anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe Players 211 posts Report post #1 Posted May 16, 2020 since when? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #2 Posted May 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, causalgamer said: since when? Since thursday, ie was added this patch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe Players 211 posts Report post #3 Posted May 16, 2020 I did pretty well with her without hydro now she is going to be a monster. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #4 Posted May 16, 2020 Unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe Players 211 posts Report post #5 Posted May 16, 2020 bought her just now - first game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe Players 211 posts Report post #6 Posted May 16, 2020 oh, captain skill 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #7 Posted May 16, 2020 gaede got one too, i'm almost tempted to play it after a couple of years. almost 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #8 Posted May 16, 2020 Liked her from the first game. My best t5 DD. Now will be even better. Not t61 level but still very good torpedo boat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #9 Posted May 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: gaede got one too, i'm almost tempted to play it after a couple of years. almost Gaede always had a one. It just used to only have it on the B hull, now it gets hydro on both hulls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #10 Posted May 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, lafeel said: Gaede always had a one. It just used to only have it on the B hull, now it gets hydro on both hulls. ah okay then, I read it wrong obviously thanks Laf :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAILS] BruceRKF Players 1,077 posts 27,211 battles Report post #11 Posted May 16, 2020 I don't think T-22 really needed hydro, I liked her before already, but it is nevertheless a welcome addition. She already had good concealment and decent torpedoes, balanced with her anaemic guns and slow speed. Gives her a bit more utility I guess. My favourite t5 DD (don't have any of the Kamikazes). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #12 Posted May 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: ah okay then, I read it wrong obviously thanks Laf :) No problem. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #13 Posted May 17, 2020 12 hours ago, causalgamer said: I did pretty well with her without hydro now she is going to be a monster. Yep IMO tier for tier the best german DD, now most definetly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_Q28oK2IubRbe Players 211 posts Report post #14 Posted May 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Yep IMO tier for tier the best german DD, now most definetly Agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #15 Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Yedwy said: Yep IMO tier for tier the best german DD, now most definetly Silver that is. T61 is on another level of OPness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #16 Posted May 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: Silver that is. T61 is on another level of OPness. Yep I meant silver one ofc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #17 Posted May 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Yedwy said: Yep IMO tier for tier the best german DD, now most definetly Are you serious? Haven’t played her in ages but T22 used to the worst stinker in the line. Should I take her out again? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted May 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Are you serious? Haven’t played her in ages but T22 used to the worst stinker in the line. Should I take her out again? Well IMHO... T2 is a meme as most in that tier are... The T3 and 4 are reasonable albeit under armed ships... T5 is decent overall although the floaty shells do ruin the overall impression a bit it still behaves as an actuall DD T6 is ruined by its sheer size and clumsiness T7 is ruined by being to weak and poorely armed for its tier T8 is another meme, I have cruises more nimble then this thing T9 is just not strong enough to actually make use of its hydro although its better then T10 T10 well, we dont really need to discus T-52 dont we... https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4179506992,Z-52/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #19 Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 4:25 PM, causalgamer said: since when? Thanks for drawing this to my attention - I'd missed it. Gave mine a run out earlier, and it was a monster (despite the vigorous attentions of a couple of T4 CVs for much of the battle); I think it does have a slightly unsporting advantage at the moment - judging by the Hill (?) I bushwhacked in its smoke, at least some people don't know about the hydro yet... Edit: 31 plane kills too...! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #20 Posted May 18, 2020 These are the KM DD per Tier: http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200516/eu_2month/average_ship_u.html No, T22 is not so good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,856 battles Report post #21 Posted May 18, 2020 Ah, German destroyers. Occasional moments of fun and days of misery. Too big, too slow, too undergunned. I'll be interested to see what WG have in store for that new premium, but it looks about two tiers too high..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted May 18, 2020 32mm pen with 128mm guns... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,856 battles Report post #23 Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: 32mm pen with 128mm guns... Is that the new one, then? It's quite interesting if they are giving the German DDs improved HE pen but the main line is still way outclassed by every other DD line. Those guns just don't cut it anymore... Tier V reload and HE damage won't do at Tiers VIII upwards. They should definitely take the hint from Haida and buff the high tier ships' shell damage. DD play has such short windows to make an impact, these days - can't do that with German guns which are slow to traverse and - unlike the Soviets - don't do much damage when they are on target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #24 Posted May 18, 2020 Took it for a spin twice. Sadly being bottom tier in t7 games with t6 CVs for a bonus I could barely spot and hope that my team will be able to farm enemy ships. My biggest contribution was just surviving and capping and even this wasn't easy. A few shots here and there plus spam of torps mostly dodget by enemy ships. Still I was lucky as I've won in both. By MM not by my own merit though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,333 battles Report post #25 Posted May 18, 2020 17 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Are you serious? Haven’t played her in ages but T22 used to the worst stinker in the line. Should I take her out again? Yes, do it. I have only an 8p captain on her and she is fun to play. 3 hours ago, ColonelPete said: No, T22 is not so good... Because selectively showing the WR of ships is enough to say how good a ship is. Let's forget it's played mostly by new players. Let's forget that T5 is the first tier players get +2 MM. Let's forget in what state DDs are in thanks to CVs. Sorry, but stats do not in any way describe the subjective fun of playing a particular ship. 59 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Is that the new one, then? It's quite interesting if they are giving the German DDs improved HE pen but the main line is still way outclassed by every other DD line. Those guns just don't cut it anymore... Tier V reload and HE damage won't do at Tiers VIII upwards. They should definitely take the hint from Haida and buff the high tier ships' shell damage. DD play has such short windows to make an impact, these days - can't do that with German guns which are slow to traverse and - unlike the Soviets - don't do much damage when they are on target. Yes, the one with useless torps and British smoke. But, German DDs need a buff somewhere. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites