[HAMAR] Puffin_ Players 737 posts Report post #1 Posted April 25, 2020 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #2 Posted April 25, 2020 Yeah, i saw that when Flamu showed it on Stream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #3 Posted April 25, 2020 Thanks for posting this. Vertical dispersion is still something we don’t look at enough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] Flock_Undead Players 266 posts 3,046 battles Report post #4 Posted April 25, 2020 Kinda ridiclious when you think about it. The Ship thats supposed to have "bad long range dispersion" is pretty much more accurate than the ship called "amongst if not the best Tier 10 BB when it comes to accuracy" yamato. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #5 Posted April 25, 2020 I assume these are all stock without dispersion modules? Please do not introduce Slava without nerfing this dispersion. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #6 Posted April 25, 2020 Why am I slightly upset (but not much surprised)... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #7 Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said: I assume these are all stock without dispersion modules? Please do not introduce Slava without nerfing this dispersion. At least she can sneak in thanks to teh new rulez Just a matter untill even big sis comes bak from holiday too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1000_battleship And if thats not enuff balans... https://thekristoffersuniverseinwar.fandom.com/wiki/K-1000_Sovetsky_Soyuz_class_battleship I thought kremlins would be worse however. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #8 Posted April 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said: I assume these are all stock without dispersion modules? That would be interesting to know, but i assume so. Yamato is vastly more accurate for me than thunderer and Kremlin. Granted, i havent played neither of them that much, but Yamato is leaking by a nice margin. Probably the sigma + LM makes more of a difference. But Kremlin is one of my worst TX BBs, this thing doesnt hit at all for me. And no, im not sitting in the back with it lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,702 battles Report post #9 Posted April 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: That would be interesting to know, but i assume so. Yamato is vastly more accurate for me than thunderer and Kremlin. Granted, i havent played neither of them that much, but Yamato is leaking by a nice margin. Probably the sigma + LM makes more of a difference. But Kremlin is one of my worst TX BBs, this thing doesnt hit at all for me. And no, im not sitting in the back with it lol Yep, Kremlin's guns are very derpy unless they're close to you. At these moments, it's amazing, otherwise it's pretty hit or miss(not to say you can't blap someone at range though). Despite what this diagram implies, Yama guns are way more reliable and way more consistent in terms of accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merlin851526 Players 474 posts 8,076 battles Report post #10 Posted April 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: That would be interesting to know, but i assume so. Yamato is vastly more accurate for me than thunderer and Kremlin. Granted, i havent played neither of them that much, but Yamato is leaking by a nice margin. Probably the sigma + LM makes more of a difference. But Kremlin is one of my worst TX BBs, this thing doesnt hit at all for me. And no, im not sitting in the back with it lol We must have the same Kremlin. I generally don't fire at at anything unless below 15 km and I get a lot of salvos hitting the water just short of the target, and if I'm really lucky I get to make a lovey splash pattern right around the enemy ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[501L] DrMechano Players 381 posts 4,327 battles Report post #11 Posted April 25, 2020 Also remember the Yamato gets the legendary mod with improves dispersion further. I'm kind of curious what the graph would look like if we included the aiming systems mod for them all and the Yamato had its legendary mod with aiming mod. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #12 Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, DrMechano said: Also remember the Yamato gets the legendary mod with improves dispersion further. I'm kind of curious what the graph would look like if we included the aiming systems mod for them all and the Yamato had its legendary mod with aiming mod. Meaning -7 and -7 altogether? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[501L] DrMechano Players 381 posts 4,327 battles Report post #13 Posted April 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Meaning -7 and -7 altogether? yeah -7 and -7 so -14% dispersion IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #14 Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrMechano said: yeah -7 and -7 so -14% dispersion IIRC. Amazingly, I'm still getting mostly pretty crappy results with that... possibly Yamato guns are not very effective against angled targets or I just plain suck at this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[501L] DrMechano Players 381 posts 4,327 battles Report post #15 Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Amazingly, I'm still getting mostly pretty crappy results with that... possibly Yamato guns are not very effective against angled targets or I just plain suck at this... Her max dispersion stock is 276m. With Aiming mod systems 1 it drops to 257m and with both it and the legendary module it drops to 239mm with a 2.10 sigma rating, which means her shots are more likely to be clumped together instead of scattering to the wind. Montana with its slot 6 artillery room mod drops from the stock 297m dispersion to 264m max dispersion with a sigma of 1.90. Kremlins max dispersion with the aiming mod drops to 280m to 260m with a sigma of 1.80 at max range but we all know it gets much tighter (giggity) as you close the distance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #16 Posted April 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Miragetank90 said: Please do not introduce Slava without nerfing this dispersion. Oh, you know if we cry and whine hard enough they will nerf Slava. The nerf however will be something like lowering AA mounts HP ofc. Da comrade. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #17 Posted April 25, 2020 We have been talking in Discord, and V Dispersion is currently unknown how it works. Quote 1) Gun's dispersion is determined by settings that belong to turret. For instance you can find them under PASD508_Kidd\A1_Artillery\HP_AGM_1 -Horizontal Disp params: "idealDistance", "idealRadius", "minRadius" -Vertical Disp params: "radiusOnMax", "radiusOnDelim", "radiusOnZero" -Horizontal disp formula(x) = (idealRadius - minRadius)/idealDistance*x + 30*minRadius - Vertical disp formula...Yet unknown. But assumed to be horizontal disp * vertical params. So i wouldnt trust the picture to be correct. Anyone who has played IJN BBs pretty much knows, thats not how their shells behave. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] __Helmut_Kohl__ Beta Tester 4,156 posts 18,919 battles Report post #18 Posted April 25, 2020 Proships.ru is utter garbage anyway. Just check the flight times - it's 3 times the ingame value IIRC, basically what it should be IRL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOYAI] KielYourself Players 350 posts 16,980 battles Report post #19 Posted April 25, 2020 Wheres shikishima? Some sources claim she has dispersion close to Slava. Also the listed vertical dispersion is wrong the formula is unknown and proships doesnt have the correct one. Afaik the vertical dispersion should be around 2x the horizontal one. https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/fxx578/093_extra_information_from_datamine/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SEN] SEN_SEN_Channel_Portugue [SEN] Players 795 posts Report post #20 Posted April 25, 2020 For me, Yammy with LM is, by far, THE most acc. ship, beating Thunderer (also a great ship) and outclassing Kremlin by a strong lead. The Yammy with LM can consistently slap bb & cruisers at 20 km +, and under 16km you even can aim for a specific section of enemy bb. Kremlin, on other hand, is frustrating at 18-20 km and even can miss completely at 14-15km. Some kind of historical justice here... I pray the devs will not touch Yammy acc. in my lifetime ! On the opposite side I will put Nagato, THE worst ship when it comes to acc - Nagato right now seems to use bent barrels for guns, shells from same fraking turret go left and right, and closer you get to the target, worst acc you have; I re-grind the INJ bb line, and Nagato was a real pain for me now, german bbs are sharpshooters next to poor Nagato ! I have several situations with fully broadside cruisers at 8-10 km sailing parallel with me, laughing at me and raining HE at me and my 8 shells keep falling ahead, behind, to short, to far away, and occasionally you get an hit with, sure enough, an over pen... Nagato must have by far THE worst vertical dispersion... and probably also one of the worst horizontal... The day I bought back Amagi I opened a bottle of champagne, such was the relief ! I did more cits in 2 games with Amagi than in 50 with Nagato.... Shame, I remember Nagato a great ship 4-5 years ago.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #21 Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, DFens_666 said: We have been talking in Discord, and V Dispersion is currently unknown how it works. So i wouldnt trust the picture to be correct. Anyone who has played IJN BBs pretty much knows, thats not how their shells behave. I would also assume the target angle relative to your angle is going to have a huge impact as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INDIA] luokailk Players 377 posts 42,521 battles Report post #22 Posted August 27, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 12:04 PM, Puffin_ said: Thanks, can someone compare this with the Stalingrad? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #23 Posted August 27, 2020 A touch bigger than Thunderer dispersion (Horizontal and vertical) but with a sigma of 2.65 instead of Thunderers 1.9 making it far more accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #24 Posted August 27, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HassenderZerhacker Players 1,307 posts 3,884 battles Report post #25 Posted August 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Execute0rder66 said: complaints about necroposting is symptomatic of what's wrong with today's people's attention span of a few minutes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
