Update 0.9.3.1: Hayate for Free XP

[ElScorpion]

4 minutes ago, WarshipFoxy said:

yes thats why they are cheeper than a tier 10.....

agree  but double price for 1 tier more is insane

[ElScorpion]

8 minutes ago, Tall_Toot said:

What was that, a sale for permanent camo's of the Tier X's so you can play them without needing premium?

 

Oh, you said 'just another made up money sink', my hearing isn't what it used to be......

so buy a permanent camo  or use special camos if u have tons of them ... (see MILK)  :)

[Major_Boobage_]

31 minutes ago, ElScorpion said:

we vote for free xp but not for 2M 

(MISOURI - KRONST kosts   900K -1M free xp)

so WHY 2M for a mediorce DD ?? the only reason is THE MILK !!

Missouri and Kronstadt were 750k fxp back in the day. So was Musashi

[gabberworld]

why this hayate  not looks like hayate  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Hayate_(1925)

 

why they call this hayate when it looks like Suzutsuki ???

[FidelisRaven]

2 million? Lol no thx. 

[Datz68]

Any idea when will be conversion rate 1:35 for Freexp? It cost now 80 000 dublons 

[Pikkozoikum]

Well, played that ship now a few games

 

It's not a gunboat, it's not a torpedoboat.

The guns are too bad for a gunboat (21mm pen with HE), and the Concealment too bad for a Torpedoboat (6.1km - and also IJN torps...)

 

So it's obviously a hybrid, and that's what we actually all wanted. But the design is wrong. When we play a hybrid DD, we expect the best of Torp- and Gun-DDs. But Hayate is the opposite, she gets the worst of both. Slow, sluggish and bad concealment, combined with the IJN Torps, which can hit pretty hard, but also easily spotted. The guns fire fast, when taking the modules and skills (3.2s), but they also shatter a lot even against cruisers (21mm pen). This ship really needs the 5.9km concealment imo

 

A hybrid dd with all the downsides of a gun dd.

[CaiusJuliusBrutus]

2 millions for a bad dd... Drugs are so bad....

 

[Pikkozoikum]

8 minutes ago, Admirality said:

Any idea when will be conversion rate 1:35 for Freexp? It cost now 80 000 dublons 

I would rather go with research points. Especially with the double research points bonus is usable. And then use EP Flags and Camos to regrind the line. I did that over time always with the double bonus, when it was avaiable

[Pikkozoikum]

32 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

why this hayate  not looks like hayate  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Hayate_(1925)

 

why they call this hayate when it looks like Suzutsuki ???

Ship name often get multiple used. That happend in real life, but also Wargamin does that with ships, that didn't exist. Hayate in the Wargaming version never existed, it's based on a prototype 127 mm twin gun (those existed), and Wargaming took those guns and put it on a Shimakaze. It's not unrealistic, that they would use those prototype guns on a DD like Shimakaze.

 

Thus this ship is fictional, the guns are not, but were never on a ship. But it's realistic, that this ship could have existed in theory

[Pikkozoikum]

59 minutes ago, Greyshark said:

With camo and signals it's not that hard to get 10000 free xp in one battle:

I don't have 200 of the 777% signals xD

[defender128]

#PaytoRico never forget

[WarshipFoxy]

48 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I don't have 200 of the 777% signals xD

You don't even need those...

 

[WarshipFoxy]

3 minutes ago, defender128 said:

#PaytoRico never forget

Why ?! there is no time limitation yet so no need to pay for you progress....

[ElScorpion]

1 hour ago, Samueltastic said:

Missouri and Kronstadt were 750k fxp back in the day. So was Musashi

u are correct mate

 

[Panocek]

12 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

There is no hybrid DD for the IJN, so it's actually something special for IJN players, though the stats are not that great, it seems. With 5.9 concealment, it would be great.

*cough* Kitakaze *cough*

 

25 minutes ago, WarshipFoxy said:

Why ?! there is no time limitation yet so no need to pay for you progress....

Missouri, Musashi, Kronshtadt also had no time limit initially

[cimmerit26]

 

So little life is left to the game, so that you only think about milking the cow? Of course, for a game that has potential, you are going to kill it with your greed.

Cheers.

[ThisGameNeedsAnOverhaul]

lol maybe if it was 1 mil fexp then yes. but 2 mil hell no, also this ship should come with smoke and reloader in slot 2 and 3. not choosing between the two... Meta is already fucked up for DD. and with the subs you get perma spotted which is OP

[gabberworld]

18 minutes ago, Bombguy said:

 and with the subs you get perma spotted which is OP

 

yes it can be that allot players start play subs and forget the dd, atleast with subs you not need worry about cv planes

[Pikkozoikum]

I got outgunned by Öland... though I missed a few salvos, but still... xD

[Toivia]

16 hours ago, Black_Sheep1 said:

The price for the Hayate was clear when the Smaland got into the game for 2 Mil. Free XP. So no surprise there. And since ppl voted for Free XP, with the argument that it is so much easier to get then coal. I wonder how many which voted for free xp are now complaining about the price. The community basically got what they wanted.

You know, I'm one of those people. Sadly my mistake was using logic.

You see, when a T9 coal ship first costs about 170-180k coal, later T9 ships jump to ~230k coal and T10 ships cost around 240-250k coal, you don't expect FreeXP T10 ships to suddenly have their price double that of T9 FreeXP ships. Mind you double of the already inflated 1M FreeXP price instead of the original 750k FreeXP price of Missouri or Kronshtadt.

I mean not even Steel ships (had) got that absurd of a price hike between T9 and T10. The latest T9 (Neustrashimy) was still more than two thirds of the price of the newest T10s, not just half the price. Even that would put Hayate and Smaland at 1,5 million FreeXP, which I considered the highest possible amount imaginable and already a rip-off. Around 1,25-1,3M FreeXP seemed like a fair price hike over T9 FreeXP ships at the time.

 

Imagine my rage when Smaland got instead announced for 2 million and now this.

 

[Raging_Beaver]

2 mil? Go forth and multiply WG.

[Alin_709]

So ... entire 0.9.3.1 update is to introduce the hayate. And if I do not like hayate? Still need to make update to game client. Not nice WG!

[Toivia]

4 hours ago, gabberworld said:

streamer flamuu i see one day the 10k free xp at battle but he is cc so i guess he have some extra boosts what we not have

If you stack all bonuses (now you can with unlimited special and economic signals), you get north of 20k FreeXP per battle. Hmm, didn't actually use the asian super rare camos lately. I guess with those you'd get even more still.

 

But as pointed out by others, even this silly price is still easier to reach than 250k coal simply because coal is timegated per day (3 resource containers and 200+200 from dailies) and by other missions. FreeXP is "the more you play, the more you get" resource, irrelevant of you play all day once a week or every day for just half an hour.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

You saved me 2 mil Free XP, cheers, WG!