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Does anyone know when WoWS  plans to introduce an Eu Cruiser tech tree line? I, for one, would like to see an Eu Cruiser tech tree line.

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I think there aren't enough cruisers to make a whole line of cruisers, but you can put in some prems. 

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I think there are enough Ships for a European Cruiser Line. I Think they will find enough BBs for a European Line too. They plan for 25 Years they say.

This must be filled with new Lines and Gimmicks, so the european Cruiser Line comes after the southamerican DD Line.

 

This Ships can be in the Cruiser Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarias-class_cruiser    

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_De_Ruyter_(1935) 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Java_(1921)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Kronor-class_cruiser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Danae_(D44)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Dragon_(D46)

 

Rest are Paperships or Alternative Timeline Ships. 

 

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6 hours ago, piritskenyer said:

I think there aren't enough cruisers to make a whole line of cruisers, but you can put in some prems. 

Oh Boi, just look at the Glorious Liberation Navy of the USSSR!

 

Have a paper sketch from a child of a russian Star Destroyer? Fine, its "sikrit dokjument", lets implement it into the game.

 

Other navies have to aligt to historical accuracy though.

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1 hour ago, Exorite said:

Oh Boi, just look at the Glorious Liberation Navy of the USSSR!

 

Have a paper sketch from a child of a russian Star Destroyer? Fine, its "sikrit dokjument", lets implement it into the game.

 

Other navies have to aligt to historical accuracy though.

 

That is somewhat true, but even so, there is a bit of a lack of source material for more or less tier 8-X. You can scrape together lowtier ships quite easily, mainly based on ships from the Netherlands, Sweden, and Austria-Hungary, with Spain contributing one or two ships, but for high tiers you are pretty much boned, unless you want to take a full left turn and have something like Design 1027 at TX after a line of overwhelmingly 6"-armed ships. Ships like De Zeven Provinciën class can be stretched to fit T9 I'd say. I'll list the available cruisers out later (I'm on the phone rn), but there is a considerable hole on the higher tiers and a considerable overpopulation for low tier candidates. 

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1 hour ago, piritskenyer said:

You can scrape together lowtier ships quite easily, mainly based on ships from the Netherlands, Sweden, and Austria-Hungary, with Spain contributing one or two ships, but for high tiers you are pretty much boned

Surprisingly it's Spain that comes to your rescue in that case. If Kijkduin can go as far up as TIX and would actually be a good fit at TVIII, Spain has the designs for higher tiers that others do not, such as Ansaldo XII which, if not put in an italian branch, could make a decent TVIII or IX, and the project 138 armed with 203mm, enough material to be stretched to TX without it feeling too weird.

My only regret is that provided Ansaldo XII goes at TIX and the project 138 to TX, I have been unable to find regular heavy cruiser for TVIII, so a branch would be Cl to TVIII then CA ? Something like that, I guess. But that means not fitting in Canarias which is sad considering that's one of the EU cruiser that actually existed.

 

Spain almost (almost) has what's needed to have her own branch of DD and cruisers. So if you take her out of the EU ships pool to give her a specialized branch, then yes, you're starting to lack high tier ships. Maybe the Dutch of Swede have in their archive a weird cruiser design that could be used. After all they DID drawn aircraft carriers -.-

Now that I think of it I wonder how the hell I'd tier this Greek DNC design with the 254mm guns. It's more a Deutschland than anything else so it's a bit hard...

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It was told that European Tech tree will consist from Polish, Dutch, Swedish and Austro-Hungarian line ( not sure about Spain ) but all swearing of WG should be taken with grain of salt. 

 

There is definitely not problem with European cruisers as first paper could be TX which is much better than majority of tech trees. 

TII. Zenta 

TIII. Novara / Midilli as premium

TIV. Java / ORP Dragon as premium

TV. Reina Victoria Eugenia as Navarra after 1936 refit  / Tromp as premium as Dutch Yahagi / De Ruyter as premium

TVI. Almirante Cevera / Tre Kronor / Jakob van Heemsckerck as Dutch Atlanta as premium and Mendes Nunez as Spanish Atlanta.

TVII. Gota Lejon as buffed Tre Kronor / Canarias in last variant with single funnel + Baleares as premium with armament from many countries.

TVIII. Eendracht - early variant of project of last Dutch CL

TIX. De Zeven Provinciën - late variant of last Dutch CL as was completed / Project 1047 as free exp/coal/steel freemium as rest of Large Cruisers are.

TX. Project

All balancing using parametres of ships and their consumables.

 

With battleships there is more problem:

TIII. Jaime I

TIV. Reina Victoria Eugenia - project of Spanish Battleship / Yavuz Sultan Selim as premium

TV. Vasilefs Konstantinos - not finished Greek battleship

TVI. Sultan Osman-i Evvel - project of Turkish battleship finished as... HMS Agicnourt

TVII.

TVIII. Project of Spanish variant of Vittorio Veneto class in example with USN 127mm AA guns ect.

TIX.

TX.

 

There are also possible European carriers - unbelivabely more real than joke as German CV's :Smile_teethhappy:- strange that nobody pointed this... :Smile_veryhappy:

 

TIV. Karel Doorman - first Dutch carrier - escort carrier fits well at TIV

TVI. Dedalo II - first Spanish carrier - Independence class ( return into TVI )

TVIII. Karel Doorman II - Colossus class

TX. project

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Sweden also has HMS Fylgia (the worlds smallest armored cruiser) and HMS Gotland (A-hull with catapult and B-hull with better AAA)

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You can't have HMS Danae :fish_viking: :cap_rambo::Smile_izmena: Mind you if it came out on the Royal Navy line it would get get  the usual Nerf Hammer Battering so it would probably be for the better :))

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We could just fake some "sikrit documents" of any EU t10 that had been recently and accidentally found in a barn in eastern Moldavia. 

 

If the russians can get it, we should too...

 

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My thoughts on a EU cruiser line;

 

The Austro-Hungarian Admiral Spaun/Novaras are rather similar to the Dresden or Nino Bixo, so that's my T2 pick

 

The Swedish Fylgia protected cruiser would be a fun T3.

 

The Dutch Java seems a logical fit for T4

 

The Swedish Tre Kronors are cool ships and roughly equivalent to the R. Montecuccoli, hence T5

 

The Dutch De Zeven Provincien is quite comparable to La Galissonniere, so let's put that at T6

 

The Spanish Canarias class were improved Counties, so they should fit at T7.

 

The Dutch looked at a 16,000 ton, 9 x 240mm heavy cruiser proposal whilst coming up with the 1047 design and that looks like it might do for T8.

 

The Spanish Project 138 heavy cruiser design that could be made to fit into T9.

 

And the actual 1047 design is the obvious fit for T10 - yes it's a super cruiser, but so are Stalingrad and Puerto Rico and seeing as I'm not WG, I think it would be nice to have a non-premium Super Cruiser somewhere in the game.  It would probably want to be the smaller, 25,000 ton proposals rather than the later 30,000 ton design.

 

Still - real ships all the way up to T7 isn't too bad and the T10 design is hardly obscure...

 

For Premiums, it would be fun to get the Swedish Sverige and Gotland in somehow, and the Dutch De Ruyters and Spanish Almirante Cervera are both interesting and historical enough to justify a premium.

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