PT - Balances changes

[Tanatoy]

Please note that all information in the development blog is preliminary and subject to change during testing. Showcased features may or may not end up on the main server. Any final information will be published on our game's website.

 

In the second stage of the Public test for Update 0.9.4, we've changed the characteristics of several ships, having analyzed their combat performance and taken player feedback into account. Such changes were required in order to carefully adjust the balance of selected warships. We'll continue to introduce changes in the updates that will follow, if deemed necessary.

 

Read more.

[Allied_Winter]

We'll continue to introduce changes in the updates that will follow, if deemed necessary.

 

VIII ÖLAND
Stock torpedo tubes reload time reduced from 70 to 59 s

 

VIII CLEVELAND
The "Fighter" consumable was added to the same slot as the "Surveillance Radar" consumable.

 

IX SEATTLE , X WORCESTER
The "Fighter" and "Spotting Aircraft" consumables were added to the same slot as the "Surveillance Radar" consumable.

 

VIII NORTH CAROLINA
Deck armor plating increased from 37 to 38 mm.

 

V NICHOLAS, VI FARRAGUT, VII MAHAN, VIII BENSON, IX FLETCHER, VIII OGNEVOI
The "Defensive AA Fire" consumable can now be mounted on any hull.

 

III AURORA
Turret traverse speed increased from 5.3 to 5.5 degrees per second. 

 

IV GANGUT
Base main battery firing range increased from 12.3 to 12.4 km.

 

III VALKYRIE
Main battery reload time increased from 5.4 to 5.6 s.

 

IX JUTLAND
Main battery reload time increased from 4.2 to 4.3 s;
Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

 

X DARING
Main battery reload time increased from 2.7 to 2.8 s;
Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

 

II WEYMOUTH
"Repair Party" consumable was added;
Main battery reload time increased from 8.57 to 8.9 s.

 

V HAWKINS
Main battery reload time reduced from 13.5 to 13 s.

 

V T-22
"Hydroacoustic Search" consumable was added in a separate slot.

 

VI ERNST GAEDE
"Hydroacoustic Search" consumable can now be mounted when the base hull is used.

 

Aviation:
Spotting range of all planes reduced from 17 to 16 km (This characteristic determines at what distance the aircraft is capable of spotting an enemy).

[Panocek]

 

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IX JUTLAND

Main battery reload time increased from 4.2 to 4.3 s;

Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

X DARING

Main battery reload time increased from 2.7 to 2.8 s;

Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

Nerf marathon continues. And I wonder when Jutland will go below Lightning reload

 

Daring with 2.8s reload almost equalizes with Gearing HE damage output. Ship that also happen to have much meatier torps and actually team useful smokes.

[MarcoGn97]

Finally the Wooster can outrange the Smolensk 

[gopher31]

38 minutes ago, MarcoGn97 said:

Finally the Wooster can outrange the Smolensk 

My team always gets angry when I launch a spotter from my Des Moines.

[Aragathor]

Nice change to T-22 and Gaede. With hydro T-22 will be able to reply do some work on smoke camping ships.

[Animalul2012]

GANGUT BUFF WTF? Do you even play this game? That thing is almost impossible to kill unless you execute a perfect drive by to it or by using torpedoes. Just look at its armor profile)))-this thing can make a great T10 ship with some HP and GUN and better speed buffs.

[Zyzyx1905]

Dont touch my daring...you have already messed up the pan-asian line....all these nerfs and not a single one on damn russian 'cancer' ship....are you enjoying this?

[gopher31]

34 minutes ago, Zyzyx1905 said:

Dont touch my daring...you have already messed up the pan-asian line....all these nerfs and not a single one on damn russian 'cancer' ship....are you enjoying this?

shhh, they are slowy nerfing it so no one notices...

[61DeJaVu61]

4 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

shhh, they are slowy nerfing it so no one notices...

0.1, 0.1 :)) 

[Zyzyx1905]

9 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

shhh, they are slowy nerfing it so no one notices...

Yeah, and they are losing players bit by bit...does anyone think this game is getting more interesting lately? 

[GulvkluderGuld]

5 hours ago, Tanatoy said:

Please note that all information in the development blog is preliminary and subject to change during testing. Showcased features may or may not end up on the main server. Any final information will be published on our game's website.

 

In the second stage of the Public test for Update 0.9.4, we've changed the characteristics of several ships, having analyzed their combat performance and taken player feedback into account. Such changes were required in order to carefully adjust the balance of selected warships. We'll continue to introduce changes in the updates that will follow, if deemed necessary.

 

Read more.

How about you buf other DDs instea of nerfing the RN line?

Relatively speaking, DDs are a lot less good a carrying than they were prior to 0.8.0. 
Also you might want to add heals to tier X dds sometime in the future unless rocket planes get removed from CVs.

 

[DariusJacek]

2 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

How about you buf other DDs instea of nerfing the RN line?

Relatively speaking, DDs are a lot less good a carrying than they were prior to 0.8.0. 
Also you might want to add heals to tier X dds sometime in the future unless rocket planes get removed from CVs.

 

Don;t you know? This kind of balancing is reserved exclusively for BBs not DD peasants.

[GulvkluderGuld]

6 minutes ago, DariusJacek said:

Don;t you know? This kind of balancing is reserved exclusively for BBs not DD peasants.

Sadly WG is like: 

[Panocek]

7 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

How about you buf other DDs instea of nerfing the RN line?

Relatively speaking, DDs are a lot less good a carrying than they were prior to 0.8.0. 
Also you might want to add heals to tier X dds sometime in the future unless rocket planes get removed from CVs.

 

UK utility package will probably mean Yueyanging HARD Jutland/Daring. Waiting for WG to realize Lightning is a thing and to pull out Cossack "for balancing reasons"

 

And then WG is perfectly aware how DDs are capable of carrying and they don't like it. Otherwise you wouldn't get so many fun and engaging means of countering DDs.

[GulvkluderGuld]

7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

UK utility package will probably mean Yueyanging HARD Jutland/Daring. Waiting for WG to realize Lightning is a thing and to pull out Cossack "for balancing reasons"

 

And then WG is perfectly aware how DDs are capable of carrying and they don't like it. Otherwise you wouldn't get so many fun and engaging means of countering DDs.

WG learned from YY debacle and now do incremental nerfs. Also useful to only very slowly nerf particular lines they don't want to nerf (*cough Kremlin*).

 

Most counterplay to DDs are actually fine since it allows for skill to matter. Only warp-speed planes and stealth radar battlecruisers are problematic when there is not skill involved. What I suggest is adding heals to the remaining older tier X dds that are suffering (Gearing, Z52 in particular)

 

I doubt WG will do anything about tier 8, in fact I'm not sure they're aware at this point that tiers below X exist 

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

warp-speed planes

Tbh most planes fly their average cruise speeds, even when boosting. B7A, Shokaku torpedo/dive bomber could reach 300kts when pushed for it, SB2C from Lexington could reach 250kts

 

buff rockets speed so much they can't aim at DDs

[GulvkluderGuld]

7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Tbh most planes fly their average cruise speeds,

Not talking realism here but rather gameplay. 

Planes are so fast CV can reset any capping from anywhere on the map unless smoke is used and blindfire missed.

Also retreating from smoke to friendlies is next to impossible without eating huge chunks (especially i they have moved away when DD is forced to smoke and nothing was spotting for them).

 

Would be ok with planes going 600 knots and unable to aim at DDs unless they predict perfectly in advance, but I'm not sure other classes would appreciate a doubling of CV effectiveness 

[Panocek]

6 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

Not talking realism here but rather gameplay. 

Planes are so fast CV can reset any capping from anywhere on the map unless smoke is used and blindfire missed.

This is part where normally you wouldn't put CV at the frontline but 5km+ away from the map border.

 

But then, reducing cycling rate of air attacks would inevitably lead to increasing alpha damage, and that would bring us back to pre rework state

[GulvkluderGuld]

3 minutes ago, Panocek said:

But then, reducing cycling rate of air attacks would inevitably lead to increasing alpha damage, and that would bring us back to pre rework state

Except CVs are still way too strong compared to any other class, so any nerfs would just bring them closer to balanced state.

Also the concept of multiple attacks by the same squad could be brought back to life without changing alpha, but rather simply removing a few more AA modules from the Kremlin and pronouncing it balanced like CVs 

 

 

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said:

Except CVs are still way too strong compared to any other class, so any nerfs would just bring them closer to balanced state.

Clearly not in the spreadshiet

[GulvkluderGuld]

13 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Clearly not in the spreadshiet

All of them say Hosho is fun and balanced too. Says all you need to know about their validity 

[loppantorkel]

You're so late, WG. ...and soo lazy. Why always take the easy route when attempting to balance the game?

 

 

 

[Toivia]

It's kinda funny watching these incremental nerfs (or buffs), but definitely nicer than seeing nerfhammers drop on unsuspecting targets (California, anone?).

And I wonder how low plane spotting range will get. We started at 20kms, iirc.

[Zemeritt]

First off, thanks @Allied_Winter for posting the changes in the thread rather than posting a like to a site I never want to visit.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

VIII CLEVELAND
The "Fighter" consumable was added to the same slot as the "Surveillance Radar" consumable.

 

IX SEATTLE , X WORCESTER
The "Fighter" and "Spotting Aircraft" consumables were added to the same slot as the "Surveillance Radar" consumable.

 

This can only be a meme. Why pick a fighter over radar?

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

VIII NORTH CAROLINA
Deck armor plating increased from 37 to 38 mm.

 

I don't think this will change much? T8 IFHE CLs will still be able to pen her iirc.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

V NICHOLAS, VI FARRAGUT, VII MAHAN, VIII BENSON, IX FLETCHER, VIII OGNEVOI
The "Defensive AA Fire" consumable can now be mounted on any hull.

 

Nice. Should make the C hulls mostly obsolete.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

III VALKYRIE
Main battery reload time increased from 5.4 to 5.6 s.

 

IX JUTLAND
Main battery reload time increased from 4.2 to 4.3 s;
Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

 

X DARING
Main battery reload time increased from 2.7 to 2.8 s;
Torpedo tubes reload time increased from 124 to 125 s.

 

So the UK DDs slowly get adjusted. I just hope they don't push to far.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

II WEYMOUTH
"Repair Party" consumable was added;

 

Second ship at T2 with a heal ability.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

V T-22
"Hydroacoustic Search" consumable was added in a separate slot.

 

VI ERNST GAEDE
"Hydroacoustic Search" consumable can now be mounted when the base hull is used.

 

Nice changes.

 

11 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

Aviation:
Spotting range of all planes reduced from 17 to 16 km (This characteristic determines at what distance the aircraft is capable of spotting an enemy).

 

Slowly they put this number down.