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What makes you consider quitting WoWs?

What makes you consider quitting WoWs?  

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  1. 1. What do you dislike so much that you consider quitting WoWs?

    • Broken CVs
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    • Broken matchmaking
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    • Broken HE spam
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    • Broken promises
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For me it's less about quitting the game and more not playing that much because there are other things to do. I've got a bunch of games on my to-do list and they aren't gonna play themselves.

 

As far as other players in WoWs I'd have to say that while they aren't the brightest bunch they're fairly agreeable compared to most online PvP games I've seen. Sure, there's rage in chat and general wangrods on occasion, but most are actually quite polite.

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Nothing of the choosable answers. I would say for me its the really bad playerbase.

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I've already pretty much given up on the game. All my friends left one after another after CV rework, half the clan is inactive and as for me, the game leaves me more frustrated after playing. I'm no player that just pews for fun, I WANT to make an effort and will work for the team, but if I'm not feeling fulfilled at the end of the day there's no point in playing.

 

So, while I'd say one of my big annoyances is the CV rework, I can't even put it down just to that. The game is going downhill in my eyes because it gets less dynamic, less teamplay focussed and more campy by every update and every new shipline. Flanking, creating crossfires and concealed moves have all taken a huge step back, as did using stuff for team utility. I'm not really an old player with a history going back to the beta, but I fondly remember random matches with awesome team interaction from when I was new to the game. I chose to be a DD main for a reason. I love providing vision, smoking up friendlies and planning ambushes.

 

I remember saving a friendly CA who had gotten himself into a pinch and was asking for help, racing towards him, typing "turn, I'll smoke!" and laid a path for him to egress. I remember keeping the enemy spotted for two friendly BBs to finish off while holding my fire. Or getting help: I was trying to contest a cap but enemy planes were in the vicinity. Friendly RTS CV wrote "Akatsuki, go for it I've got your back!" and had air cover over the cap. Well try that now with the dumbed down reework CVs or the overabundance of radar and HE spam today. Pair it with only damage getting rewarded and it's clear why the current meta is so stale.

 

The powercreep also doesn't help. Every new ship needs to have gizmos and gimmicks to up the ante while some of the older lines haven't been touched and rebalanced in ages, with new ships just outperforming them. I hate, H-A-T-E, playing "what's meta" right now. I want to play what's fun / interesting for me! But if I have to consider if my fun choice is not the best for the job...

(And yes, I'm not the best player, I admit that. Unicums can make pretty much everything work in every meta)

 

And while I may not be the best player, I'm willing to learn. But seeing how WG tends to attract people who buy their way to high tier to mindlessly pew pew without having a clue what to do. I know the frustration of taking, then defending 2 caps simultaneously, killing enemies left and right while screaming for help and losing because a massive blob sailed down the border doing nothing.

 

THAT is what's wrong with the game. Bad management and game design decisions coupled with a horrible monetarization model that requires constant output to the lowest common denominator!

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I'm bored with the battle modes: random, coop, ranked etc it's all a bit similar

 

I wish they'd reinstate the old Ops or create some new ones; if nothing else they add variety

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This (me killing 3 DDs alone in the first 3 mins - and then losing the game)

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1 hour ago, this_simple_username said:

1) CVs. tier 4 CVs will probably make most new players leave, AA does basically nothing and DefAA is a joke. Wargaming should just admit that they aren't balanced properly and redo them. IJN AP bombs are too powerful.

Hang around with T4 BBs, most of them have a half decent AA rig for the tier, especially with the B Hull upgrades they can get. Same goes for T5 BBs too
yeah you might still get dropped on, But it is only going to happen once per air wing, and the CV is going to lose all of his planes fast if he keeps coming back for more.

Once you have dealt with a few wings of planes, You can spread out. and start actually getting to work.
its basically the Meta now, so its best to get used to it, because it gets worse at higher tiers due to radars.
 

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Wee Gee at very narrow intersection right now imo, either they fix the god damn balance issues, and other issues which people stated to them and stop cheeki breeki dishonest moves which they think they are getting away with it (Narai s*itshow, Puerto Rico, Freexp value depreciation, more expensive "fremium" ships etc.), or going to continue to pump out more braindead "fremiums", premium alike  and going to watch the game going to down hill. 

 

As people stated before me:

1. CVs just pure s*it show right now.

 

2. Tier X games thx to p2win and p2level, just unbearable. ROFLStomps, and pure torture to play.

 

3. HE spam is being serious problem thx to fire spitting Smolensk piece of s*it and other 2 secs reload nothing you can do to counter ships they introduced.

 

4. No room to tactical play left at high tier, there are literally more then two Smolensk other derivative ships (Colbert etc.) behind every rock, waiting you to enter their absurd firing range. If you been caught one of them you are just done. Alt+F4 the game. Dont tell me you need to manage your DCP BS when they are spitting 16 shells in every god damn 2 seconds.

 

5. What BS they pulled at Narai was the final nail to coffin for me. They forget to "fix" the real problem as it seems.

 

6. Infamous desync issue. And they dont give rat a*s about it yet. Instead fixing the issue, they are pumping out yet another unending series of ships again.

 

I stopped to play the game at yesterday. Just watching the s*it show WG created and reading the forum. Stopped to pay this game for 3 years because of changes they made. And if they continue like this, i am going to firmly stop to play this game alltogether nevermind pay a dimme again..

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2 hours ago, Lord0 said:

I'm bored with the battle modes: random, coop, ranked etc it's all a bit similar

 

I wish they'd reinstate the old Ops or create some new ones; if nothing else they add variety

Agreed.

I wasn't in this game when the other Ops were still around but the available ops are getting boring very fast, but of course, they went away following the sh*t show of the CV rework which they haven't fixed yet.. ONE YEAR LATER..

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CVs. They ruins the game. And if they put subs in random…..well, that would get me out of this game for sure. 

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asking for help then the whole team yolos.. 

 

edit: the team doesnt even acknowledge that they are useless treats it like a tier 4 game. where is the coordination? 

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7 hours ago, Igarigen said:

Nothing of the choosable answers. I would say for me its the really bad playerbase.

Same, bot-like players in pvp ruin the battles both when in yours or in the opposite team

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None of your options, my issue is the lack of content for the game world itself. Ships are great but they need to put more effort into creating environment, for example how about improving how the weather cycle works, why are seas mostly calm, ships that move in the ocean which effects aiming. 

 

Sadly I only play because I have no alternative to scratch this itch.

 

And we think CVs are bad, here come the Subs and extinction of BB players.

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8 hours ago, Lord0 said:

I'm bored with the battle modes: random, coop, ranked etc it's all a bit similar

 

I wish they'd reinstate the old Ops or create some new ones; if nothing else they add variety

Agree 100%, I wish they would put more effort into this part of the game. Only thing that keeps me coming back.

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As a coop main, I obviously do not like the emphasis that WG is placing on PvP. As most others, it is also the attitude that WG showcases with (nearly) everything they do and tweak towards more aggressive monetarization. I guess this does not need any further detail and surely is known to the fullest extent possible by everyone even remotely interested. Instead I miss the option "broken attitude" in the poll.

 

Thus I throw in the reworked bots (in co-op) that seem to have no other purpose in their existence than to 1) be useless, 2) get out of the game as fast as possible (usually by ramming their counterpart, thereby at least being a zero-sum, or just driving into a red bots torps, losing you points achieving nothing), 3) sabotage the own team (deliberately torping allies at throwing distance, race to catch friendly torps that would otherwise hit an enemy, or at least not even bother to evade friendly torps (at least securing you a pinky), while the enemy bots manage to evade a full salvo from 1.5km in a BB) and 4) deprive actual players of points by magically missing everything except the final blow, magically hitting and destroying the final red one only when the cap needs 1 more sec (after having shot around it for several minutes before), or, vice-versa, strike a citadel the second before your own torps hit at broadside, and 5) driving between you and the enemy so that you can only hit the "green" bot, while they may or may not hit or get hit by the red bot, possibly leaving their wreckage between the red one and your torps as a protective shield.

 

And that is not even counting the other mysterious abilities of the enemy bots, like knowing which weapon type you have selected and managing to destroy or at least damage that exact one a split second before you need to trigger it. While the aforementioned points can also be observed inside the red team, this of course cannot. The green bots are always way less precise than the reds, even accounting for occasional accuracy spikes to sabotage players as above.

 

Maybe this is pure chance and observational bias on my part, but it sure seems to have gotten much worse since, well, the PR milestone. However, even a potato player is less of a nuisance than the "green" bots nowadays. The highest penalty is to be assigned a "green" CV. That one will play at it's absolutely worst, but of course drag in a red CV that is going to pester you and, even worse, artificially extend the match duration by forcing you to play the dreaded game of "hunt the CV" for 5 minutes after the match is in fact long done.

 

I fully assume this has been done deliberately to make co-op even more unattractive and unrewarding than it already is in all other respects.

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11 hours ago, CaptainCrumpet said:

here come the Subs and extinction of BB players.

 

2.6 kms far from you, absolutely invisible, two pings, variuos torps hit citadel in a few seconds and good bye. Well done, WG.

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For me it's none of the above; I'm considering quitting at least for the time being because the last update was so unstable I can rarely now have a game where the client doesn't crash right at the start or partway through and force me to re-load WoWs entirely (preferably before the match is over to avoid turning pink). I was getting lukewarm enough to playing before that happened that at this point it's not even really worth the hassle of going through the whole bug report process.

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On 5/2/2020 at 6:48 PM, The_Norwood said:

A lot of players are getting truly fed up with the broken aspects of this game. What are your dislikes?

No one is forcing you to play , if u dont like  the game take a break and come back if u want.

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Submarines. I am a WoT veteran, quit that game last year with the arrival of wheeled vehicles that were not OP but annoying to the edge of total frustration. Submarines have the potential to be wheelies of WoWs.

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1 hour ago, Ysterpyp said:

No one is forcing you to play , if u dont like  the game take a break and come back if u want.

Can you explain me whats your contribution to this topic with your answer? Im troubling to find any purpose of it.

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CVs are the worst. I am currently grinding EU DD line, currently T6. Almost every battle I enter there are one or two CVs per team. If the CV player is any good he knows that when he gets rid of enemy DD the rest is easy. So I get focused by a CV and I can't cap, I can't spot. If the CV player on my team is not as competent as the enemy CV than it is game over for me. Even then I normally end up being in the top 3 at the end of the battle. There is simply not counter to CVs not only in DDs. If the CV wants a piece of you he will have it no matter which ship you play.

I am just an average player but ever since CV rework my WR has been dropping down. And as an average player I don't know what to do anymore. I can't win, I don't have fun... So... I play because there is nothing similar to WoWs to play at the moment.

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Broken CVs, broken promises and the upcoming desaster of submarines being implemented just like reeeworked CVs...

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On 5/2/2020 at 6:48 PM, The_Norwood said:

A lot of players are getting truly fed up with the broken aspects of this game. What are your dislikes?

 

Events not suited to people with any measure of life made me leave for a long while. So more as such would make me leave again.

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Vor 14 Stunden, Ysterpyp sagte:

No one is forcing you to play , if u dont like  the game take a break and come back if u want.

I have downvoted your post not because you are incorrect in the literal sense, albeit stating the obvious is not being helpful at all, as has already been pointed out by others. The point is that people who complain in fact do want to play the game - just not the game it has become or can be expected to become in the foreseeable future. The reasons are many and being stated here one by one. Nobody (well, not me, anyway) expects this thread to change anything at all. Its purpose is to prevent the inevitable "you should have said so in time" accusations that can fully be expected to appear when (not "if") this car hits the concrete wall it is heading for at steadily increasing speed. Like this:

https://vimeo.com/4435893

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Removed censored clickbait youtube video, added uncensored vimeo link
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