[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #151 Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, a_steaming_pile_of_ship said: Furutaka/Kirov/Omaha/Exeter/Konigsberg say hello Tier 5 cruisers have a high skill floor, at least compared to tier 5 battleships. They can certainly seem rubbish if you are not experienced with armor models, dodging, and positioning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragontrn Players 220 posts 8,336 battles Report post #152 Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, EnacheV said: Omaha ? lol , thats a walking 1 shoot to be deleted ship, not gonna play pvp in it Dont show your broadside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] EnacheV Players 146 posts 2,112 battles Report post #153 Posted March 23, 2021 anyway sorry for somehow derailing this anyway for the Thunderer's gimick (fires) maybe the guy 5 posts above has a small point, sometimes firing AP has a better impact and letting smaller ships set the fires. but thats a player skill problem, not a game design and balance problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #154 Posted March 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, EnacheV said: german one is nice indeed Omaha ? lol , thats a walking 1 shoot to be deleted ship, not gonna play pvp in it cant comment on the others yet except from looking at their stats and wiki pages and not impressed tbh Depends on how you play her... Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragontrn Players 220 posts 8,336 battles Report post #155 Posted March 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, EnacheV said: anyway sorry for somehow derailing this anyway for the Thunderer's gimick (fires) maybe the guy 5 posts above has a small point, sometimes firing AP has a better impact and letting smaller ships set the fires. but thats a player skill problem, not a game design and balance problem I suggest you to stop talking about things you don't know about, AP is never a problem when people play smart, you can angle to minimal the dmg, dont forget you have to aim in specific areas to max DMG, but HE is brain dead, you deal dmg everywhere including fire GEt you into t10 BB in PVP and then we talk, you haven't experienced it yet so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #156 Posted March 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, EnacheV said: i checked it out on wiki very nice ship at tier 5 cruisers kinda suk tbh Well, I can almost guarantee that you won't like it. Because it's far from OP despite what you think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] Bybernd Players 183 posts 17,804 battles Report post #157 Posted March 23, 2021 Yes nerf Thunderer but, first nerf Bourgogne, Shikishima, Ohio, Slava, Kremlin, Vermont, Conquerer, no wait, first nerf these freaking russian battle cruisers with their AP. They steal fires? They enable fires and floodings! How often do you encounter ships that are oversaturated with fires? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,382 battles Report post #158 Posted March 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bybernd said: Yes nerf Thunderer but, first nerf Bourgogne, Shikishima, Ohio, Slava, Kremlin, Vermont, Conquerer, no wait, first nerf these freaking russian battle cruisers with their AP. They steal fires? They enable fires and floodings! How often do you encounter ships that are oversaturated with fires? Bourgogne, Shikishima, Ohio and Slava are resource heavy ships that only experienced players can acquire. For this reason they will naturally have higher stats even if they are not OP. Thunderer has an easy mode of simply firing HE from range. It doesn't win battles but it does cause big damage numbers and is frustrating to play against. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] SV_Kompresor Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 5,868 posts Report post #159 Posted March 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bybernd said: Yes nerf Thunderer but, first nerf Bourgogne, Shikishima, Ohio, Slava, Kremlin, Vermont, Conquerer, no wait, first nerf these freaking russian battle cruisers with their AP. They steal fires? They enable fires and floodings! How often do you encounter ships that are oversaturated with fires? Yes, they should all be nerfed. But why should they be nerfed first when thunderer is the worst one out of all of them? Also what russian battlecruisers with their ap? The only one I can think of that fits the criteria is stalingrad, but even that thing has massive weaknesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,428 battles Report post #160 Posted March 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bybernd said: Yes nerf Thunderer but, first nerf Bourgogne, Shikishima, Ohio, Slava, Kremlin, Vermont, Conquerer Dont look at wows-numbers.com. It doesnt give you a complete picture. Or would you say that Salem is in dire need of a buff? Spoiler Better watch weekly stats here: http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/shipstatswk/svr/eu/ship_20210320.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #161 Posted March 23, 2021 3 hours ago, EnacheV said: its just simple logic, apply to any game there is a difference between OP mechanics that needs to be tuned down or up versus whiny players crying about things (very particular instances, not always encountered, not consistent) that limit their success in their favorite vehicle. Guess what, the 2nd situation is working as intended. Well look at that success! Look how popular firespammers are! Maybe even you with your simple logic might find smth odd: Because, and you cant know that, Thunderer is even insanely broken when stripped of its HE. Giving 45x mm Guns Cruiser dispersion and a short reload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
