[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,779 battles Report post #26 Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ColonelPete said: Despite agreeing on the possibility that you play her wrong, you do not want help and instead blame the ship? The pinnacle of ignorance! Both US ships perform completly average btw, there is nothing wrong with them: https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4075730928,Seattle/ Worst average damage of any Tier IX cruiser in the game, third worst k/d ratio, bottom half of the table on win rate, average XP, frags. (It is quite good at shooting down planes though). This at a tier where there are several ships made of pure explodium.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #27 Posted May 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: https://wows-numbers.com/ship/4075730928,Seattle/ Worst average damage of any Tier IX cruiser in the game, third worst k/d ratio, bottom half of the table on win rate, average XP, frags. (It is quite good at shooting down planes though). This at a tier where there are several ships made of pure explodium.... Stop comparing her with premium ships using K/D ratio using a database comparing entries from different versions of the game She has the third highest base attack and second highest base defense rating of any silver Tier IX cruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R3B3L] HystericalAccuracy Players 1,505 posts 40,357 battles Report post #28 Posted May 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said: the moment you get spotted, you pop radar and have a DD spotted. oh yes, just like i recently rushed a smoke, popped the radar - and there was a GK next to the Jutland me > port 🙄 But basically that´s how-to US CL´s 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,779 battles Report post #29 Posted May 4, 2020 2 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Stop comparing her with premium ships using K/D ratio using a database comparing entries from different versions of the game Shan't. The point was that Tier IX is not a good place for standard cruisers, and Seattle's stats show it. A ship that people play for the destination, not for the journey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] Flock_Undead Players 266 posts 3,046 battles Report post #30 Posted May 4, 2020 Tbh i never understood the hate towards Seattle, i liked that ship quite well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #31 Posted May 4, 2020 7 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Shan't. The point was that Tier IX is not a good place for standard cruisers, and Seattle's stats show it. A ship that people play for the destination, not for the journey. They show that she is in a decent spot in the middle. When you look at the wrong numbers, it is not surprising that you see something else. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #32 Posted May 4, 2020 Seattle has catastrophically bad guns IMHO, it's fragile like a flawed eggshell which is why I don't touch the thing.... However... Some people take the Seattle, park it behind some cushy little rock, suitable close to a cap. From there they make use of those crappy guns to lob off HE spam on enemy ships using the cushy little rock for cover. The radar? They don't use it like real combat ships do. Instead they start it up when the enemy DD is trying to cap. Profit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-QQ-] Kejoz Players 100 posts 7,115 battles Report post #33 Posted May 4, 2020 Yes it feels sluggish, yes it is fragile, yes it is hard to play and might be situational. It feels like a downgrade from Cleveland but it is not. Do not spec it into range, shells are too slow to snipe from afar, spec into gun reload and ifhe + fire chance. You have to fight on your terms, fire from behind islands, go into open water when enemy pushes into you, do not chase enemy ships (your shells are too slow to fire at enemy who is running away), ambush destroyers at close range (you have both, radar and sonar), spam battleships with he but always have an island close by, avoid being shot at by long range cruisers catch them at close range and show them superior american firepower. Avoid open water full of enemy ships, you will die fast. This ship is a well balanced flamethrower, it does the thing that many ppl complain about but in a least frustrating way, she has to be close to the targets she is engaging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lin3 Players 746 posts Report post #34 Posted May 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Seargent_Nigel said: Can someone please tell me why is there a Seattle in the game at T9? - or in the game at all for that matter. It must have some redeeming features but I have yet to discover them? - please enlighten me. Its not fast Its slow firing No armour to call anything Damage dealt is pathetic Its got Radar but if you use it , it means that you'll also soon be spotted as its detection rate is also hopeless, soon as your spotted your a goner. This is a Windows based game. Where's Microsoft's head office? And just like Windows 10, the Seattle isn't very good. Geddit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #35 Posted May 5, 2020 I hated Seattle as well. My primary gripe with her were the firing angles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,332 battles Report post #36 Posted May 5, 2020 Buffalo is WAY superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BUSHI] Odo_Toothless Players 5,402 posts 24,784 battles Report post #37 Posted May 5, 2020 For me Bufallo and Seattle are downgrade from very good VIII's, which had smaller sizes/citadels and much better gun placement. To make it somewhat work without too much stress, I took on both range module. At least in that scenario, we don't need to be an unicuum player, to make DMG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #38 Posted May 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Yoshanai said: Seattle is a tier9 cruiser of the US light cruiser line. As all other t9 ships in all of the nations tech trees it is the last step before reaching t10. Seattle is in the game to fill that spot. I am sorry that is not correct, seattle was put there to get Baltimore down to T8, and since it would not make sense to suddenly have 203mm Guns on the T10 they put the Worcester there as well... Damn i though that was obvious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambera_1 Players 1,018 posts 23,925 battles Report post #39 Posted May 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Beebo_The_Destroyer said: I am sorry that is not correct, seattle was put there to get Baltimore down to T8, and since it would not make sense to suddenly have 203mm Guns on the T10 they put the Worcester there as well... Damn i though that was obvious. Would you like to explain this comment please? Seattle and Cleveland are the T9 & T8 in the USN CL branch. Neither have 203mm (8") guns, both have 152mm (6") guns. Worcester is the 152mm armed T10 top of the tree, with fine auto loading turrets. Baltimore is 203mm armed T8 CA in the USN Heavy Cruiser line, with Buffalo following at T9, also 203mm armed. The Des Moines is the pinnacle of this line at T10. Are you looking back to the way it was before line split? Because if so I still don't follow what you are saying. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PARAZ] DasTongle Players 1,638 posts 15,421 battles Report post #40 Posted May 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, Cambera_1 said: Are you looking back to the way it was before line split? Because if so I still don't follow what you are saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOK] Donar79 Players 1,968 posts 9,010 battles Report post #41 Posted May 5, 2020 Vor 15 Stunden, pra3y sagte: No one here can really answer that question except for WG. I mean back when Karlsruhe just came out, I always wondered why such a ship existed in game. The Emerald as well. Those things were so, so, sooooooo bad. And this is coming from a guy who enjoyed playing the furry taco before it was buffed and the tier 7 Pensacola. Nice. So you are the other one who liked them both too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,837 battles Report post #42 Posted May 5, 2020 Seattle may very well be the worst Fxp sink in this game.. After many buffs, I guess Izumo gave the title to her.. Oh memories.. stop.. I need to drink now.. I remembered my seattle grind.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Gebe_ Players 360 posts 12,280 battles Report post #43 Posted May 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Excavatus said: I remembered my seattle grind. Don't give me flashbacks, mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,844 battles Report post #44 Posted May 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Excavatus said: Oh memories.. stop.. I need to drink now.. I remembered my seattle grind.. Did you play her as well when the range was still bugged on the B-hull ? Which didn't make playing a ship with already mediocre handling and health, any more comfortable. ^^ Let alone the blyatiful turret angles. ^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K-N-F] PrinzSiegfried Players 143 posts 6,314 battles Report post #45 Posted May 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said: Well, you did 27k average damage with the Cleveland, and 35k with Seatle. It seems all to be in line of what to be expected. Srsly, with Cleveland 27k? It's an overhelming satan (with IFHE). You're playing it bad. :p Still Seattle imo is worse than Cleve to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIRKO] TakahashiRyosuke [MIRKO] Players 120 posts 16,158 battles Report post #46 Posted May 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Seargent_Nigel said: Can someone please tell me why is there a Seattle in the game at T9? - or in the game at all for that matter. It must have some redeeming features but I have yet to discover them? - please enlighten me. Its not fast Its slow firing No armour to call anything Damage dealt is pathetic Its got Radar but if you use it , it means that you'll also soon be spotted as its detection rate is also hopeless, soon as your spotted your a goner. omg l2p, or the next post will be "Why is Wooster in game?" xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GWR] illy Players 913 posts 18,721 battles Report post #47 Posted May 5, 2020 it's nice to have a firework display as the shells just hang and hang in the air............ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,837 battles Report post #48 Posted May 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Gebe_ said: Don't give me flashbacks, mate she is just another reason for my recurring alcohol problems.. but my the*rapist prescribed me some cvs.. which helped a lot :) 28 minutes ago, rnat said: Did you play her as well when the range was still bugged on the B-hull ? Which didn't make playing a ship with already mediocre handling and health, any more comfortable. ^^ Let alone the blyatiful turret angles. ^^ sadly yes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #49 Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Donar79 said: Nice. So you are the other one who liked them both too. Aye I had alot of fun and interesting battles with them, especially with the Pensacola. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOK] Donar79 Players 1,968 posts 9,010 battles Report post #50 Posted May 5, 2020 Vor 7 Minuten, pra3y sagte: Aye I had alot of fun and interesting battles with them, especially with the Pensacola. Yeah i can't explain why but even the not so succesful games couldn't dampen the joy with these ships...they just felt good in a strange way. Maybe it was the oomph if someone presented you his broadside once in a while. And Pensa taught me a lot especially because of the awful concealment. This ship really forced me to use the minimap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
