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Upon painstaking testing I have put together a detailed overview of the iconic bare knuckle battleship - THE TIRPITZ! This is a guide meant for the captain that has fallen in love of the entire German battleship tree and is possession of a Bismarck or at least a Gneisenau and is wondering what it would feel like adding or changing to her counterpart. While both ships are nearly identical on paper, but as the saying goes, the devil's in the details. So if you want one and got its sister ship, take a look at the following comparison:
 

ARMOR
Krupp steel, bro! Exact same level of toughness but with one minor exception. Tirpitz sits slightly shallower, which makes it just a little bit more likely of getting her citadel hit, but that only applies when you're in such a range that enemy guns are just barely able to get enough gun depression to get past your turtleback armor. Interestingly, this is usually around her maximum torpedo range, which when an average player would also expose their broadside to fire said torpedoes. you must avoid showing the enemy your broadside at such ranges. This is why I found noobs sometimes complaining about the tirpitz being too fragile to brawl... LOL!

MAIN ARMAMENT
While on paper its identical, I've noticed some significant changes. Surprisingly, the guns are actually behaving themselves! While disperion values remain the same, I've found Tirpitz guns lading much more hits across the vertical gradient. While the aforementioned fact does NOT make her a viable sniper, it effectively increases damage done at long ranges by 50% against broadsiding targets!

The Tirpitz has torpedoes! Because an 11.2 km (lets face it, if you're at least a mediocre player german bb player, you will have so many secondary flags that you couldn't possibly spend them all) HE hailstorm of death isn't enough, it also has a 6km go **** yourself zone, where you can just fire and forget at anything that has less than 64.000HP. But patience is the key. You don't want to launch these torpedoes right away because you will be exposing your aforementioned armor issue, and as soon as you will enter torpedo range, people will start turinng away in panic. Waiting for the right moment to launch pays off by doing your entire HP pool's worth of damage in less than 10 seconds!

 

SECONDARY ARMAMENT
Also the same "wrath of satan" type of destructive firepower that you've come to expect with any german battleship above bayern's tier. But BIsmarck had major problems shooting secondaries at targets directly in front and behind her. The tirpitz doesn't have this problem, excellent secondary battery arks. Other than that, same all, same old.

AA DEFENSE
Noticeably worse. But catapult fighters help. If you're going to use spotting plane with the Tirpitz you will definitely suffer from "sky cancer"! Arranging for AA cruiser escort chemotherapy is recommended but don't be a scrub and protect your escorts.

 

MANUEVERABILITY
Aside from the minute difference in speed, the Tirpitz is clumsier than her sister ship. It has same engine power but has a hard time getting the engine to respond, the same anemic response is also being felt went coming out of a hard rudder turn. Unless you're hugging islands, I recommend you commit your hard turns 3/4 engine power compared to Bismarck's 1/2.

CONCEALMENT
Specced fully for concealment, the Tirpitz has 12.9km concealment rating. If you couple that with a full secondary build, if you sneak up to your enemy all the way up to her detection range, there is not a ship in the game that could turn around fast enough before you will get into range of your secondaries... which is only 1.7km! And with Tirpitz speed, they won't get away easy, if not at all. At least not before a lot of pain and suffering!

ADDITIONAL TIPS AND FACTS
- People are terrified of the Tirpitz! I've seen Yamatos turn away and run. Doing it properly, you can abuse the fear factor and deny people going for the objectives!

- While the power of German secondaries cannot be overstated, But trading manual secondaries for survivability perks can be viable, since they hit battleships and cruisers consistently, and destroyers will turn the run just for the notion that you "might have manual secondaries". Again the fear factor.

- For being successful in a Tirpitz is about NOT shooting because of her awesome concealment mechanic. German guns are low in number and alpha damage so sneaking up to someone is always better than HOPING to weaken your targets before you get into effective range. Tirpitz concealment works in tandem with where most of her firepower becomes very effective.
- Don't think like a soldier, nor like a brawler, think like a deranged axe lunatic jumping at your prey from the bushes.And even if your victim is statistically stronger than you, it will either be occupied or just too surprised to realize that fact.

 

Well this is it. This is how the tirpitz feels like if you own a Bismarck and are considering buying one. I personally never regretted my choice since my first battle. If you have any comments or questions, please, don't keep them to yourselves!

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1 hour ago, BigBadBeef said:

Don't think like a soldier, nor like a brawler, think like a deranged axe lunatic jumping at your prey from the bushes.

:Smile_veryhappy:

 

...where was this post when I did the noob thing and bought a Torpitz at <250 battles?!? XD

[From experience: dont ;-> get past Bayern successfully - at least! ]

 

Nothing else to add, well done o7

 

cheers ...et santé 

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15 hours ago, BigBadBeef said:

MAIN ARMAMENT
While on paper its identical, I've noticed some significant changes. Surprisingly, the guns are actually behaving themselves! While disperion values remain the same, I've found Tirpitz guns lading much more hits across the vertical gradient. While the aforementioned fact does NOT make her a viable sniper, it effectively increases damage done at long ranges by 50% against broadsiding targets!

This is first class nonsense, backed up by nothing, not even your own personal performance in these ships. 

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Perhaps it is a bit excessive, however the guns noticeably work better at range with the same dispersion, but a higher percentage of them lands on your desired distance.  But if you want to compare stats, from today on, my winrate of the Bismarck is 49.52, while on the Tirpitz is 64.52%. My performance in the Bismarck is rated at 1376, but on the tirpitz it skyrockets at 1840.

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On 5/4/2020 at 2:26 PM, BigBadBeef said:

Perhaps it is a bit excessive, however the guns noticeably work better at range with the same dispersion, but a higher percentage of them lands on your desired distance.  But if you want to compare stats, from today on, my winrate of the Bismarck is 49.52, while on the Tirpitz is 64.52%. My performance in the Bismarck is rated at 1376, but on the tirpitz it skyrockets at 1840.

As much as i agree on most of your post this isn‘t a valid argument. A single data point (1 user) does not allow for valid and reliable conclusions. :  )

On mobile rn so looking up stats websites would be tedious, but there‘s more/less representative data out there.

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On 5/4/2020 at 2:26 PM, BigBadBeef said:

Perhaps it is a bit excessive, however the guns noticeably work better at range with the same dispersion, but a higher percentage of them lands on your desired distance.  But if you want to compare stats, from today on, my winrate of the Bismarck is 49.52, while on the Tirpitz is 64.52%. My performance in the Bismarck is rated at 1376, but on the tirpitz it skyrockets at 1840.

31 games in Tirpitz. If pretty much 3 games had gone different, you'd be 10% worse in WR.

 

Meanwhile average damage in both ships is 54.7k for Bismarck, 53.6k for Tirpitz, average kills is 0.86 for Bismarck, 0.84 for Tirpitz. 

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I have the Bismarck & will not consider buying the Tirpitz.

Why buy a Ger T8 BB when I already have a Ger T8 BB?

 Besides, I will no longer support WG by spending money on a product/service that is getting steadily worse

(I refer to the CV rework farce & fiasco plus the continuing powercreep).

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On 5/3/2020 at 10:13 AM, BigBadBeef said:

People are terrified of the Tirpitz! I've seen Yamatos turn away and run.

Really? A Yamato running from a Tirpitz? ROFL. Must have been a 'Tamato' you were up against there, BigBadBeef (lol).

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On 5/10/2020 at 11:25 AM, Aethervoxx said:

I have the Bismarck & will not consider buying the Tirpitz.

Why buy a Ger T8 BB when I already have a Ger T8 BB?

 Besides, I will no longer support WG by spending money on a product/service that is getting steadily worse

(I refer to the CV rework farce & fiasco plus the continuing powercreep).

Why, one reason, mad bad yolo rush brawls, secondaries firing like machine guns, and torps, sure only 6 k but i will never forget when I charged in one game, a BB to the left of  me and a BB to the right, one volley of torps in either direction, and bingo two kills, those moment are rare but you learn to cherish them, as a brawler Tirpitz is right there up alongside the Massachusetts, and just as solid an investment, I would take either of those ships over the overrated Georgia a tier higher, that is one ship I just cannot get on with, in fact at that tier FDG Soyuz and even the Lion is to my mind the better ships, but that is just my humble opinion.

 

But alas if you are  f2f player then my opinion won't change anything and I respect that.

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