[N_R_A] Head_has_Exploded Players 192 posts Report post #1 Posted May 1, 2020 I am very close to getting only one of these two and I just cannot make up my mind, if you had this choice of only these two ships, which would you go for and why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #2 Posted May 1, 2020 It is not even a question. Kremlin is like a brick you throw to people. GK is more like a big jelly chair to suck damage. You take the Kremlin on 365 days of the year. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #3 Posted May 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Head_has_Exploded said: I am very close to getting only one of these two and I just cannot make up my mind, if you had this choice of only these two ships, which would you go for and why? Kremlin fits the current meta better and arguably tanks better than GK. But if I had to choose I'd still go for the GK just cus its secondaries are so fun to use, especially with the recent 32 mm pen buffs which allow these secondaries to melt most BB's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #4 Posted May 1, 2020 The obvious advantage for Kremlin is its gun caliber. It can overmatch the midsection of basicly all TX heavy Cruisers, which GK cant do. That being said, my Kremlin certainly doesnt work like others people kremlins. Cant hit a barn from the inside, and often if it hits, its just overpens. Literally my worst TX BB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #5 Posted May 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: The obvious advantage for Kremlin is its gun caliber. It can overmatch the midsection of basicly all TX heavy Cruisers, which GK cant do. That being said, my Kremlin certainly doesnt work like others people kremlins. Cant hit a barn from the inside, and often if it hits, its just overpens. Literally my worst TX BB Absolutely the same feeling. Tanky as f*ck but the guns are awful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #6 Posted May 1, 2020 Kremlin, but it needs a buff. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #7 Posted May 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Peffers said: Kremlin, but it needs a buff. My teammates could use a buff, about ready to bash my head-in grinding the sodding schores. But yeah gremlin seems to be a better choice for randoms. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] MaxL_1023 Players 34 posts 16,899 battles Report post #8 Posted May 1, 2020 Kremlin if you have any idea how to play a BB, GK if you don't. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Head_has_Exploded Players 192 posts Report post #9 Posted May 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Peffers said: Kremlin, but it needs a buff. Lol, a Russian BB needing a buff? Well I do enjoy the Sinop and she is sort of calling to me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,469 battles Report post #10 Posted May 1, 2020 Well they gave the Kremlin better armour than the GK (larger 32mm nose but smaller superstructure) and much better guns. GK is a solid ship but unless you go secondary, the Kremlin does it better. Disclaimer: GK is still my most played ship and it physically hurts me to say this! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11 Posted May 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, gopher31 said: Well they gave the Kremlin better armour than the GK (larger 32mm nose but smaller superstructure) and much better guns. GK is a solid ship but unless you go secondary, the Kremlin does it better. Kurfürst is a solid ship, especially in a division. When I play along a Kurfürst in my division, I know I can count on him to get deep&dirty if we need to. I feel much stronger compared to having a Monty with me, f.e. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] MaxL_1023 Players 34 posts 16,899 battles Report post #12 Posted May 1, 2020 GK is a lot better since the Dispersion buff, in addition the HE changes mean that the 128mm secondaries pen 32mm now, so it is more effective in close against BBs who want to bow tank you. The problem is that it just doesn't have the firepower at close to medium range without exposing broadside, so it takes a lot more moderate volleys over time compared to a properly angled Kremlin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #13 Posted May 1, 2020 I love GK but if I had a gun to my head I would pick Kremlin. It almost pains me to admit it. Same for all other BB lines. :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #14 Posted May 2, 2020 7 hours ago, MaxL_1023 said: Kremlin if you have any idea how to play a BB, GK if you don't. Yeah sure. Kremlin aka. Yamato on steroids vs a German BB that actually require some skills to play it. From rookie player I didnt expect else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #15 Posted May 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Head_has_Exploded said: I am very close to getting only one of these two and I just cannot make up my mind, if you had this choice of only these two ships, which would you go for and why? At 12km broadside I did 61k citadel dmg to enemy kremlin with my GK . I was in conqueror once went for a brawl to a kremlin that was trying to rekt my fellow dd behind Island , 6 citadel straight through her frontal turret thats 73k salvo and instant deletion. Think of kremlin as moar a close-range yamato. If you can angle to everything, great! If you get outmaneuvered, it's painfully ovar for you. Also this if you know how to kremlin you can always turn the worst of tides in your favour. A smart GK wins every time. The Kremlin's citadel is hard to miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #16 Posted May 2, 2020 My Kremlin experience is that you park her next to an island to cover your broadside and with a view on a cap. Then you can control the cap by shooting the red ships around . You will get focused by noobs who think they can hurt you with their pitiful weapons. Basically you cannot be dislodged. The downside is that it's hard to escape with this ship, if needed, as your broadside is very vulnerable. My GK experience is that nobody comes into your secondary range and you melt easily by HE spam, whenever you try to push. Also with Smolensk, I focus GK first, as it's the easiest to melt, because of the superstructure rich environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #17 Posted May 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Head_has_Exploded said: I am very close to getting only one of these two and I just cannot make up my mind, if you had this choice of only these two ships, which would you go for and why? GK unfortunately has been Powercreeped to Hell. All of the Small Caliber Spamming Ships can Feast on the Gigantic Superstructure for Insane amounts of Damage. The Weak Torpedo Belt makes for Horrendous Hits on you whenever you Fail to Evade even a Single Torpedo. And with CVs getting the ability to Adjust Strikes down to the last Second. The lack of Maneuverability of the GK paired with its fairly Weak AA means that T10 CVs can fairly easily Drop you 2-3 Times with full Hits. Which means that if the CV wants you and your not hidden between alot of Friendly AA Ships you will lose 20-40k HP every 2 Minutes with next to nothing you can do about it. The Kremlin lacks the Turtleback. And therefore if you get its Flat Broadside on Short Range you can do Crazy amounts of Damage to it. But its Huge HP Pool and the Insanely Thick Armor on the Citadel Belt also mean that at higher Ranges getting a Citadel is really Hard. And while the GK will take Full Pen Damage to alot of such Hits. The Kremlin wont take any Damage at all. So in pretty much every Situation except having an Enemy BB or Supercruiser like 6km in your Flat Broadside. The Kremlin will actually be more Tanky than the GK. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAKE] Uglesett Players 2,804 posts 6,795 battles Report post #18 Posted May 2, 2020 9 hours ago, ForlornSailor said: When I play along a Kurfürst in my division, I know I can count on him to get deep&dirty 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #19 Posted May 2, 2020 Depends on what you intend to use it for. GK is in my oppinion more fun to play if you go for secondaries even thou it might not be as effective. Kremlin supposedly is better for competitive, I say supposedly thou because I think Kremlin is the biggest pile of garbage of all the T10 BBs. Guns are horrifically unreliable and it gets HE spammed to death when you try to play it to its role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #20 Posted May 2, 2020 As a DD main I can sink a GK with 10 torpedoes or less.... I can fire 15 at a Kremlin, it laughs in my face and shouts back: 'AND?' 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,581 battles Report post #21 Posted May 2, 2020 Both of them seem [edited]to me... The GK has that fun 12 rifles broadside and hydro, Kreml has higher caliber and better turret traverse, so... I'd go for Kreml. Traverse just feels so important whenever you're doing anything but making potshots at 20km. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSGdoncollier Players 130 posts 15,583 battles Report post #22 Posted May 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Peffers said: Kremlin, but it needs a buff. Kremlin, but it needs a nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] dasCKD Quality Poster 2,376 posts 19,148 battles Report post #23 Posted May 2, 2020 Kremlin. The Russian premium captain combined with a tanky battleship is basically unrivaled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #24 Posted May 2, 2020 54 minutes ago, SSGdoncollier said: Kremlin, but it needs a nerf. It would appear sarcasm, isn't a trait that may on these forum understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRonson Players 234 posts Report post #25 Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, dasCKD said: Kremlin. The Russian premium captain combined with a tanky battleship is basically unrivaled. I other words a ship brought out by the Russians to make them look good .........it's embarrassing when you see the damage areas of the Kremlin actually don't exist in the game! Along with the armour layout that is pure fantasy. I would check the coding it will have the same problem as a TANK we all know of!....... " KV " ( these ships actually do nothing for the game just sit there pointing straight at you....boring! ) Go with the GK, great fun with the secondaries and I take on the Yams and Montana's together with no sweat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
