The Attack of the Dead Men: Osowiec

[Pionier]

A nicely done short film based on real events. And yet we have some people moaning. Cry me a river, really. Is it wrong if a russian company makes a film about heroism of russian soldiers? It's their choice, don't you think? And it's their money so they can spend them as they like. Do you see a bias and you side with Germans instead? You could see a heroic gas attack from the other side too. Take your pick. As for me I liked this film. Although, yeah, dubbing could be better or replaced with subtitles.

[gnist0s]

On 5/3/2020 at 11:17 PM, Pionier said:

A nicely done short film based on real events. And yet we have some people moaning. Cry me a river, really. Is it wrong if a russian company makes a film about heroism of russian soldiers? It's their choice, don't you think? And it's their money so they can spend them as they like. Do you see a bias and you side with Germans instead? You could see a heroic gas attack from the other side too. Take your pick. As for me I liked this film. Although, yeah, dubbing could be better or replaced with subtitles.

I dont deminor the battel they present in the movie. And yes it have a certain bias, and i would'nt care a flying truttelut if it wasnt for the money I spend on premium time, doublons and ships, they use on their propaganda.

There have been a lot of terrible batteles and slaughtering in the last big war, and i can think of some where the russians was the counterpart. Correct, the Axis and the alliered did some terrible things too. I can only hope for,

that WG dont use my money on propaganda, or at least make a movie with another bias next time.

 

This is only for the historical fact for today as citicen of Denmark:

Today, 75yeas ago, my country was liberated from the germans, sadly the people on the island of Bornholm had to wait another year before they got liberated from the russians! BUT i dont blame the german or russian people

of today for their ancisters wrongdoing, that would not be fair.

 

Have a nice day all of you  

 

[Pionier]

Please understand. You pay them money in premium shop. It's alright, me too (plus playing tanks and planes). But when you pay it's not your money anymore, it become their money. And they can spend their money however they want. Booze, women, expensive cars... or make a film. My employer as well has no right to tell me how I should spend my salary. And as for me I don't mind to see more films like this.

[Hopeless_Guppy]

As WG movies go, I much prefer this one,they did put the effort into this.

 

 

[MrMacavity]

It was a good film, BUT the dubbing of the original voices completely broke the immersion for me. Suddenly hearing a male officer dubbed by a female just felt wrong. Good visuals, but REALLY bad idea to dub it.

[Sturmi_0545]

for the next projects, please make a movie about ruski invaders getting smashed by the Finnish Defence Forces. and another one where the ruski hordes and the German army join forces to invade Poland. pure, uncut heroism ...

[Hopeless_Guppy]

Could have asked Sabaton to do the vid, but oh wait, they already have one

[Pionier]

On 5/10/2020 at 1:09 PM, Sturmi_0545 said:

for the next projects, please make a movie about ruski invaders getting smashed by the Finnish Defence Forces. and another one where the ruski hordes and the German army join forces to invade Poland. pure, uncut heroism ...

Ask Finnish or Polish company or you are barking up the wrong tree here. Then you can have whatever you wish even heroic deeds of SS troops.

[Andrewbassg]

On 5/5/2020 at 12:07 PM, Inappropriate_noob said:

As WG movies go, I much prefer this one,they did put the effort into this.

 

 

Exactly!!! Or the other one, with the torped DD.They are capable of doing GOOD and RELATED work, so just wtf  is this crap?!?

[MZL_Makrele]

Vor 9 Stunden, Pionier sagte:

Ask Finnish or Polish company or you are barking up the wrong tree here. Then you can have whatever you wish even heroic deeds of SS troops.

Or you ask my mother who was hijacked by the Grand Soviet Vaterland Army for six weeks in a "labor camp" and she will tell you what happened there to her and her sister by the "heroes" while the equally heroic officers were at best looking sideways if they were not busy doing the same to the Hun Fräuleins.

 

And those are the ones who of course today sport their chic uniforms and barets and hundreds of medals on their chest and get heroic videos from WG on the 75th anniversary of their disgracefulness.

 

So please remember, it is never black and white and try to avoid brawls wherever you can in your real lives. Which hopefully is the reason why you are here. 

 

Cheers

Norbert

[Pionier]

On 5/12/2020 at 8:04 AM, MZL_Makrele said:

Or you ask my mother who was hijacked by the Grand Soviet Vaterland Army for six weeks in a "labor camp" and she will tell you what happened there to her and her sister by the "heroes" while the equally heroic officers were at best looking sideways if they were not busy doing the same to the Hun Fräuleins.

 

And those are the ones who of course today sport their chic uniforms and barets and hundreds of medals on their chest and get heroic videos from WG on the 75th anniversary of their disgracefulness.

 

So please remember, it is never black and white and try to avoid brawls wherever you can in your real lives. Which hopefully is the reason why you are here. 

 

Cheers

Norbert

I totally agree. It's not black and white and I can understand that, bad things happen in the war no doubt.  My grandmother told me stories how she was hiding in a cellar with her mom and others in April 1945 when there was fighting in Brno, Czechoslovakia. She was 13 y.o. that time and told me how a red army soldier had given them a bread and helped because she reminded him his daughter. So she had fond memories. Maybe it is a bias from my side that I consider the Red Army to be a liberator of my country.

[MZL_Makrele]

Definitely, if you you think about how your fellow citizens had to live for the next forty years after the "liberation" by the glorious red army compared to your neighbors in "deliberated" Austria.

 

Cheers

Norbert

[Pionier]

On 5/14/2020 at 7:37 AM, MZL_Makrele said:

Definitely, if you you think about how your fellow citizens had to live for the next forty years after the "liberation" by the glorious red army compared to your neighbors in "deliberated" Austria.

 

Cheers

Norbert

Now my country became a colony of the EU (ruled by Germany and France) and my people are second class citizens used mostly as a cheap work force in the factories owned by western capital. Sure, it has many advantages too. You can travel anywhere (if you have money which many people don't have) and others. The previous period offered education and health care for free, basic food was cheap, no unemployment, much lower crime rate. It was no banana republic and we didn't live in caves or on the trees as people in the west think. On other hand there was lack of more luxurious goods, limited possibilities to travel abroad and generally poorer economical situation and not enough of the so called freedom of speech. However, you could live a reasonably comfortable life without worries. Advantages and disadvantages. The main problem wasn't the ideology but a lot of corrupted people in power (something that has never disappeared and is still present). I was only a high school student when it ended so I don't call myself an expert but nobody ever tried to drag me or my relatives to the gulag or anything, I felt quite free as a kid. And we never had any serious problem with Russians (forget 1968, a small episode, the most of young people now don't even know about). Maybe that's why in my country many people doesn't agree with all that anti-Russian hysteria (that's true, Slovakia is the most pro-Russian country in the area, google it). As for me I adapted and live and work in the UK for now, getting paid better than in my country and living my capitalist life. Just that corona virus sucks.

 

But let's not steal this thread and back to the topic. I liked the film. :-D