Done with WOW

[Dukewerth1]

Hi community,

I know I'm not known ^^ but I want to tell you why I stop this game for sure now. 

The first thing was the CV rework. Before, the AA meant something. When you destroyed planes, you destroyed them for good. They just couldn't get them if they were out. Now, they can and I feel if a CV wants you dead, u'll die. Impossible to stay alive. That's the only class who doesn't have any counter anymore. 

After that, the heavy cruisers. Since when an heavy cruiser is more powerfull than a battleship??? and more tanky with a good maneuvrability. I'm a BB player (get GK and montana, love rushing) and with my GK, I can't destroy an heavy cruiser (bad dispersion while they get a good one ect).

In the third thing, the HE issue. Now, when you are a BB, you are burned to death. And people wonder why BB snip more and more?? Simple because if you push and go at range, you'll get HE ships which will destroy you easely, even with fire prevention ect .... 

The forth thing concerns the russian bias and their ships .... + the absence of balance in the game + low skilled gameplay. seriusly, kremlin, petro ect are just too op ... unbalanced and there is no balance for the MM. Very often, I see one team with 3-4 radars while the other team gets 1 for example. And I can add the fact is going easier and easier in the way there are so much more and more "noobs" at t10 (BBs broadside, DD doesn't know how to dodge torps ect) but also more "stupid" (without any strategy: all the team going same side, doesn't know how to watch a little map ect). 

Now the subs. I have tryed them and it's just awefull .... !! Completely unbalanced and impossible to play. Are you really sure that at t10 a sub will rush close to a DD or a cruiser??? ofc not. So it'll be impossible to kill them .... and I know that WG won't do anything to balance the sub. 

 

I enjoyed the game a lot few years ago. When the CV gameplay was different when there wasn't russian ships, when german ships were fun ect. But WG  seems to destroy their own games. So I'm done, and WELCOME BACK NAVYFIELD!!

 

PS: sry for my english ^^

[ColonelPete]

9 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I'm a BB player (get GK and montana, love rushing) and with my GK,...

There is your problem.

[Dukewerth1]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

There is your problem.

Because BB camping is just stupid. Like a shimakaze using his guns full range, it's dam stupid and non sense. If u don't tank with a Battleship, u are useless

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Because BB camping is just stupid. Like a shimakaze using his guns full range, it's dam stupid and non sense. If u don't tank with a Battleship, u are useless

There is no need to camp...

 

I suggest to play other classes, to learn their limitations better and to experience how strong BB are.

[Gudgeon]

I understand your feelings fully. There is a lack of balance in the game that did not used to exist in the heyday back in 2016-17-18. There were unbalanced ships back in the day, but I'm afraid the main balance problems now are more fundamental and concern actual game mechanics and a class, than sink the OP Kami/Guillo/Gremmy/Belfast and swing the battle towards your team. That was the classic period of wows and many hours of fun were had, win or lose. I have scaled back over the last year and a half, but just drop in now and again to test the water, so to speak. If I ever uninstalled, I would not re-install, so that is the main reason I have kept the game installed, just in case I have an incentive to play more often. As time goes on, I cannot see a renaissance in this game.

[Wulf_Ace]

33 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Hi community,

 

Hi.

Goodbye.

[Dukewerth1]

16 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

There is no need to camp...

 

I suggest to play other classes, to learn their limitations better and to experience how strong BB are.

I play DD and cruisers too (I used to play CV before rework sometimes). And staying next to an island is camping for me ^^ 

[Wulf_Ace]

2 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I play DD and cruisers too (I used to play CV before rework sometimes). And staying next to an island is camping for me ^^ 

So you would like old CVs, no subs so nothing new in game, that cruisers dont have HE (their only weapon against BB), no new ships like heavy cruiser, basically that the game always stays the same. Nice.

[Dukewerth1]

10 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

So you would like old CVs, no subs so nothing new in game, that cruisers dont have HE (their only weapon against BB), no new ships like heavy cruiser, basically that the game always stays the same. Nice.

oh no, I like new content. when there is a balance into it. For example, the 2 different classes for the US cruisers, I like that. But adding content for "adding content " without any balance, nope. It's like making evolution for evolution without any regards on what you are doing. If you add something new, you have to think : will it destroy the current model? What will happen in the futur? what will we do after that? And this is what I regret with WG: they don't thing about the futur on the game when they add new content. I get the feeling it's just to satisfay people 

[SV_Kompresor]

3 hours ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I feel if a CV wants you dead, u'll die.

And

3 hours ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I'm a BB player

In the same post? Something isn't right.....You do know that for the most part, CVs can't kill battleships on their own right? Not unless the BB is a potato. If they don't get support from other ships they get deplaned before the BB dies. Realistically, haku is the only one that can get close to killing the same tier BB on its own with AP bombers, but even then, the player has to be good.

 

3 hours ago, Dukewerth1 said:

The forth thing concerns the russian bias and their ships .... + the absence of balance in the game + low skilled gameplay. seriusly, kremlin, petro ect are just too op

Okay I just have to say it...you're an *EDIT* for thinking that russian bias is: Soviet ships are OP...no....The only russian bias in this game is the massive number of soviet ships being added before other more noteworthy navies.

 

 

[Wulf_Ace]

9 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

oh no, I like new content. when there is a balance into it. For example, the 2 different classes for the US cruisers, I like that. But adding content for "adding content " without any balance, nope. It's like making evolution for evolution without any regards on what you are doing. If you add something new, you have to think : will it destroy the current model? What will happen in the futur? what will we do after that? And this is what I regret with WG: they don't thing about the futur on the game when they add new content. I get the feeling it's just to satisfay people 

Ok dude you seem a guy that has enough battles to know what wargaming is and how they work, they dont care what players think, they just want money, so by now or get use to it or go play something else, that is my advice. Beacouse nothing will change what we (players) want to change. We scream WE WANT ITALIAN BBS, what WG gives? Russian cruisers, at least wg makes me laugh sometimes.. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

I was quickly done with WoW too, as I never figured out how to leave the starting area.

 

HE is a much bigger issue than CV's IMHO (others will be quick to disagree...). Make sure your BB is not at point, the DD's in this game are notoriously bad at team play, but try to rely on their passive screening at least. In other words, always try to take the time to see to it there are friendly ships between you and the enemy.

 

I take it you want to lead, but only push when you can deliver.

[Dukewerth1]

3 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

Ok dude you seem a guy that has enough battles to know what wargaming is and how they work, they dont care what players think, they just want money, so by now or get use to it or go play something else, that is my advice. Beacouse nothing will change what we (players) want to change. We scream WE WANT ITALIAN BBS, what WG gives? Russian cruisers, at least wg makes me laugh sometimes.. 

ok heu ... that's what i'm doing u know, that's my point ^^ 

[Dukewerth1]

2 hours ago, domen3 said:

 

In the same post? Something isn't right.....You do know that for the most part, CVs can't kill battleships on their own right? Not unless the BB is a potato. If they don't get support from other ships they get deplaned before the BB dies. Realistically, haku is the only one that can get close to killing the same tier BB on its own with AP bombers, but even then, the player has to be good.

 

Okay I just have to say it...you're an *EDIT* for thinking that russian bias is: Soviet ships are OP...no....The only russian bias in this game is the massive number of soviet ships being added before other more noteworthy navies.

 

 

lol did u play with GK ? or montana? i have never said it was the CV who would kill u by it's own. And I'm sorry to tell u that but support from others ships? Really? while the majority of the the team doesn't play strategy ect ... u don't receive any support. And even that, CV can do dmg on u ... a lot!

 

Thx for saying I'm an idiot, lot of respect, appreciated. Don't tell me stalingrad isn't OP. Don't tell me petro isn't OK. This ships can cit BBS while others BBs can't at the same distance because these cruisers get better dispersion. Even the Sinop is dam [edited]OP for his tier ... Ofc if you give your broadside to ennemies, they'll trash. But if u just angle a minimum, u are just impossible to kill. But thx to u, I see WG will never die 

[SV_Kompresor]

11 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

lol did u play with GK ? or montana? i have never said it was the CV who would kill u by it's own. And I'm sorry to tell u that but support from others ships? Really? while the majority of the the team doesn't play strategy ect ... u don't receive any support. And even that, CV can do dmg on u ... a lot

Any ship can damage you a lot, but CV's cannot kill you on their own. The only ships they're OP against are DDs. (and stalingrads)

 

11 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Thx for saying I'm an idiot, lot of respect, appreciated

I say that to everyone that says russian bias means that soviet ships are OP. Don't take it to heart.

 

11 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Don't tell me stalingrad isn't OP.

Lol, good one.

 

11 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Don't tell me petro isn't OK

How about we try it out first before we start talking about it shall we? People said the same thing about radio location and look how that turned out. Also, since when is one ship being strong (and/or possibly OP) suddenly bias?

 

11 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Even the Sinop is dam [edited]OP for his tier ... Ofc if you give your broadside to ennemies, they'll trash. But if u just angle a minimum, u are just impossible to kill. But thx to u, I see WG will never die 

Sinop is strong but not OP. It could use some smaller nerfs but that's it. By this logic any decent ship is OP and therefore "BRITISH BIAS", cause thunderer

[Maris_Piper]

I've thought long and hard about World of Warships and it's Direction/Business Plan or Suicide Yolo depending on your opinion and to be honest I'm going to stay to the end ( Mine or the Games WCF)  I'm just so intrigued by all that's happening and it wouldn't take a lot of Effort (Sorry for Using the E word) to regain player confidence and enjoyment in game, it would involve biting some bullets though on WG's part including some investment in game mode etc But this could be a ing Awesome Game ,and think on WG if you spend  you could end up with  Just My Boring Opinion Though.

[zedeIeyici]

2 hours ago, domen3 said:

Okay I just have to say it...you're an *EDIT* for thinking that russian bias is: Soviet ships are OP...no....The only russian bias in this game is the massive number of soviet ships being added before other more noteworthy navies.

Just Wow!!

[SV_Kompresor]

Just now, Gong_ER said:

Just Wow!!

Thank you

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I play DD and cruisers too (I used to play CV before rework sometimes). And staying next to an island is camping for me ^^ 

Interestingly your BB perform better than your Cruisers....

 

And when staying near an island, near a cap, and tanking for your team is camping for you, then that is your problem.

[Dukewerth1]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

Interestingly your BB perform better than your Cruisers....

 

And when staying near an island, near a cap, and tanking for your team is camping for you, then that is your problem.

Yeah, because as I said, I hate camping. And cruisers is camping for a lot ^^ Tanking for me is making in a position that I can be focused while the others are "free" to do their jobs. But when you are spotted at the beginning on the game by CV, or a HE ship shoots u and put u on fire very often u can't tank for the team. That's what I meant

[Dukewerth1]

13 minutes ago, motor_g_b said:

I've thought long and hard about World of Warships and it's Direction/Business Plan or Suicide Yolo depending on your opinion and to be honest I'm going to stay to the end ( Mine or the Games WCF)  I'm just so intrigued by all that's happening and it wouldn't take a lot of Effort (Sorry for Using the E word) to regain player confidence and enjoyment in game, it would involve biting some bullets though on WG's part including some investment in game mode etc But this could be a ing Awesome Game ,and think on WG if you spend  you could end up with  Just My Boring Opinion Though.

Appreciated a decent opinion.

I completely agree, this game is very good. But, still my opinion, the balance doesn't exist anymore and lot of issues are here (too much to get pleasure to play). When u get less pleasure and be too much angry about smg, u give up ^^ However, I never spend any money on games. 

[Dukewerth1]

27 minutes ago, domen3 said:

Any ship can damage you a lot, but CV's cannot kill you on their own. The only ships they're OP against are DDs. (and stalingrads)

 

I say that to everyone that says russian bias means that soviet ships are OP. Don't take it to heart.

 

Lol, good one.

 

How about we try it out first before we start talking about it shall we? People said the same thing about radio location and look how that turned out. Also, since when is one ship being strong (and/or possibly OP) suddenly bias?

 

Sinop is strong but not OP. It could use some smaller nerfs but that's it. By this logic any decent ship is OP and therefore "BRITISH BIAS", cause thunderer

 

How do u explain that a CV can destroy u 20% of HP in 1 salvo even if u play "correctly". Vs others ships, if u angle, u are safe without any problems. Vs CVs, u can't do anything ... 

And I played stalingrad in NA server. Yes it is ... when u do dmg vs all ships without losing lot of HP ... I also tryed petro in NA server and it was easier than all the others ships that I played .... 

[SV_Kompresor]

2 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

How do u explain that a CV can destroy u 20% of HP in 1 salvo even if u play "correctly". Vs others ships, if u angle, u are safe without any problems. Vs CVs, u can't do anything ... 

It can't. Or rather, many ships can do the same.

 

3 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

And I played stalingrad in NA server. Yes it is ... when u do dmg vs all ships without losing lot of HP ...

Stalin is very strong yes. The thing is, it can be countered extremely easily too. The ship is only strong when it's camping bow or stern in. And you know what that means. AP bombers.

 

4 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

I also tryed petro in NA server and it was easier than all the others ships that I played ....

Okay, let's hope WG nerfs it then. That doesn't make it russian bias. Russian bias using your definition would be if WG made their entire line 10% stronger than anything else.

[Dukewerth1]

2 minutes ago, domen3 said:

It can't. Or rather, many ships can do the same.

 

Stalin is very strong yes. The thing is, it can be countered extremely easily too. The ship is only strong when it's camping bow or stern in. And you know what that means. AP bombers.

 

Okay, let's hope WG nerfs it then. That doesn't make it russian bias. Russian bias using your definition would be if WG made their entire line 10% stronger than anything else.

It's still my feeling that russian line is strongest than the rest of all lines. AP bombers are very good vs stalingrad and I agree with you. However in that case, it shows u how CVs don't have any counter and too much ... 

Unfortunately, I have lived this too often (for the CVs I mean) and I can tell u this, this is the only way to lose a lot of HP ... (except unexpected DDs ^^ but in that case, I can counter). 

[GarrusBrutus]

19 minutes ago, Dukewerth1 said:

Yeah, because as I said, I hate camping. And cruisers is camping for a lot ^^ Tanking for me is making in a position that I can be focused while the others are "free" to do their jobs. But when you are spotted at the beginning on the game by CV, or a HE ship shoots u and put u on fire very often u can't tank for the team. That's what I meant

If the only cruiser playstyle you know is camping you play cruisers wrong.