So WeeGee will shove subs down our throat

[Camperdown]

OK, so I suspended my judgement until they would enter the game.

From the patch notes:

"Submarines are arriving and will be playable in a separate battle type! This will enable us to continue testing the new ship type while we adjust the balance and mechanics on the live server by involving more participants, and won’t affect the other battle types. Only once we're done with all these steps will we be able to decide on the final fate of the new unit type."

That is WeeGee speak for: OK so we understand you all hate the subs and think we can't shove them down your throats right away, but next patch the spreadsheet will show you are all fine with it. Then we will add them to other game types whatever you say.

 

Great 

 

[CptBarney]

It seems that subs also appear on your class played thingy as well. No icon yet but still.

If anyone can guess how long they will test subs in the live server they will get 20 extra sugary barneh biscuits.

[Elypse201]

33 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

It seems that subs also appear on your class played thingy as well. No icon yet but still.

If anyone can guess how long they will test subs in the live server they will get 20 extra sugary barneh biscuits.

One patch at most comrade then the nuclear russian submarines are rdy to be implemented. Spreadsheet is already saying so will be fun and engaging for everyone especially DDs.

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, Elypse201 said:

One patch at most comrade then the nuclear russian submarines are rdy to be implemented. Spreadsheet is already saying so will be fun and engaging for everyone especially DDs.

They even have heals if im correct lol. Now we just need loliboute with smoll 76mm autocannon speeding around at 60knots then balans will be achieved.

[_HomTanks_]

This patch note confirms that it will be a different mod on live server just as it was in the test server. 

[Verblonde]

Was anyone seriously in any doubt that there is any chance whatsoever that subs won't end up in the 'proper' game modes eventually?

 

That said, they're in a distinct mode to start with, which I have no problem with - if (as many of us expect, given WG's track record) the whole thing turns out to be an enormous rat-fornication, it won't harm the rest of the game.

 

You never know, they might even turn out to be a decent addition to the game eventually. The key word being 'eventually', and the key thing being whether WG have the patience to wait until they're actually mature enough for the main modes...

[Zemeritt]

2 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

You never know, they might even turn out to be a decent addition to the game eventually. The key word being 'eventually', and the key thing being whether WG have the patience to wait until they're actually mature enough for the main modes...

 

Quit dreaming. Remember when WG shoved Prem CVs at us, because they considered the Reeework finalised?

 

Almost everything WG is focused on lately is to make as much cash as possible, and since I doubt they'll sell subs for a seperate mode, they'll hit the randoms faster then many expect.

Of course all behind the excuse of "collecting more data"

[Verblonde]

1 minute ago, Zemeritt said:

Quit dreaming.

Yeah, you're right; I just suffer from occasional moments of (entirely) irrational optimism. It's probably some hideous alien brain parasite or something...

[anonym_ED57N4NbHHsY]

WG have spent money developing subs so they will be 100% in the game, that's already decided. I'm just glad that they are testing them in a special mode first. I have no real opinion on subs until I try them but I would never trust WG to balance them considering their awful track record with CV's and other aspects of the game.

[Dutchy_2019]

15 minutes ago, Zemeritt said:

 

Quit dreaming. Remember when WG shoved Prem CVs at us, because they considered the Reeework finalised?

 

Almost everything WG is focused on lately is to make as much cash as possible, and since I doubt they'll sell subs for a seperate mode, they'll hit the randoms faster then many expect.

Of course all behind the excuse of "collecting more data"

 

A massive difference - allegedly, since I was not there at the time - was that they dumped the CV rework on the main game directly.

 

The way they approach it now - PTS, now separate game mode - is something they apparently did not do with CV rework. In fact, you can see it as a tacit admission they did mess up the the CV rework. 

So I will see what happens.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

I wonder how this "special gamemode" will look like....

 

Tons of subs waiting for big phat targets... which after a while turn out to only be bots, as many non-submarine fansboi players probably won't enter this gamemode unless threatened with physical punishment...

So it's some human players in subs and tons of bots on their and their opponent's teams...

 

Or is the WoWs playerbase masochistic enough to enter this "fun and engaging gamemode with submarines (and guided torps)" by their own free will?

I know I won't....

[Dutchy_2019]

2 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

I wonder how this "special gamemode" will look like....

 

Tons of subs waiting for big phat targets... which after a while turn out to only be bots, as many non-submarine fansboi players probably won't enter this gamemode unless threatened with physical punishment...

So it's some human players in subs and tons of bots on their and their opponent's teams...

 

Or is the WoWs playerbase masochistic enough to enter this "fun and engaging gamemode with submarines (and guided torps)" by their own free will?

I know I won't....

 

Well, I enjoyed playing against them over on PTS, so yeah, I will give them a go. Of course it also depends a bit on how it connects to various missions and directives.

[lovelacebeer]

At least they are taking things a bit slowly but I will be really shocked if WG don't ram subs into randoms as soon as they think they can get away with it, and knowing them at the same time release a few premium subs that then they cannot nerf when they find out they are a bit too good. 

 

 

[Zemeritt]

6 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

A massive difference - allegedly, since I was not there at the time - was that they dumped the CV rework on the main game directly.

 

The way they approach it now - PTS, now separate game mode - is something they apparently did not do with CV rework. In fact, you can see it as a tacit admission they did mess up the the CV rework. 

So I will see what happens.

 

CV Reeework also had 3 TST Server runs.

Many good CV Players called out problems/loobholes with the new mechanics.

WG didn't listen, forced the Reework after the TST on the Live server and then had to panic patch many problems mentioned by the playerbase.

 

Everything WG has learned was the new seperate mode. But I doubt that the seperate mode will stay long.

[Verblonde]

12 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

players probably won't enter this gamemode unless threatened with physical punishment...

As Irene Adler in Sherlock tells us - know when you've been beaten....

[Deckeru_Maiku]

7 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

As Irene Adler in Sherlock tells us - know when you've been beaten....

No sh*t Sherlock...

Luckily when the sh*t hits the fan... sorry... when subs enter random mode there's still the option to either play CoOp or stay below the sub level... by playing T3 ships.. or would T4 be enough, too? Subs start at T6 right?

So instead of getting my fun diminished by underwater pests I go and enlighten some poor sods in the low tiers (and the other sealclubbers) about fun gaming at the lower tiers...

[HaachamaShipping]

3 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

No sh*t Sherlock...

Luckily when the sh*t hits the fan... sorry... when subs enter random mode there's still the option to either play CoOp or stay below the sub level... by playing T3 ships.. or would T4 be enough, too? Subs start at T6 right?

So instead of getting my fun diminished by underwater pests I go and enlighten some poor sods in the low tiers (and the other sealclubbers) about fun gaming at the lower tiers...

So, flee the subs by playing at the tiers of Hosho clubbers? I rather not.

[lossi_2018]

7 hours ago, CptBarney said:

extra sugary barneh biscuits

wut's in 'em? :)

[Rautainen_Biisoni]

9 hours ago, Camperdown said:

OK, so I suspended my judgement until they would enter the game.

From the patch notes:

"Submarines are arriving and will be playable in a separate battle type! This will enable us to continue testing the new ship type while we adjust the balance and mechanics on the live server by involving more participants, and won’t affect the other battle types. Only once we're done with all these steps will we be able to decide on the final fate of the new unit type."

That is WeeGee speak for: OK so we understand you all hate the subs and think we can't shove them down your throats right away, but next patch the spreadsheet will show you are all fine with it. Then we will add them to other game types whatever you say.

 

Great 

 

Correct young Padawan. Very good. You have finally started to understand how to translate WG writings. The force is strong in you. 

Magical spreadsheets indeed will tell you that you are very content with submarines being shoved down your throat. The separate battle type is just a hoax to soften up the weak minded individuals.

[Yedwy]

8 hours ago, Zemeritt said:

Quit dreaming. Remember when WG shoved Prem CVs at us, because they considered the Reeework finalised?

Yep, I remember spitting my coffee all over my keyboard when I read that

 

7 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

A massive difference - allegedly, since I was not there at the time - was that they dumped the CV rework on the main game directly.

 

The way they approach it now - PTS, now separate game mode - is something they apparently did not do with CV rework. In fact, you can see it as a tacit admission they did mess up the the CV rework. 

So I will see what happens.

BS there were 3 or 4 separate test runs on test servers same as for subs, only difference being that they didnt put CVs in separate mode afterwards but then again we have to remember the CVs were ALREADY IN GAME before that and people had premium CVs as well so they couldnt really exclude them from normal play for long anyway as that could be considered as to constituting "failure to deliver" in some courts and hence might get well shall we say "unagreeable" and doubloon payback might have not been enough in those cases

[CptBarney]

5 hours ago, lossi_2018 said:

wut's in 'em? :)

They are chocolate chip cookies with a fudge center 'w'/

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Well i guess it won't be long before the soggy subways fly into randoms and citadel everything and everyone, tier 8 and 10 will be giant memes.

[ThePurpleSmurf]

14 hours ago, Camperdown said:

That is WeeGee speak for: OK so we understand you all hate the subs and think we can't shove them down your throats right away,

For a change this is not WG's fault. Already years ago they always said there will be no Subs in the game because the game is not designed to support them. But there was always a small amount of players who bugged them, were asking them for when Subs are implemented into the game whenever there was a Q&A, on live stream and other occasions. They were bugging WG again and again, telling them how cool it would be and how they would throw tons of cash at WG to get to play Subs. Eventually WG gave in and granted the wish of those few fruits out there and now we all have to suffer from it. Most likely those who bugged WG the most stopped playing and won't even see it anymore.

So it's not really WG's fault, but people should be careful what they wish for, it might become true.

[Migantium_Mashum]

11 hours ago, Verblonde said:

As Irene Adler in Sherlock tells us - know when you've been beaten....

and just as happened with 8.0 the game will lose players (Players who spend money)...... then there'll be a rush of patches, hotfixes... but as before the lost never return...

[albin322]

yes please put them in my throat !!!

[Bratoev]

Can't wait for the subs to arrive in randoms.