Matchmaking: The Basics Making Teams

[Nebuched]

22 hours ago, J4ckCarter said:

Why cant they not just have the permanent option for clan battles to play whenever they want? Matchmaking is just cr@p. I love my T8 ships but 95% of the time I am facing tier 10 and get blapped with one salvo which is so frustrating and annoying. I really want to stay with this game but more and more I am coming off an evening and being totally angry and frustrating with the complete idiots you get matchmade with. DDs just charging in or BBs camped so far off the map they may as well be AFK for all the value they add. This seems to be getting worse, not better. 

DD's get screamed at if they don't spot constantly. And then there's this guy attacking them if they do. 

[Tabris1980]

Until MM won't consider player skill, it will fail

[ColonelPete]

6 minutes ago, Tabris1980 said:

Until MM won't consider player skill, it will fail

You are playing the game for over 6000 matches, if that is failing...

[fatman_coma]

The matchmaker doesn't take into account such parameters as the upgrades and modules mounted on a ship, the number of skills and talents a Commander has, or a player's combat statistics.

 

I suppose that is why we get so many one sided slaughters- Not taking the players skill into account.  I had noticed that usually a massacre had one team with numerous highly ranked players whilst the other had few or even none.

 

Not really "balanced" is it.

 

Of course not taking modules into account explains the games where one side has radar and the other doesn't.

 

Basically Wargaming are saying they can't be bothered to balance the game properly and they are not even going to try.

[surfer_gr]

LOL 50 battles to rank out in sprint ranked that was painfull in termns of MM many times

 

[Tabris1980]

13 ore fa, ColonelPete ha scritto:

You are playing the game for over 6000 matches, if that is failing...

I am still playing because I know I can still improve: I like the game but it is stupid not to admin its flaws
Nothing change that a better MM would only improve the game for all players: I believe nobody likes win/lose in 5 minutes
 

[The_Lone_Neutron]

The biggest problem:

I lost too many games which are shitting my statistics because MM gave me just useless players.  I lost this morning 4 games with Venezia, being in all of them the top or 3-rd ranked  in the loser team. This cannot be statistics, statistic is 50-50 not lose all in row. I reset my French line of battleships. Same big big sh...t, I  lost 60-70 % of games with Normadie, being in almost all top 3. As result, I get under 20k xp in over 20 games. Is a shi..., something is wrong arranged and I suppose this is intended. 

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, n_costique said:

The biggest problem:

I lost too many games which are shitting my statistics because MM gave me just useless players.  I lost this morning 4 games with Venezia, being in all of them the top or 3-rd ranked  in the loser team. This cannot be statistics, statistic is 50-50 not lose all in row.

That is not how statistics work.

And MM gave you enough matches were you played badly and won anyway.

[The_Lone_Neutron]

This is not happening, after so many games my mistakes wins are not matching in numbers the lost games with bad teams, players having no idea what to do or playing tennis in war games...if play. And statistics  are not affected by lost games? Should I play just safe to keep my kill ratio over 1? Should I play just few ships s because I have better statistics? I am sick by so many "safe players" losing so many games, killing the scope of the game...this means the players are not the same, and they should not be mixed in same teams based on "herd immunity", "you will get 50-50 after 50.000 games"...

[anonym_O8tf3somLU6N]

21 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Yes.

Even now, 200 battles with 30% winrating would drop your overall winrate by 0.5% points. One could see that.

Had this happened in the past with less overall battles, then the drop would have been even steeper.

 

 

dude, who was your math teacher? tell him he's no good

it's one thing when you have 48% win rate and an other thing when you have 52% 

check my history correctly if you are so interested

[anonym_O8tf3somLU6N]

17 minutes ago, n_costique said:

This is not happening, after so many games my mistakes wins are not matching in numbers the lost games with bad teams, players having no idea what to do or playing tennis in war games...if play. And statistics  are not affected by lost games? Should I play just safe to keep my kill ratio over 1? Should I play just few ships s because I have better statistics? I am sick by so many "safe players" losing so many games, killing the scope of the game...this means the players are not the same, and they should not be mixed in same teams based on "herd immunity", "you will get 50-50 after 50.000 games"...

 

totally agree... the mm should be balanced by skill... otherwise the skill does not matter, only the MM... it is also frustrating to play with noobs all the time

I do not agree that over a number of games everybody will have 50% win rate... 

you can make different brackets... 45-50, 50-55, 55-60 or whatever.... if you are not at your bracket level you fall into an inferior one... if you get too many wins there, you promote and so forth

[anonym_O8tf3somLU6N]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

That is not how statistics work.

And MM gave you enough matches were you played badly and won anyway.

that is not true

[ColonelPete]

28 minutes ago, n_costique said:

This is not happening, after so many games my mistakes wins are not matching in numbers the lost games with bad teams, players having no idea what to do or playing tennis in war games...if play. And statistics  are not affected by lost games? Should I play just safe to keep my kill ratio over 1? Should I play just few ships s because I have better statistics? I am sick by so many "safe players" losing so many games, killing the scope of the game...this means the players are not the same, and they should not be mixed in same teams based on "herd immunity", "you will get 50-50 after 50.000 games"...

Did you count them?

The number should be pretty equal, considering your winrate.

17 minutes ago, aviaxis said:

dude, who was your math teacher? tell him he's no good

it's one thing when you have 48% win rate and an other thing when you have 52% 

check my history correctly if you are so interested

Then do the math yourself!

When you were at 48% winrate, you had much less matches. 200+ matches with 30% winrate would have made even a bigger dent in your stats.

But since YOU did not calculate that yourself, you did not know that.

13 minutes ago, aviaxis said:

that is not true

Wow, what a comprehensive argument.

If you would tell us why you think that, people could explain to you why you are wrong.

[111Virus]

Imo, the only way to compensate the lower Tier, is give more benefits, like xp or money a that players...

 

MM make me play in the lower Tier 8 times every 10 battles...and is very frustating...

Or limitating to 1 Tier lower in all battles.

 

Salu2 8)

[Zemeritt]

Yes, keep on blaming the MM for your failure

[The_Flying_Dutchmann]

THE MATCH MAKER SUCKS...

 

IT PAIRS THE MOST PATHETIC PLAYERS ON THEIR STUPID GAME AND MATCHES THEM WITH THE MOST STRONGEST...

 

 

AND THE BEST PART.. WG DOES NOT CARE

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[ColonelPete]

38 minutes ago, The_Flying_Dutchmann said:

THE MATCH MAKER SUCKS...

 

IT PAIRS THE MOST PATHETIC PLAYERS ON THEIR STUPID GAME AND MATCHES THEM WITH THE MOST STRONGEST...

 

 

AND THE BEST PART.. WG DOES NOT CARE

20200505_021524_PASC610-Puerto-Rico_37_Ridge.wowsreplay

Is that your way to tell us that your keyboard broke?

[anonym_O8tf3somLU6N]

17 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Did you count them?

The number should be pretty equal, considering your winrate.

Then do the math yourself!

When you were at 48% winrate, you had much less matches. 200+ matches with 30% winrate would have made even a bigger dent in your stats.

But since YOU did not calculate that yourself, you did not know that.

Wow, what a comprehensive argument.

If you would tell us why you think that, people could explain to you why you are wrong.

 

are you in a position where you are incapable to understand the reality, or is WG paying you to support their cause?

I don't understand why would you support so much a broken product with no interest.

[ColonelPete]

27 minutes ago, aviaxis said:

 

are you in a position where you are incapable to understand the reality, or is WG paying you to support their cause?

I don't understand why would you support so much a broken product with no interest.

Are you incapable to bring arguments and explain your position?

I do not understand why you would claim something without bringing proof or at least trying to explain it.

[J4ckCarter]

On 5/3/2020 at 7:10 AM, gabberworld said:

 

by looking your status compared by my status, you was very hurry to go tier 10

Possibly Gabberworld, although I am not sure what difference that makes as I am an active player in clan battles and in divisions with my team. I also often watch videos from the likes of Flamu, Mr Gibbins, Jingles and others to see what tactics, map strategies and how they play. I am interested to do better and play as often as i can. I see the same points around matchmaking across all tiers. 

 

Maybe I paid more into the game if that is your point which accelerated me through the tiers but I have spent a of time working and getting better at tactics but that only gets you so far if you just have terrible team play. 

[J4ckCarter]

On 5/3/2020 at 8:32 PM, Nebuched said:

DD's get screamed at if they don't spot constantly. And then there's this guy attacking them if they do. 

You are right Nebuched and actually chat is getting so toxic that I have actually turned it off in game as it was becoming part of the problem where you focus more on that than what you need to do to win the game. 

[LordSlasher]

On 5/1/2020 at 12:13 PM, MacArthur92 said:

This MM doesn't work well and causes frustration sometimes. 

it is wrong to only look at ship tiers..... you should look at tier AND player stats....what game dosent look at stats... come'on... F ship tier, the player stats are the most important part.... thats why the game makes people leave.... you can't go against a hardned veteran of the game... he will rip you a new

hole somewhere. thats why the gameplay sucks so hard.... more and more lately. before you could actually have a fun game...now its max 5 min 1/3 team dead, and then the hunt for the rest... you can not build a game on that MM. guess its soon time to find another game, wows and wot finished.

[111Virus]

I want to see a batle only with Smolensk...o wait i'll not be there ;P

 

Salu2 8)

[mns_2_tuga64]

On 5/1/2020 at 11:13 AM, MacArthur92 said:

This MM doesn't work well and causes frustration sometimes. 

 

[mns_2_tuga64]

After finishing 9 games 9 losses 0 victories still say that MM is good !! don't  .|. with me.
The MM is lousy no one is forced to play with the modified boat but there are things that completely distort what the creators of the game say is a portrait of WW2 ships.
A ship that can make fire every 5 seconds and is totally invisible as it can without attack?
Answer cannot.
I like this game and I have already invested in it but it is not worth it due to too many obscure factors.