This game is a mess

[Lieut_Gruber]

6 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

I want players AROUND my skill level to play with me. I don't want to play with or against players that are way better or worst than me. Now my winrate doesn't reppresent my skills but the inexistent mm of this game

Priceless. You do realize that if you always play vs people of your own skill level, that we all will end up 49,9%? Might be nice for the 4x% army.....

[Camperdown]

3 hours ago, Taliesn said:

 

I knew you were volunteers and there was no chance part of your job (not really a job either but you get my drift) description was doing filtering, evaluating or give feedback. But since you are here, can we please have a irony or sarcasm emoji? 

 

Here you go

[Camperdown]

16 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

Priceless. You do realize that if you always play vs people of your own skill level, that we all will end up 49,9%? Might be nice for the 4x% army.....

Not if you have a couple of skill classes.

[Ferry_25]

Uninstalling is 1 thing. But I won't delete my account. I loved this game too much for that. And nobody can know for sure if it'll bounce back. I highly advice against deleting, OP. Letting your account rest doesn't do you any harm, does it?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

More or less valid points, but they'd be pretty moot points IMHO if the game mechanics weren't utter trash. In its current state the game is more or less jury rigged to keep running but at as soon as gets into rough seas... it will start to leak badly. You can carry on the analogy further if you feel like it....

[Floofz]

4 hours ago, Hawker_gb said:

Positioning.

 

It takes more skill then farming BBs in Concq or Thunderer from 20+km

 

Smolensk is no more broken then Concq or Thund.

 

It actualy doesnt, because with Smolensk you dont even need to be good at aiming, you can just fill the sky with fire and something will land.

Also Smolensk has carry capabilities, since you can pretty much lock down a flank with it. Conqueror not so much, not really Thunderer either. They cant hide and they cant tank, so if youre not careful you will die very quickly. Smolensk doesnt even need to be spotted to be able to do damage, and even if it does get spotted its amazingly difficult to hit if the player is good.

[lossi_2018]

I m more concerned with the game engine, it seems to get clankier wit every update. I said before, subs and deep water graphs will kill this I'm afraid.

[Hawker_gb]

8 hours ago, Floofz said:

 

It actualy doesnt, because with Smolensk you dont even need to be good at aiming, you can just fill the sky with fire and something will land.

Also Smolensk has carry capabilities, since you can pretty much lock down a flank with it. Conqueror not so much, not really Thunderer either. They cant hide and they cant tank, so if youre not careful you will die very quickly. Smolensk doesnt even need to be spotted to be able to do damage, and even if it does get spotted its amazingly difficult to hit if the player is good.

Actually does,and you can forget locking flank against good player either because you will be dead.

 

Conq has better tools to lock flank because of stupid HE plus zombie heal.

Conq can survive punisment while Smolensk is one shot with HE from Conqueror (done that multiple times)

 

Smolensk must carefully choose position to be usefull while Conq and Thunderer can park everywhere 20km away and spam HE.

 

Conq. and Thunderer are broken ships also so Russo-UK bias i suppose.

But that dont fit in narrative about Russian bias.

[Ronchabale]

22 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

1) Does even matchmaking exist??? 

In theory, yes but in reality, no.

22 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

2) Do you feel proud of your CV rework?

How could they, its a major f__kup 

22 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

3) Tons of people complain about the king of edited Smolensk. That ships has >19km range, an amazing reload time, extremely good AA, torps, smoke and 10km concealment....And what have you done about it? NOTHING as always...

Not that I have much trouble dealing with Smolensk with the small amount of games I have been playing lately

(Didnt have much trouble dealing with it before I got tired of the fun and entertaining "gameplay" either)

22 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

4) The rewards for the campains and generally for the missions are most of the times crap. I have to destroy 2 ships, be the first in the results table, do 200 ribbons and get what? 4 flags???? FFS get serious....

Hmm..

22 hours ago, Dark_Nemo said:

5) UU can be accessed only through the ridicoulus reasearch bureau points system???? REALLY????

?

[Floofz]

2 hours ago, Hawker_gb said:

Actually does,and you can forget locking flank against good player either because you will be dead.

 

Conq has better tools to lock flank because of stupid HE plus zombie heal.

Conq can survive punisment while Smolensk is one shot with HE from Conqueror (done that multiple times)

 

Smolensk must carefully choose position to be usefull while Conq and Thunderer can park everywhere 20km away and spam HE.

 

Conq. and Thunderer are broken ships also so Russo-UK bias i suppose.

But that dont fit in narrative about Russian bias.

 

Conq and Thunderer doesnt have anywhere near the dpm of a Smolensk. Not to mention its much harder to counterplay when you cant see it.

That being said no ship in the game will lock a flank against a good player.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, Floofz said:

 

Conq and Thunderer doesnt have anywhere near the dpm of a Smolensk. Not to mention its much harder to counterplay when you cant see it.

That being said no ship in the game will lock a flank against a good player.

 

That DPM is the problem, not just with the Smolensk but in general with the HE spammers. Unlike some HE spammers, it also has better ballistics.

[Dark_Nemo]

And this explains that in random games the only rule for the matchmaking is the ship tier:

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-guides/matchmaking-the-basics-making-teams/

 

"The matchmaker doesn't take into account such parameters as the upgrades and modules mounted on a ship, the number of skills and talents a Commander has, or a player's combat statistics"

 

 

[DFens_666]

31 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Unlike some HE spammers, it also has better ballistics.

 

Same as DMs tho. I still dont understand when that myth was born, or who did it in the first place.

Ofc its easy to hit stationary BBs

[DasTongle]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Same as DMs tho. I still dont understand when that myth was born, or who did it in the first place.

Ofc its easy to hit stationary BBs

No no no, you don't understand, we talk about same "skill level" matchmade players that means standing still BBs will be fine against a smolensk that won't hit them even standing still 

 

[Hawker_gb]

2 hours ago, Floofz said:

 

Conq and Thunderer doesnt have anywhere near the dpm of a Smolensk. Not to mention its much harder to counterplay when you cant see it.

That being said no ship in the game will lock a flank against a good player.

DPM?

Donr make me laugh

 

Smolensk player MUST take good position to utilize dpm while Conq and Thund can just park 20+ km away and spam HE with multiple fires upon hit.

 

Why is so hard to accept that Conq and Thund are also broken like Smolensk?

 

[DFens_666]

Just now, Hawker_gb said:

Why is so hard to accept that Conq and Thund are also broken like Smolensk?

 

Because they arent russian?

But thats what ive been saying aswell: Smolensk is just one amongst many, and due to powercreep, ofc it gets worse down the road. I think it started with RN CLs and their dakka from smoke. But against that, you could angle, and basicly everyone adapted to those, or even more, they just shoot into the smokes. Also they rather have limited range, while HE spamming conqs at 20+km were/are pretty much safe from everything.

Also what needs to be considered, is due to Smolensk low HE pen, it can farm even more damage than others. A Conq/Thunderer shooting HE at you dealing 10k+ damage, results in 50% damage you cant heal. A Smolensk getting more than 1 fire on a ship with FP has to shoot areas, where he will deal 0 damage.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Because they arent russian?

But thats what ive been saying aswell: Smolensk is just one amongst many, and due to powercreep, ofc it gets worse down the road. I think it started with RN CLs and their dakka from smoke. But against that, you could angle, and basicly everyone adapted to those, or even more, they just shoot into the smokes. Also they rather have limited range, while HE spamming conqs at 20+km were/are pretty much safe from everything.

Also what needs to be considered, is due to Smolensk low HE pen, it can farm even more damage than others. A Conq/Thunderer shooting HE at you dealing 10k+ damage, results in 50% damage you cant heal. A Smolensk getting more than 1 fire on a ship with FP has to shoot areas, where he will deal 0 damage.

 

I think we can agree then that the Smolensk is badly in need of a decent buff.

[Hawker_gb]

8 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

I think we can agree then that the Smolensk is badly in need of a decent buff.

Strawman argument wont change the fact that Smolensk is no more broken then UK Conq and Thund

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, Hawker_gb said:

Strawman argument wont change the fact that Smolensk is no more broken then UK Conq and Thund

 

You know, I have both of those, and I had Conqueror earlier, bought it back recently. IMO there's been some kind of change that has made it much more difficult to use the Conq for HE spamming now as opposed to earlier. I even tried to use the Thunderer for HE spamming because of its theoretically high fire chance, but reverted to normal AP shelling instead.

[Hawker_gb]

33 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

You know, I have both of those, and I had Conqueror earlier, bought it back recently. IMO there's been some kind of change that has made it much more difficult to use the Conq for HE spamming now as opposed to earlier. I even tried to use the Thunderer for HE spamming because of its theoretically high fire chance, but reverted to normal AP shelling instead.

I got all 3 of them.

 

Smolensk is harder to play then Conq or Thunderer.

But its Russian so bias.

Conq and Thund are UK so its ok.

 

Conq is terribly easy to play so its noobs most wanted ships.

In Smolensk noobs cannot play good because lack of knowledge about positioning.

 

Smolensk is fantastic in unicum hands,Conqueror is fantastic in any hands.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, Hawker_gb said:

I got all 3 of them.

 

Smolensk is harder to play then Conq or Thunderer.

But its Russian so bias.

Conq and Thund are UK so its ok.

 

Conq is terribly easy to play so its noobs most wanted ships.

In Smolensk noobs cannot play good because lack of knowledge about positioning.

 

Smolensk is fantastic in unicum hands,Conqueror is fantastic in any hands.

 

Yes, it seems Smolensk is a very versatile ship. Apart from the HE spamming problem, more of the cruisers should be more like it.

[WHITE_BEAR_cok]

 

After 4.5 years in the game, this is the first time I've seen this rug .... especially in ranked battles..5 fights - 5 defeats ,,,, every time the same ... the battle to end with 3-5 from my own team and the opposing team to be almost all ... So if the choice of players is not accidental then what is ... penalties from the game to me ...

 

Do you really want us to believe that everything works properly in this game ???
My answer is, tell these to children aged 10-15, because I am 58 years old and I don't believe the fairy tales you sold us ...

 

[Bratoev]

I had only a single loss today out of several games. Statistically speaking for someone has to lose for me to win. So take a break and try again.

[KillStealBoss]

On 4/30/2020 at 2:43 PM, ColonelPete said:

Tell that the Smolensk I took out with a triple citadel and normal pens in my Hindenburg recently.

Almost impossible to do in Bajie from less than 10km. 

[Camperdown]

13 hours ago, WHITE_BEAR_cok said:

 

After 4.5 years in the game, this is the first time I've seen this rug .... especially in ranked battles..5 fights - 5 defeats ,,,, every time the same ... the battle to end with 3-5 from my own team and the opposing team to be almost all ... So if the choice of players is not accidental then what is ... penalties from the game to me ...

 

Do you really want us to believe that everything works properly in this game ???
My answer is, tell these to children aged 10-15, because I am 58 years old and I don't believe the fairy tales you sold us ...

 

I find the Z-52 a very hard boat to play well in. Simply does not seem to do enough damage.