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AA rating bug

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Today I got the Duke of York as another trial-rental and I'm impressed with how lethal she is for airplanes. Then I saw her AA rating of 66. The captain doesn't have AFT or BFT.

 

Hmmm... Gneisenau has 82, and that's with AFT and BFT.

 

And when I look at the detailed AA stats, I get this:

 

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So the AA rating seems very bugged to me.

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The AA rating is not bugged. It just relativly useless like all these ships scores since their introduction...

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The rating is most probable mostly based on long range puff damage. Which is significantly higher and longer reaching on Gneisenau.

 

... and which is the easiest migitated by a non-drooling, non-knuckledragging and non-flatheaded CV captain.

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19 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

The AA rating is not bugged. It just relativly useless like all these ships scores since their introduction...

does that rating reflect the ship's ability to defend itself against airplanes?

 

if not, then it's bugged.

 

secondly, the ratings of two ships should allow for comparison. But the Duke of York is hugely better than Gneisenau at defending against airplanes, while the latter has 25% better AA on paper.

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It all makes sense. WG dislikes the continuous AA dps mechanic. So they introduced flak to kill planes. A good mechanic according to WG.

So it's normal that the scores value flak more than dps (cause WG made the formula for these ratings).

 

But as @ColonelPetesaid, they are mostly useless.

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3 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

It all makes sense. WG dislikes the continuous AA dps mechanic. So they introduced flak to kill planes. A good mechanic according to WG.

So it's normal that the scores value flak more than dps (cause WG made the formula for these ratings).

 

But as @ColonelPetesaid, they are mostly useless.

they FlAK ratings are nearly the same 1330 vs 1610

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Not sure (as I dont pay attention to those ratings for already mentioned reasons) but imo: the ratings never changed, when CV rewöörk hit. Gneisenau was superb in AA during RTS times. DoY wasnt bad either but not Gneisenau level.

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6 minutes ago, quickr said:

People look at and give value to those ratings? :cap_hmm:

either the rating is OK, then it has its place in-game, or it's bugged, and then it should be corrected or removed. simples.

 

the AA rating should reflect the full abysmality of German BB's AA for example.

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8 minutes ago, quickr said:

People look at and give value to those ratings? :cap_hmm:

 

I saw a noob streamer once, telling everone, how OP the shimakaze is - because she has 99 torpedos. Yes, he actually thought, that Shima sends 99 torps at once, because thats what the rating said.

 

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You prolly guessed It: he was a BB main.

 

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14 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

either the rating is OK, then it has its place in-game, or it's bugged, and then it should be corrected or removed. simples.

 

the AA rating should reflect the full abysmality of German BB's AA for example.

The rating is not bugged, it just rates range as a value ungodly high. This is why the Shima for example has the highest torpedo rating with the 20 km torps despite those torps being the most useless ones.

 

Ignore the ratings, just look at values. Been the same since day one.

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1 hour ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

they FlAK ratings are nearly the same 1330 vs 1610

Erm, that's a 21% increase in flak dmg alone. So calling that "nearly the same" is kinda meh

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I just bought Z-39 today. Amazing AA rating for DD!

 

Doesn't stop lolcarrier from making 4x3 rocket dives on me. 2 planes shot down

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Just gonna drop to say that Gneissenau AA was good during the RTS times only if she actually specced for AA but it usually was a bad idea because the ship would be sorely lacking on crucial stuff to make it a decent surface ship. So when the Gneissenau specced for surface combat, which was the sensible thing to do, she was one of the tastier treats for a CV due to mediocre AA+long hull+bad turning circle+mediocre torpedo protection.

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6 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

 

 

But as @ColonelPetesaid, they are mostly useless.

Not all the times, there are times that AA is useful.

Long gone are the days where we could shoot down + 40 planes in a match with a Gneisenau or a ship good at AA with no specific AA build.

 

I'm running some tests, I'm experiment with AA, i'm in my way for a full AA build in one of my ships. I don't have too many data yet .

81 battles 218 planes shoot down, that's an average of 2.69 , so far, the most I did with a 9 point captain was 16 planes, doesn't seems too much, looking this way. (although I get the feeling that I can shoot down much more than 16 planes if I get fed with planes with the ship plus captain as is)

 

 

We all know that WG wants to guarantee always a drop on ships.... but not all cv players are good. There's more bad players than good players and in this context the AA is still useful.

 

What I did noticed so far :

 

- Sometimes, the build (captain+ ship) can shoot down up to 6 planes in a single go (neutralizing the wave)

 

- Due to that Nation particular gameplay (American), that can put the ship in a very fragile position for the planes to take advantage of, so, AA it's very handy to mess up the cv drop.

 

- cv still prefers to go for other ships and avoid mine if he has the change.

 

- I can project my AA protection to other ships too, in some extent, if the other ship is close by. Or he pays more than he is expecting or he avoids and goes for other target

 

That, ofc, while relying heavily in the cv player skills, that's not a guarantee like it used to be.

 

But from I saw so far, I'm going full AA.

 

anyone experimented with Dogfigth expert?

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Butterdoll said:

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My comment you quoted talked about AA ratings. Not usefulness of AA. That's a discussion we don't need in this topic. 

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