[Poll] Will you buy new IJN Tier X DD "Hayate" for 2M "FreeXP" ?

[159Hunter]

No thx, will save free XP for new RU cruisers. They are guaranteed stronk and fun to play

[NothingButTheRain]

5 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

IMHO this whole "inflation" story about WoWs economy is very very exaggerated...

 

Why?

 

Because:

• there are no "Dunkirk" and "Cherry Blossom" scenarios that enabled nice farming of "Free XP" and "Elite Captain XP" - those are missing for 1+ years!
• it is nice to have ability to hang more flags on your ship - but the fact is that rare special flags are just that - RARE (i.e. you can't buy them - you have to earn them or get lucky and that is very hard to do)!

 

Leo "Apollo11"

A friend of mine got them from buying the Yamamoto or Bismarck containers.

Btw, narai has also been nerfed several times and the tier 6 op's were never that profitable to begin with.

 

Most events that can be profitable are less so due to the inability to mount a custom camo (like the halloween scenarios, 1st of april, twilight and filth battlemodes).

[NothingButTheRain]

5 hours ago, Shaka_D said:

It's definitely in WG's best interests to allow us to mount more flags and even to raise the cost of free xp ships. Think about why.

I have thought about this.

 

My guess would be that this way WG leaves randoms unaffected, except from being able to mount more economic signals. This should have the adverse effect of getting newbs into high tiers more quickly as they play more high tier ships (and not just their Tirpitz or Friesland anymore while they are still busy grinding through tiers 4 and 5 and stuff ).

 

It is also apparent WG wanted to specifically target the more skilled farmers and at least somewhat leave the more casual farmers alone a bit more.

 

And it seems kinda apparent WG thinks there's too much economic boosters in the game and too many people with too much FXP and XP boosters. I may arguably be one of them, though I think my stash of FXP is fairly limited these days. I don't have like 6m FXP anymore or how much I had back then.

[Ocsimano18]

[loppantorkel]

6 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

IMHO this whole "inflation" story about WoWs economy is very very exaggerated...

 

Why?

 

Because:

• there are no "Dunkirk" and "Cherry Blossom" scenarios that enabled nice farming of "Free XP" and "Elite Captain XP" - those are missing for 1+ years!
• it is nice to have ability to hang more flags on your ship - but the fact is that rare special flags are just that - RARE (i.e. you can't buy them - you have to earn them or get lucky and that is very hard to do)!

Depends on how you view it. The game has been out for 5 years soon and there's obviously a lot more FreeXP around compared to when Missouri was released. It's not like people haven't willingly spent 2M FreeXP on Småland. These ships are probably supposed to be fairly RARE and not Free for All.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

17 hours ago, loppantorkel said:

Depends on how you view it. The game has been out for 5 years soon and there's obviously a lot more FreeXP around compared to when Missouri was released. It's not like people haven't willingly spent 2M FreeXP on Småland. These ships are probably supposed to be fairly RARE and not Free for All.

 

True...

 

BTW, according to "ProShips.ru" (which apparently counts all game modes that exist - contrary to other WoWs stats sites) the proliferation on EU is as follows:

 

https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-

 

• Hayate = 257 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)
• Småland = 2.088 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)
• Friesland = 14.280 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[kfa]

14 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

True...

 

BTW, according to "ProShips.ru" (which apparently counts all game modes that exist - contrary to other WoWs stats sites) the proliferation on EU is as follows:

 

https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-

 

• Hayate = 257 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)
• Småland = 2.088 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)
• Friesland = 14.280 unique Player IDs (this, most likely, includes all CCs, WG employees and all other Super-testers)

 

Leo "Apollo11"

I hardly beleive those numbers, there is 5 Hayates just in our clan. 

[Spartan_Renegade]

I think I'll spend my FXP on resetting tech tree lines. Ohio seems like a better investment. 

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

3 minutes ago, kfa said:

I hardly beleive those numbers, there is 5 Hayates just in our clan. 

 

The "ProShips.ru" numbers are usually 1 day old... so the tomorrow's numbers will be higher and include the purchases people made on the 1st day of ship availability for general population...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[kfa]

1 hour ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

The "ProShips.ru" numbers are usually 1 day old... so the tomorrow's numbers will be higher and include the purchases people made on the 1st day of ship availability for general population...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Oh, so that 257 is all most likely test accounts and CCs. 

Please post the day1 stats later :) 

[300ConfirmedKills]

I don't see anything better to spend my free XP on, so I will buy Hayate. She doesn't look particularly interesting to play though, so I'll hold off until I know about any potential further free XP ships before they remove Hayate.

[MementoMori_6030]

Reload booster might be the bait for some to buy her, but overall she appears to be a downgrade from Shimakaze.

[Jvd2000]

Not interested at neither 2m FXP DD’s. First, I am not really a dd player. Second 2m FXP is stupidly expensive. You can level 2 complete silver lines and go far with a 3rd one for that amount. 
 

Regarding all the current and past FXP ships:

 

Nelson:375k FXP . A no brainer, still available.

Missouri: 750k FXP no longer available, but still a good price.

Krohnstadt: 750 FXP: ok- ish in my book for this price ( worse then Alaska But 1/4 cheaper) no longer available.

Musashu 750k FXP: ok, but it was also available for coal? No longer available.

Alaska 1m FXP: Increase in price...ok cruiser but 1 m? I only bought it because I had the FXP refund from resetting my cv’s.

Friesland: 1 m FXP: ok, guilty, only bought it because I am Dutch..Did appreciate the ship for enabling me to get the more easy goals in missions and current campaign since I lack other tier8+ EU DD’s.

Azuma: 1 m FXP: would have bought the ship with much reluctance...in the end got it with a container during Xmas...wohoo saved FXP!

 

Currently saved up to 820k FXP after spending 250k on boosting regrind lines. Intend to keep it around that amount to have FXP handy for a tier 9 FXP ship that might/ might not come.

 

 

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 hour ago, kfa said:

Oh, so that 257 is all most likely test accounts and CCs. 

Please post the day1 stats later :) 

 

I will...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Sehales]

8 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

The "ProShips.ru" numbers are usually 1 day old... so the tomorrow's numbers will be higher and include the purchases people made on the 1st day of ship availability for general population...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Test ships do not count towards any statistics and cannot be tracked via API. After release, ships only show up in stats if they were actually played at least once.

So to conclude, if there are let's say 2k collectors buying the ship but keep playing their favourite other ships, you will not be able to see it. Neither do, e.g. I show up as owning Hayate, even though she is in fact in my port.

[Mokolotivet1]

2 mill free xp is to much. Will never buy a ship to that price unless it can fly, sub, OP in every aspect of the game, clean my house and making me dinner every day

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

14 hours ago, Sehales said:

Test ships do not count towards any statistics and cannot be tracked via API. After release, ships only show up in stats if they were actually played at least once.

So to conclude, if there are let's say 2k collectors buying the ship but keep playing their favourite other ships, you will not be able to see it. Neither do, e.g. I show up as owning Hayate, even though she is in fact in my port.

 

I see your point...

 

 

BTW, have you played at least 1 battle with your "Hayate" ?

 

 

According to "WoWs Stats & Numbers":

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/501371560,Sehales/

 

you didn't...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

According to "ProShips.ru" from today:

 

https://proships.ru/stat/eu/s/99999-

 

• Hayate = 297 unique Player IDs (i.e. increase of just 40)

 

 

BTW,  the "WoWs Stats & Numbers" list just 582 (Random) battles in her:

 

https://wows-numbers.com/ship/3760076496,Hayate/

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Spartan_93]

I like the idea of a gunbased Shimakaze, better gunreload but fewer torps, but the relativ bad concealment spoils it. The concealment is on the same level like Z-52 and should be on 6,1km minimum detection range. Even the Grosovoi have better concealment.

 

For that pricetag the stats are not good enough.

[Peffers]

19 hours ago, Sehales said:

Test ships do not count towards any statistics and cannot be tracked via API. After release, ships only show up in stats if they were actually played at least once.

So to conclude, if there are let's say 2k collectors buying the ship but keep playing their favourite other ships, you will not be able to see it. Neither do, e.g. I show up as owning Hayate, even though she is in fact in my port.

spending 2 mil free exp and then not playing the ship, I bet there are 1,000s of players out there doing just that.

[Ocsimano18]

I have seen a couple of CCs playing her. They talk trash about her, but then she plays like a gem.

[SirAmra]

Nope. I keep my free xp these days. I buy boates for coal if anything. But I have so many ships I never play that I don't care to spend my earned free xp.

[Mikhail800]

Hell NO! 

[valrond]

Not a change. I passed on the other overpriced tier 10 DD for freexp. The price doesn't make sense. Tier 9 premiums are now 1 million freexp, they used to be 750k. Not paying double, even if it was great.

[Gloatover]

Why 2M free exp for a "hybrid" ship? You need to choice modules and captain skills for torpedo or artillery then it's not hybrid...

 

You can buy Shimakaze and Harugumo together for 1.4M Free Exp and each has own modules and captains...

 

So why we still need a garbage "hybrid" Hayate for 2M free exp???

 

Stop drinking vodka more...