Split Servers!! CV/U-boats

[AnotherDuck]

A separate server for CVs and subs sounds like a good idea. Off to the trashbin with them!

 

1 hour ago, Peffers said:

why not?  they are a plague.

You can't refer to WG content as a disease. That's against the rules. According to WG.

 

You're also wrong, because unlike crap like CVs, they counter each other very well.

[B051LjKo]

3 hours ago, Belamie said:

There are many players that don't like CV or Submarine being in the game.  The numbers show, that around 40% would delete the CV at once and an even greater percentage don't want the U-boats to come at all. It is just a fact! Of course, WG can do as they please, but if one solution would be to have several servers/game mods, where some are with all that there is, others have no CV or no U-boats and so on, this would make a lot of old players come back, and even new ones to join! WG please think about it, it would show immediately what is that your player base wants and after a time you can shut the ones down that are unpopular and so on....ç!!!!

I dislike DDs when I play in BBs, so WG please make one server for DDs so I dont have to play against them. I am playerbase, listen to me WG.

[Peffers]

28 minutes ago, B051LjKo said:

I dislike DDs when I play in BBs, so WG please make one server for DDs so I dont have to play against them. I am playerbase, listen to me WG.

some one understands  :)

[firerider202]

Vor 4 Stunden, Belamie sagte:

The numbers show, that around 40% would delete the CV at once and an even greater percentage don't want the U-boats to come at all. It is just a fact!

where did you get this numbers?

[AnotherDuck]

6 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

I dislike DDs when I play in BBs, so WG please make one server for DDs so I dont have to play against them. I am playerbase, listen to me WG.

I like DDs regardless of what I play. They make the game more fun and more dynamic. In games without DDs, I don't notice any more aggressive tactics. Players are if anything more passive because of less scouting. So, DDs make the game better.

 

I dislike CVs regardless of what I play. I've detailed it elsewhere, but they make the game worse for everyone but themselves.

[B051LjKo]

There is no need for spotting if there are no DDs around. DDs make the game hell for BBs. There should be a server with no DDs and no CVs, that woud be so much fun. Also, there should be a server where you can not aim with no LOS, you should not be able to fire behind an island nor from smoke.

[Ronchabale]

18 hours ago, Belamie said:

There are many players that don't like CV or Submarine being in the game.  The numbers show, that around 40% would delete the CV at once and an even greater percentage don't want the U-boats to come at all. It is just a fact! Of course, WG can do as they please, but if one solution would be to have several servers/game mods, where some are with all that there is, others have no CV or no U-boats and so on, this would make a lot of old players come back, and even new ones to join! WG please think about it, it would show immediately what is that your player base wants and after a time you can shut the ones down that are unpopular and so on....ç!!!!

Been playing this for a few years

Invested a lot of money on premium time and ships etc.

Had great fun but lately the game has got to the point where its no fun anymore

CV:s, fantasy op Russian ships, noobs buying tier 9-10 ships and now submarines are coming

I am not gonna say that I am gonna quit playing but have only played like 3 games in the last month

I am at the point where I dont really care

[SirAmra]

8 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

Been playing this for a few years

Invested a lot of money on premium time and ships etc.

Had great fun but lately the game has got to the point where its no fun anymore

CV:s, fantasy op Russian ships, noobs buying tier 9-10 ships and now submarines are coming

I am not gonna say that I am gonna quit playing but have only played like 3 games in the last month

I am at the point where I dont really care

Yeah. Me too.

My biggest gripe was the CV rework and the RB. Then came the PR disaster, and now we have subs.

It's like they try to mess up the game deliberately.

The CV/AA is a mess. And into this they try to put another class which will be completely broken into a game were u have to rely on your team to counter.....a playerbase that they have to dumb down the game for.

It's corridor maps all over again......

I hardly play these days. I just can't be asked. Specially if things like subs hit the PvP arena.

[Mastodon2]

I would support having CVs and subs in their own battle queue. I don't think they need to be on their own server but they could go in their own game mode. This would have the benefit of improving gameplay in the main queue for the vast majority of players who would rather CVs and subs aren't in the main game.

 

Wargaming must be aware that the CVs at present are considered at best to be an irritation and at worst, a factor which lead to a overall decrease in player numbers. Sadly I think they are too obstinate, they've spent all this money on changing it and it's worse for the player experience than it was before, but the money and time have been spent so we must live with it. It's the sunk cost fallacy. Sometimes you just need to admit you got it wrong.

[Bratoev]

Can we move cruisers in to their own servers? Me and my mates dont want to deal with them.

 

Alternatively move BBs to their own servers so I can play cruisers in peace.

[VeteranGamer84]

Very good idea. We need to have something similar to "Submarine Battle" concerning CVs. That will make players who like playing CVs find their joy in their private room.

[AnotherDuck]

3 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

There is no need for spotting if there are no DDs around. DDs make the game hell for BBs.

You've never actually played a game without DDs, right? Because there's still need for spotting. And DDs make the game more fun for BBs.

 

3 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

Also, there should be a server where you can not aim with no LOS, you should not be able to fire behind an island nor from smoke.

So if a ship sails behind an island, you should not be able to hit her at all? Even if it's a tiny island, barely high enough to cover the ship, in the middle of a 15km range shot? And you should also never be able to fire on ships in smoke? Because that's what you're also suggesting. If you can't fire from smoke, you can't fire into smoke. And if you're behind an island, it doesn't matter who's closest to the island. And really, if you need to have LOS to aim, you can't use other ships for spotting at all. Have fun finding your own targets in a BB.

[Runegrem]

3 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

There is no need for spotting if there are no DDs around. DDs make the game hell for BBs. There should be a server with no DDs and no CVs, that woud be so much fun. Also, there should be a server where you can not aim with no LOS, you should not be able to fire behind an island nor from smoke.

How do DDs make like hell for BBs? It can't be about spotting, because a BB that's shooting is spotted by anyone within LoS. It also can't be about damage, because the ship type that does the most damage against BBs is other BBs. So what is it? Do they make the game too scary because they're the "unknown" which, to be fair, is a traditionally scary thing.

[Peffers]

36 minutes ago, Runegrem said:

How do DDs make like hell for BBs? It can't be about spotting, because a BB that's shooting is spotted by anyone within LoS. It also can't be about damage, because the ship type that does the most damage against BBs is other BBs. So what is it? Do they make the game too scary because they're the "unknown" which, to be fair, is a traditionally scary thing.

It is a  take at all the DD players moaning about CVs.   Don't like the game you can uninstall.

[Runegrem]

39 minutes ago, Peffers said:

It is a  take at all the DD players moaning about CVs.

The difference being that one is about grievances about things that actually happens, while the other is about imaginary things. Also, players of all ship types say that CVs are broken, including CV players.

 

39 minutes ago, Peffers said:

Don't like the game you can uninstall.

I'm going to answer that with all the eloquence and grace it deserves: no u

 

 

[Aixin]

It is stupid to compare cvs with subs. Subs are completely broken cvs could be helped with minor adjustments. Subs neither have actual counterplay (for all classes) nor can be dodged (homing torps). Cvs can be dodged (if you know what to do quite easily actually) and thus kinda countered as the cv won't do much neither to you nor to your teammates if they are capable enough to dodge successfully. I first find just dodge is just a meme but it actually works quite often. Especially as most of the times the cv isn't good. And this is even so if aa didn't existed. Now aa exists and allows even more counter (well theoretically) ask a certain player on this forum to explain to you:) 

[Belamie]

 

23 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

And i dont get why everybody needs to make a new post about CV's, as we have a CV discussion topic. So yes, i hope the moderators do their job fast and close this one.

It is not about CV,s it is about making different game mods or servers where ppl can choose to play with either or none

[invicta2012]

22 hours ago, Peffers said:

why not?  they are a plague.

The only DDs which are as broken as CVs are the Kamikaze sisters, and even then that's only because they're at a Tier where there is no radar and very little hydro. 

 

The rest are balanced and accepted, they have proper counterplays and there are loads and loads of anti DD tools. Smoke firing was got rid of, OP DDs were nerfed very hard, the days of Minekaze being the most influential ship in a match are long gone. Playing a DD well - above Tier III anyway -  is now hard work and requires knowledge and skill.  So it's not a good comparison, really.

[MyopicHedgehog]

On 4/30/2020 at 6:48 PM, invicta2012 said:

I have to agree. Which means the only place free of the darn things will be Co-op and Operations, where WG won't be able to to get the AI to work properly. 

considering you get bot cvs in co-op with poor ai (on green team) I wouldn't be so optomistic.

[B051LjKo]

6 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

You've never actually played a game without DDs, right? Because there's still need for spotting. And DDs make the game more fun for BBs.

I've played a tonn of games without DDs, wnd they were all great fun.

6 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

 

So if a ship sails behind an island, you should not be able to hit her at all?

Correct, a ship without LOS can not hit a barn i  rl.

 

6 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

 

Even if it's a tiny island, barely high enough to cover the ship, in the middle of a 15km range shot? And you should also never be able to fire on ships in smoke? Because that's what you're also suggesting. If you can't fire from smoke, you can't fire into smoke. And if you're behind an island, it doesn't matter who's closest to the island. And really, if you need to have LOS to aim, you can't use other ships for spotting at all.

Nope, shhoting into smoke is no issue, you can do that easy.

 

6 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

 

Have fun finding your own targets in a BB.

I have zero issues in finding taRgets in a no DD game.

[MrWastee]

On 4/30/2020 at 5:37 PM, Belamie said:

[...]The numbers show, that around 40% [...]

 

On 4/30/2020 at 6:12 PM, Igarigen said:

[...] but you sure have a source for your "facts".

^this!

 

show off op, whats ur sources?!..... damn kids

[Aethervoxx]

Suggesting a Server split to remove CVs and/or Subs is not a good idea.

This game requires as many players as possible to be in the queue at all times so the MM can be as 'balanced' (ROFL) as possible.

[Pikkozoikum]

1 hour ago, B051LjKo said:

Correct, a ship without LOS can not hit a barn i  rl.

Actually I don't think they  need LOS. The ships aiming was not like in a game with a crosshair and more about calculations. So if a spotter plane would tell them the coordination, they could shoot the target. Having LOS just makes easier to adjust the aim because of the water splahes.

[Dominik_Tirpitz]

Maybe just make a gamemode for every class? Remove this remove that, wg invested too much money in CVs/subs to remove them now

[B051LjKo]

40 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Actually I don't think they  need LOS. The ships aiming was not like in a game with a crosshair and more about calculations. So if a spotter plane would tell them the coordination, they could shoot the target. Having LOS just makes easier to adjust the aim because of the water splahes.

How would those coordinates sound like, if you were the radio operator on the recieving end?