Which T8 premium would you pick?

[Verblonde]

8 hours ago, Sirius_IV said:

So I thought what T8 premium you people would put your money/coupons worth in.

It depends rather on the sorts of things you like, and what would be a useful captain trainer (I haven't looked at which ships you already have either). That said (speaking as a sub-par player, and DD main):

• DD: Cossack and Loyang, the latter (or maybe Kidd) if you expect to face lots of planes. Cossack is perhaps my favourite T8, but you are in trouble if a CV takes an interest in you. Get Harekaze too, if it ever comes back.
• Cruisers: Atago, and maybe Eugen; I find the heal and useful torps (with firing angles that don't broadcast that you're about to fire to the next solar system) on the former to make it one of the few cruisers I actually like at T8.
• BBs: MA is great fun (but generally wants a specialist captain for maximum giggles), but I might go with Tirpitz; quite apart from anything else, a lot of opponents will assume you're a hopeless newbie and underestimate you. Being very hard to citadel is helpful too.
• CVs: I'm really not qualified here, but GZ is an absolute hoot in Coop - mortal combat with secondaries is glorious (although it would be colossally stupid against real people, of course).

[gabberworld]

i would take the "The Great Gorgon"

and maybe also Magnu-s

[Ocsimano18]

With the latest match making "improvements" T8 gets into bottom tier matches most if the time. Brawlers like Massa and Tirpitz rarely shine in those long range shooting contests. I tend to do well with Atago, due to it's excellent concealment. A DD like cossack can also handle being bottom tier.

[Otowi]

23 hours ago, Sirius_IV said:

May or may not be bored of waiting for Siegfried and Borodino to come back into the development spotlights.

 

So I thought what T8 premium you people would put your money/coupons worth in. 

 

It only counts for T8 premiums you can still get so Kuznetsov and Enterprise don't count. 

 

My personal pick goes to Bayard or Gascogne. But ive heard Gascogne is just pure garbage. Bayard seems interesting though so does Lenin. 

But don't wanna go on a buying streak. 

Halp

Gascogne is a very fast battleship with a speed boost consumable. I find her to be an ok ship, but not really spectacular in any way.

 

For me there's two stand out ships, Massachusetts and Tirpitz. Massa is great fun with a secondary build, and she is a forgiving ship. Guns usually behave.

Tirpitz is also good with a secondary build, and is one of the few BB's that have torpedoes. Her main battery guns are pretty nice.

 

Can also go with Alabama as an outside choice. Again a forgiving ship, and the main battery guns are actually not bad.

[MadBadDave]

17 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

So, my picks would be:

 

CVs: Kaga

BBs: Massa, Tipritz, Alabama, Lenin

CAs/CLs: Bayard, Irian, Mainz, Atago

DDs: Cossack, Kidd, Asashio

Kaga is great, until bottom tier it’s fragile planes don’t last long against Dakka cruisers or DDs

Massa is a one trick pony that cannot brawl, take secondaries away what do you have; An Alabama, great AA but like all older US BBs powercrept to hell and back.

 

Bayard; fun, Irian don’t know, Mainz a faster firing weaker hipper, Atago probably the best prem T8 cruiser.

 

cossack good gun bote but poor AA and torps, Kidd good gun bote (if within 8km), Good AA and poor torps, Asashio excellent torp bote (but only vs cvs and bbs), poor AA and guns.  
 

By poor torps I mean, amount, reload and angle.

 

My Choices.

Kidd

Atago or Prinz Eugen

Tiripitz

Enterprise (if available), then Kaga/Saipan.

[wot_2016_gunner]

7 minuti fa, MadBadDave ha scritto:

Enterprize.

The only problem with your picks is that you can't get Enterprise any more (besides of Santa and SuperContainers)

[Panocek]

Cossack, excellent T8 destroyer that uptiers EXTREMELY well with her above average gunnery and 5.5km concealment, while the same guns and concealment is outright unfair plane against lower tier DDs.

 

Anti Air doesn't exist, but you don't need one, as you have 7 smokes on board as very handy "oh " button or for occasional pew pew, without being locked to one place for too long. Excellent ship handling, long lasting brit hydro, quick reloading torpedo launcher, unfortunately only 4 fishes, so any excessively horny battleboat will get away from bumrushing you.

[Hanse77SWE]

Here's my view on the T8 premiums I have in random order.

 

Orkan: Too new to say much about but shows promise.

 

Gascogne: Fast but is held back by small guns and how they are placed.

Bayard: HE-spammer but the speedboost and reloadboost helps alot. Works well for me.

Le Terrible: Haven't played much. Pretty much a standard french DD.

 

Graf Zeppelin: I've gone full 2ndary build on mine, just for the LOLs in co-op.

Tirpitz: Forgiving to play but lacks in damage-output.

Prinz Eugen: Has a heal and that together with pretty good armor keeps her alive. Lots of torps and the guns is not bad.

Mainz: Much like PE apart for the guns. 12 of them, 17 km range, 6 s. reload and 38 mm HE-penn without IFHE. A monster if played right.

 

Roma: Fragile. Lacks in AA. Strange guns. AP either overpenns or bounces everything but broadside BBs....if they hit that is.

 

Kii: Big guns that can troll you. Good AA. Decent 2ndarys. Has torps with very good angles. Me likes.

Atago: Fast. Very versatile. Hard hitting guns. Good torps with good angles. Has heal. Very sneaky for its size. Lacks in AA. One of my favorites in the game.

Asashio: I don't like her. Good at killing BBs but can't do much against cruisers or gunboat DDs.

 

Irian: Longrange HE-spammer but with DW-torps and TRLB.

Loyang: Decent DD that can make good use of it's hydro. Very USN flavour.

 

Vanguard: Nothing special. Fast reload but not much else.

Cheshire: Fast turret speed together with fast loading 234 mm makes her deadly. Me likes

Cossack: A DD-killer if I ever saw one. Lacks in torps.

 

Alabama: Stands in the shadow of "Massa".

Massachusetts: Good torp-protection, good AA. Very good 2ndarys. Works best with its own captain.

Wichita: Standard USN Heavy cruiser. A bit worse AP-shells but you hardly notice it.

Kidd: Heal and very good AA for a DD. Has only one set of torps. Other than that a standard USN gun-boat.

 

Lenin: If you like the Nelson-style then you will love Lenin. Fast turrets. Hard hitting guns that works best in short ranges. Can bowtank for days but show your side and you're dead.

 

That's the short of it. If you have any questions about specific ships I'll try and answer them.

[KillStealBoss]

BB : Lenin, Massachusetts, Tirpitz

CA : Bayard, Irian, Atago/Mainz

DD : Kidd, Cossack, LoYang

CV : Kaga ( the rest need more experience playing cv and mastering it - especially Saipan needs a careful playstyle)

[gabberworld]

kidd seems strong yes against oland for example , but i don't like pay to win, so thanks but no thanks

[MadBadDave]

2 hours ago, Hanse77SWE said:

s in damage-output.

Prinz Eugen: Has a heal and that together with pretty good armor keeps her alive. Lots of torps and the guns is not bad

Eugen also has very good AA, and good 6km Hyrdo when uptiered it’s an excellent Escort cruiser to T10 BB’s.

 

Have a Division with Kidd, Eugen and Alabama and no planes are gonna get near. 

[MadBadDave]

2 hours ago, gabberworld said:

kidd seems strong yes against oland for example , but i don't like pay to win, so thanks but no thanks

Kidds just like a bigger Sims, both are handicapped by their torps, and flighty rounds but have good AA, prior to the EU DDs cvs had a free reign over DD’s but Oland and co now give cvs cause for concern, Kidd vs Oland is an interesting one.

[gabberworld]

1 minute ago, MadBadDave said:

Kidd vs Oland is an interesting one. 

 

i had two battle against the Kidd with Oland today, and i feel so weak, not only he have smoke he was able smash me with guns

[illy]

Massa, had it on rental for 3 days once, great fun

[Yaskaraxx]

22 hours ago, Sirius_IV said:

May or may not be bored of waiting for Siegfried and Borodino to come back into the development spotlights.

 

So I thought what T8 premium you people would put your money/coupons worth in. 

 

It only counts for T8 premiums you can still get so Kuznetsov and Enterprise don't count. 

 

My personal pick goes to Bayard or Gascogne. But ive heard Gascogne is just pure garbage. Bayard seems interesting though so does Lenin. 

But don't wanna go on a buying streak. 

Halp

if you want my advice, pick out one of these two beauties:

 

1) Massachusetts (VIII) fully secondary specced (a 100%)

2) Enterprise (VIII)...carrier, greatest ever

 

Make choice & REALY enjoy much!. Yaskara XX

[Yaskaraxx]

11 minutes ago, Yaskaraxx said:

if you want my advice, pick out one of these two beauties:

 

1) Massachusetts (VIII) fully secondary specced (a 100%)

2) Enterprise (VIII)...carrier, greatest ever

 

Make choice & REALY enjoy much!. Yaskara XX

even better, get them BOTH!, you will never ever regret trust me, on this one ( i am just community player, same as you, an individual person) I play the both. Kind regards, Yaskara XX

[gabberworld]

looked the kidd vs orland

kidd have stronger armory, higer hit points and, stronger guns

soo if you with orland and you see kidd then better run unless if team have enough brain for kill him when spotted

 

pay to win

[Yaskaraxx]

1 minute ago, gabberworld said:

looked the kidd vs orland

kidd have stronger armory, higer hit points and, stronger guns

soo if you with orland and you see kidd then better run unless if team have enough brain for kill him when spotted

 

pay to win

nahhh, i have played Kidd (VIII) destroyer ( = a BS destroyer, very weak), no, better not advice such to yr fellow players, do not, Yaskara XX (I know)

[gabberworld]

1 minute ago, Yaskaraxx said:

nahhh, i have played Kidd (VIII) destroyer ( = a BS destroyer, very weak), no, better not advice such to yr fellow players, do not, Yaskara XX (I know)

 i just say its stronger against orland

[Yaskaraxx]

6 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

 i just say its stronger against orland

yes ok, i know, np at all. But advice the community players in properly/objective ways. kind regards, Yaskara XX

[________________Morrison]

On 4/26/2020 at 5:11 AM, Verblonde said:

• BBs: MA is great fun (but generally wants a specialist captain for maximum giggles), but I might go with Tirpitz; quite apart from anything else, a lot of opponents will assume you're a hopeless newbie and underestimate you. Being very hard to citadel is helpful too.
• CVs: I'm really not qualified here, but GZ is an absolute hoot in Coop - mortal combat with secondaries is glorious (although it would be colossally stupid against real people, of course).

Tirpitz plays closely like Bismark right? 

If not for torpedoes and missing Hydro its one and the same ship? 

 

As for Secondary GZ in Random matches.. I have my commander and the B varient of GZ spect on secondary build. I very rarely get to make use of it SOMETIMES its handy, especially when your team out matches the enemy team on a flank but are big oll wussies who fear getting their paint damaged. Just push through with GZ and they'll be forced to follow and end up to win the match. Or throw it I forgot how the replay ended. I left the match after i discoverd angling in -4km to Azumas HE aint doing it chief

[________________Morrison]

16 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said:

even better, get them BOTH!, you will never ever regret trust me, on this one ( i am just community player, same as you, an individual person) I play the both. Kind regards, Yaskara XX

I remember looking at the store on the day i was debating which aircraft carrier I would get. Looking at Enterprise, saying nah GZ is better. Now every time I see an Enterprise my heart turns cold. 

I could've had it. Now im waiting for Yorktown cause Lexington looks chonky :(

[Bratoev]

Eugen is very nice. And for BB get yourself a Tirpitz, all others are pretenders to the throne unworthy of attention.

[genosse]

On 4/25/2020 at 8:34 PM, Sirius_IV said:

May or may not be bored of waiting for Siegfried and Borodino to come back into the development spotlights.

 

So I thought what T8 premium you people would put your money/coupons worth in. 

 

It only counts for T8 premiums you can still get so Kuznetsov and Enterprise don't count. 

 

My personal pick goes to Bayard or Gascogne. But ive heard Gascogne is just pure garbage. Bayard seems interesting though so does Lenin. 

But don't wanna go on a buying streak. 

Halp

Bayard: Fun ship, good for solo players because you can and often should use your speed to get into flanking positions or to skirmish. Plays almost like a French DD with a citadel, which is lot better than it sounds. After the IFHE rework it lost some of it's magic, tough, and I can see me removing the IFHE skill altogether, because it is such a drain on your ability to set fire. Be aware of that when reading older reviews.

 

Lenin: Good ship, but I can't really connect with the playstyle. Tanking damage head on seems to work just as well in my Massa, and that one dishes out fires and secondary damage nonstop. If you can find her particular niche and make it work, I recommend her, though.

 

Gascogne: Seems to be a faster, but less tanky Tirpitz, in what seems to be a bad tradeoff. Same caliber, same dispersion, same reload and comparable secondary suite (with IFHE skill). For that speed boost you trade: Superior armor, better gun angles, more turrets (less chance of losing your barrels) and torpedos. I would just buy Tirpitz, If I were you.

 

Get Bayard for a unique, fun, high adrenaline playstyle, a very high skill ceiling, and a boat that can "grow" with your abilities. It doesn't forgive mistakes, though.

 

Other than that, these are my Tier 8 favourites that are currently available, in no particular order: Massa (secondaries), Prinz Eugen (forgiving), Atago (well-rounded), Kaga (almost unlimited reserves auf good torpedo bombers, forgiving), Asashio (damage and carry potential, but MM dependent), Le Terrible (fun like Bayard) and Cossack (vision and engagement control).

[VeryHonarbrah]

Massa is probs a little OP atm, same with the lenin atm. If you want to learn how to play a classical cruiser, the atago is the best for that. Kidd is the only way dd wise I think, stronk aa + heal + fletcher gun hull