[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #1 Posted April 29, 2020 Where are the rules or guidelines regarding chat bans? I have had a few 4 week bans now and intend to disable my chat as an experiment when the ban expires. I have a hunch I will still get banned without chatting. This should be useful in showing WG that people report you for anything, and I can hopefully get my next ban overturned. But I'm not overly optimistic. Just an experiment as I've said. Thanks, Danke, Tak for reading. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #2 Posted April 29, 2020 Do not use the F-keys, either! Just to be sure! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted April 29, 2020 No chat, no ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EXIL] Wizard27_1979 WoWs Wiki Team, Supertester 2,558 posts 18,077 battles Report post #4 Posted April 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said: I have a hunch I will still get banned without chatting. don't think so, as your ban is/was not done automatically but by review. So just disable chat and you won't be banned for chat-abuse ofc as you and devs won't find anything offensive... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #5 Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Wizard27_1979 said: but by review I was wondering this, that's why I'm looking for the rules regarding the chat bans. Do you know where I can find them please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSR] AkulaTSR Players 159 posts Report post #6 Posted April 29, 2020 The chat ban and reporting system are absolute nonsense to be honest. Makes adults look like children. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSR] AkulaTSR Players 159 posts Report post #7 Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said: I was wondering this, that's why I'm looking for the rules regarding the chat bans. Do you know where I can find them please? Just noticed your in Aberdeen mate , im just down the road in Scumdee. Ive also had a few 4 week bans. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #8 Posted April 29, 2020 @AkulaTSR, Ha ha ha Brilliant mate, the folks oot there in gaming land jist cannae take oor banter. Too effing sensitive.....ha ha ha. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSR] AkulaTSR Players 159 posts Report post #9 Posted April 29, 2020 Too many snowflakes mate , and you know us Dundonians , every second word in our sentence start with F , and sometimes you carry that into the game chat , along with the C word haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted April 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said: I was wondering this, that's why I'm looking for the rules regarding the chat bans. Do you know where I can find them please? There is no comprehensive rule list. We have dozens of threads were chat bans were discussed and WG gave feedback to specific rules. Either look for these threads or ask away, maybe we can help you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TSR] AkulaTSR Players 159 posts Report post #11 Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: There is no comprehensive rule list. Which basically means WG make it up as they go along Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #12 Posted April 29, 2020 Always @AkulaTSR, we use swear words just to emphasize things in everyday conversation. It's effing normal to us........but the rest of the world has not caught up with us yet And what happens, we get chat banned......mental. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #13 Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, AkulaTSR said: Which basically means WG make it up as they go along No. There are rules for the chat. They are public. The chat ban rules are not completly public, that people cannot game the system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #14 Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: There is no comprehensive rule list. We have dozens of threads were chat bans were discussed and WG gave feedback to specific rules. Either look for these threads or ask away, maybe we can help you. Well @ColonelPete, I did have a look but with so many discussions it would take too long to filter through to find what I'm after. Firstly, how are chat bans given. Automatically counting reports you get? By an actual person, in which case, does that person then have an unbiased opinion (hard to find) After being banned, I get banned real easy next time, so how is this ruled upon. I have tried to be careful after a 4 week ban but after a day I get banned again.....when I see Div mates behaving worse and they don't seem to get banned. I just basically need to see how the chat ban is governed. So I can then at least have a chance of not being continually banned. Thanks for any come back on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,113 battles Report post #15 Posted April 29, 2020 easy, don't play CV's 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #16 Posted April 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Salentine said: easy, don't play CV's I'd rather put pins in my eyes than play CV's....... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #17 Posted April 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: They are public. The chat ban rules are not completly public, So, are they public or not, if they are can you give me a link please matey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted April 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said: Firstly, how are chat bans given. Automatically counting reports you get? By an actual person, in which case, does that person then have an unbiased opinion (hard to find) After being banned, I get banned real easy next time, so how is this ruled upon. I have tried to be careful after a 4 week ban but after a day I get banned again.....when I see Div mates behaving worse and they don't seem to get banned. I just basically need to see how the chat ban is governed. So I can then at least have a chance of not being continually banned. One day bans are automatic by number of reports, all other get manually reviewed, these includes reports by ticket Manual review is by WG employee Consecutive rule breaking is more harshly punished, if there is a cooldown time and how long that is, is publicly unknown see 3. do not insult people 5 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said: So, are they public or not, if they are can you give me a link please matey There are chat rules and chat ban rules. They are not the same thing. Chat rules: Quote 2. Prohibitions, restrictions and conditions of use, for all game chats and channels You agree not to do any of the following while using the Game or any Wargaming.net game chat or channels. 2.01. Excessive profanity and inappropriate language is not welcome. It is suggested to ensure that the censor filter is switched on. The censor filter is not an excuse to break the existing game and chat rules, and excessive profanity will still be sanctioned. 2.02. Typing in such a way to bypass the censor filter is prohibited. 2.03. Insults, personal attacks, abuse or harassment are not tolerated on any level. 2.04. Derogatory comments based on race, nationality, religion, culture, sex, or sexual preference are prohibited. 2.05. Allusion of racial or national supremacy, as well as discriminative propaganda on any level is prohibited. 2.06. Spamming or posting nonsensical messages is prohibited in the game and battle chats. This also includes excessive use of caps, as well as excessive posting of battle results. 2.07. Begging/Soliciting in any form is prohibited in all game chats and channels. Begging/Soliciting includes but is not limited to: requesting users to transfer real money to the virtual wallet, asking for additional credits, and requests to transfer game gold. 2.08. All types of ads for sale, exchange, or other options for the transfer of accounts from one user to another violate EULA and are prohibited in all game chats and channels. 2.09. Distribution of user’s personal information without their consent is prohibited. 2.10. Slandering users or posting false information about users in all game chats and channels is prohibited. 2.11. Attempting to extort information from users, including information necessary for the use of their account is prohibited. 2.12. Discussion on, or linking to illegal activities, such as illicit drugs, is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to the linking of, or discussion on, websites dedicated to vulgar, racist, abusive, illegal, or any other content prohibited by the EULA, or linking to the resources that contain such advertisement or content. 2.13. Discussion on, or linking to unreleased content, cheats, hacks, Trojan horses, or malicious programs is prohibited. If you suspect that a cheat or hack exists or have any other problems or concerns on these topics, provide the necessary information to technical support. 2.14. Discussion on, advertising of, or linking to websites, in relation to the selling of gold, credits, promotional codes, leveling services, or game accounts is prohibited. 2.15. Threats of destroying allied player vehicles as well as the threats of disclosure of ally positions to enemies, regardless of whether the threat was carried out, or not, are prohibited. 2.16. Death threats and other threats of violence in real life, directed either against individual users, moderators or administration of the project, are prohibited. 2.17. All types of advertising messages are prohibited in general and battle chats. With the exception that WOT related advertising such as platoon forming, company recruiting, clan recruiting is permitted with the following restrictions. It may contain no more than three (3) lines on a standard chat window, and be posted no more than once every 15 minutes within the garage chats or once per game in battle. 2.18. Mentioning and discussing of other games is permitted, but it should be discontinued if the character of the discussion turns into at a direct promotion of another gaming project. 2.19. Discussion of social, religious, political, illegal or other controversial topics that may create offense is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to negative portrayal of religious and political figures. 2.20. Discussion of decisions or sanctions made by Moderators or Administration in all game chats and channels is prohibited. 2.21. Any kind of provocations for other players to violate the EULA as well as additions to it is strictly prohibited. 2.22. Any statements or other actions that violate any applicable laws or regulations are strictly prohibited and will be strongly suppressed. 2.23. Any attempt to create nicknames, groups, or organized communities of players associated in any fashion with organizations which violate any applicable laws or regulations is prohibited. This includes but not limited to, direct or indirect references to Nazi symbols, abbreviations and well known leaders. 2.24. The use of copyrighted, trademarked, patented, classified, or restricted material or information and the violation of any rights of any party, including rights of privacy or publicity is prohibited. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/announcement/17-world-of-warships-game-rules/ Also found at the top of the forum.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #19 Posted April 29, 2020 Vor 42 Minuten, AkulaTSR sagte: Too many snowflakes mate , and you know us Dundonians , every second word in our sentence start with F , and sometimes you carry that into the game chat , along with the C word haha I smell chat ban bias! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #20 Posted April 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: There are chat rules and chat ban rules. They are not the same thing. Thanks, but I was more interested in how it was policed as opposed to what I'm not allowed to do. Ach, it's my own fault for being Scottish, we swear a lot in normal conversation so it is inevitable that this will transfer into game chat. It's not so much that I'm trying to abuse people, perhaps more trying to emphasive certain issues in game and swear words convey this better, speaking as a Scotsman Thanks for trying to help me out with the chat ban policy. Just one more thing though @ColonelPete, how do I know that what you say regarding the chat ban policing is true. I'd just like WG to make these things clear. Cheers anyway matey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #21 Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, Captain_Breeze said: Just one more thing though @ColonelPete, how do I know that what you say regarding the chat ban policing is true. I'd just like WG to make these things clear. Cheers anyway matey. As I said, feel free to do a forum search and read the threads about that topic and look for the posts by WG employees. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #22 Posted April 29, 2020 A lot of those rules are highly subjective, extremely vague and lack definitions. I suggest not to use chat at all, including the F-keys (use of them could violate 2.03, 2.06 or 2.07). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #23 Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, MementoMori_6030 said: A lot of those rules are highly subjective, extremely vague and lack definitions. I suggest not to use chat at all, including the F-keys (use of them could violate 2.03, 2.06 or 2.07). Only if a person writes a manual ticket and an WG employee thinks you overdid it. Otherwise you cannot get chatbanned for F-key use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #24 Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: A lot of those rules are highly subjective, extremely vague and lack definitions. I suggest not to use chat at all, including the F-keys (use of them could violate 2.03, 2.06 or 2.07). Totally agree with you mate. That's why I wanted to know exactly how it is policed by WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GURKA] Captain_Breeze Players 734 posts 32,141 battles Report post #25 Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, ColonelPete said: Otherwise you cannot get chatbanned for F-key use. We just have your word for this and WG don't have this written down in the public domain. Not trying to say your word is wrong in anyway, just that you are not WG. 57 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: 2.06. Spamming or posting nonsensical messages is prohibited in the game and battle chats. This also includes excessive use of caps, as well as excessive posting of battle results. Spamming F keys could cause a chat ban, could it not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites