

 Place the blame for these collisions where it belongs (not to both indiscriminately).

 

[floribe2000]

There are no nautical rules in WoWs and most players don't even know these rules.

But usually you won't get pink for ramming. If you manage to get pink for ramming, it was most likely your mistake, it takes a lot of ramming damage to get pink.

[Aethervoxx]

4 minutes ago, floribe2000 said:

There are no nautical rules in WoWs

There should be is what I am saying. Programmed  'nautical rules of the road' (which do exist).

 

5 minutes ago, floribe2000 said:

most players don't even know these rules.

So make a tutorial (s) about them. This is supposed to be a nautical game, so learn some 'nautical rules' (is what I'm suggesting).

[ColonelPete]

20 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

There should be is what I am saying. Programmed  'nautical rules of the road' (which do exist).

People in the game do not know them.

And nautical rules are hard to program, because they are not precise. Captains are allowed by the rules to ignore the rules if following the rules endanger the ship or other people. That is why captains of ships on collision course need to communicate with each other and still accidents happen, because the rules are not precise.

[invicta2012]

People in the real world don't know them:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Curacoa_(D41)#Collision

 

 

 

[Scipiom]

correct. and loads of people crash their cars every day too. However there are rules of the road which SHOULD be known, just as there are general rules governing sea traffic. Which- even if we learn them in a very minor way in the proces of playing the game- might actually be useful in real life one day. And knowledge will definetly do us no harm.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Scipiom said:

correct. and loads of people crash their cars every day too. However there are rules of the road which SHOULD be known, just as there are general rules governing sea traffic. Which- even if we learn them in a very minor way in the proces of playing the game- might actually be useful in real life one day. And knowledge will definetly do us no harm.

Look at this playerbase! They are already overtaxed with learning the basics. And you want to make it even more complicated?

 

Just evade the ships. Do not insist on "your" right of way. Simple solution!

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 1 Stunde, Aethervoxx sagte:

However,  collision damage is not. There are 'nautical rules of the road' and in most cases it is one offending Captain who is to blame.

 Hence, WoWS Devs should  programme pink status damage determinations to reflect these 'Nautical Rules of the Road'.

1. Rules of the Road are not in force in combat situations. These rules are only for peacetime.

2. If a team mate collides into you, take a deep breath, have a beer or a smoke and go on with life.

[Jethro_Grey]

3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Pink colouring is awarded for collisions and team damaging via weaponry.

I believe team damaging with weapons is adjudicated properly.

However,  collision damage is not. There are 'nautical rules of the road' and in most cases it is one offending Captain who is to blame.

 Hence, WoWS Devs should  programme pink status damage determinations to reflect these 'Nautical Rules of the Road'.

 Place the blame for these collisions where it belongs (not to both indiscriminately).

 

No need for nautical rules. Just leave the zoom view now and then and look around.

 

[HystericalAccuracy]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

This is supposed to be a nautical game, so learn some 'nautical rules'

well, while playing in divisions i used to say "i go north" or "torps on starboard" - and got laughed at by everyone "because no one speaks like that".

Trying to explain that this is naval language (and Wows is a naval game) didn´t help so.... i started saying "right, left, there, pingping".

Am i with you on this request? Yes.

Do i expect these people to learn basic rules? No.

[That_Other_Nid]

The current team kill and chat ban rules are very liberal. I once accidentally bumped another ship and they turned pink because I sank, but I had 16 hit points at the time. Now you can grind a couple hundred points or accidentally torpedo someone and it does not count. Likewise I've never gotten a chat ban in 15,000 games and all i ever do is call idiot BB players names. 

[HaachamaShipping]

If you get pink just for driving into people, there's more to that than just "nautical rules of the road."

[lafeel]

3 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

If you get pink just for driving into people, there's more to that than just "nautical rules of the road."

This, oh so very much this. I've even hit a friendly with a torpedo (and immediately apologized, was by accident) and didn't turn pink from it.

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Especially new people hardly get the hang of the game (some never do).

There are tons of tutorial out there that most people never will watch.

 

Adding another "rule" would not help in any way .... the game is already over-complicated even if its just an arcade.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

10 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

 

 

So make a tutorial (s) about them. This is supposed to be a nautical game, so learn some 'nautical rules' (is what I'm suggesting).

Learning the house rules of casinos seems more appropriate 

[Cambera_1]

The rule of International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions at Sea (COLREGs) is extremely clear when it comes to the blame for every collision. Both Captains are to blame. Both have a duty to avoid the collision, and as @ColonelPete implies both have a duty to take whatever action necessary to avoid the collision, even if the the rules state that certain vessels have to 'give way', the other vessel does not have 'right of way' instead she is the 'stand on vessel', which defines what her initial actions will be but doesn't remove any blame if an accident occurs.

 

This all said, it can definitely be argued that the current implementation of the game's collision blame mechanics very accurately model the COLREGs. 

No change required.

 

(Yes I have internationally valid qualifications covering this, I suspect like many other players in game. I also used to teach the basics of COLREGs.)

[Lieut_Gruber]

I don't get why people get so upset by collisions. It takes a few 100 damage, and you lose some speed.

[Yedwy]

@OP Most people here dont know what port and starboard is let alone more then that, also if you ever drove a car through a city you are likely to have noticed many people on foot or bike dont have first clue about land traffic rules either although they should have learned at least the basics in the elementary school

[Unknown_Lifeform]

 

Maybe make this required reading for all players?

[MrWastee]

14 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

There should be is what I am saying. Programmed  'nautical rules of the road' (which do exist).

 

while to me it wouldn't makes sense whatsoever, how could they programm such in ?! just out of curiousity... traffic lights and signs ?!

14 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

 

So make a tutorial (s) about them. [...]

tutorials....

 

not with this company mate, not with this one....

 

on a serious note: it's an nautical ARCADE GAME.... ur suggestion sounds like traffic signs within a pinball game, aKa a bit too much maybe?

[Sir_Grzegorz]

Lets add trafic lights and ask tank players in city to obey them. 

 

As much sense as rules of sea trafic during naval combat in arcade shooter.

[Latouche_Treville]

You forgot the fine for the offenders

[Smoketoi]

After a career of 25yrs at sea I can contribute that even there are rules collisions are still happening. (I had a good living from them). 
My experience over these years is that navy’s across this globe arent been manned with very experienced mariners but mostly with soldiers, this shows in the great amount of accidents happening with navy vessels. So let those rules for what they are.

[HystericalAccuracy]

2 hours ago, MrWastee said:

traffic lights and signs ?!

Wargaming tried

but the avg players don´t even get that

 

[MrWastee]

18 minutes ago, VIadoCro said:

Wargaming tried

but the avg players don´t even get that

 

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