Move Submarine Testing to Live Server.

[Sunleader]

Its become rather Quite around the Subs.

But on a seperate Test Server. You will get less and less Data due to people losing interest and only hardcore players playing at all and abusing every mechanic till it goes to crab.

 

You said before that Subs would get their own Gamemode on Live Server for Testing.

I think its about time you started doing this.

 

Allowing the Average Player into the whole thing will give you more Data and also more relevant results to the Testing for the Day when the Subs actually are released.

It will also massively soften the Blow from the Anti Submarine Backlash if you do this Early. As these People will have much less Steam while Subs are in a Seperate Gamemode and thus are Voluntary Content.

If you only do this once Subs are more or less Finished. It will mean that you end up with alot of Backlash from people trying to keep them from going onto normal Randoms. Forcing it to either spend more time in the test mode even after being finished or getting onto the Live server while the Haters still have massive Momentum against it.

 

 

ok I admit it. I just want to play subs on live server. pls dont hate me. ^^

[Cyclops_]

NO, end of.

[Klopirat]

the first two rounds of submarine testing had showed already that subs in wows are a very bad idea. And the third round was even much much worse, an huge step backwards compared to the second round. So no, for sure we don't need subs  on the normal server, even not in an separate game mode...

 

But i am afraid that we will see subs in 0.9.4., if rumours are true ...

[Maris_Piper]

I was looking forward to the Submarine release, Now well mm, I was also looking forward to the British heavy cruisers as well, I think it will be make or break time for myself and a good few other players,, I really do hope thy have got them right though

[Profilus]

I just hope Flamu is not "cautiously optimistic" on subs, as he was towards cv rework. Most of us know how he feels about that now

[gabberworld]

19 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

But i am afraid that we will see subs in 0.9.4., if rumours are true ...

can't be true, if i'm not mistaken then Soviet Cruisers will come at 0.9.4

[Sunleader]

27 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said:

NO, end of.

 

22 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

the first two rounds of submarine testing had showed already that subs in wows are a very bad idea. And the third round was even much much worse, an huge step backwards compared to the second round. So no, for sure we don't need subs  on the normal server, even not in an separate game mode...

 

But i am afraid that we will see subs in 0.9.4., if rumours are true ...

 

13 minutes ago, motor_g_b said:

I was looking forward to the Submarine release, Now well mm, I was also looking forward to the British heavy cruisers as well, I think it will be make or break time for myself and a good few other players,, I really do hope thy have got them right though

 

Stop your Futile Resistance *gg*

Subs will Come. Thats a Fact.

 

The Choice you have. Is to have them away from Public Eye with only a Select Few People deciding whats changed on them and how they are Finally Implemented. After which your Opinion will be Ignored for Months to Come and thus you not being able to do anything about it.

Or have them in a Place where everyone Sees them and can try to make them as balanced and Fun as possible while Wargaming still is interested and listens to that Public Opinion about Subs. Thus there actually being chances to have things changed positively and in a short time frame.

 

 

Your attempts on denying and delaying it. Will only make it be as Disastrous as CVs. With Wargaming Releasing them purely based on the Unicum Testers Data and them just wrecking everything. Which will then not change for several Months as Wargaming waits for Spreadsheet Data to Accumulate. And even after that there will be only tiny changes every few Months as wargaming waits for more and new spreadsheet data on these Mini Changes.

 

 

I think its better to get Subs into Public Eye earlier where we can still influence WGs opinion and change things.

[woppy101]

More [edited] in the game no thanks, we have enough [edited] with CVs

[MrWastee]

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/31444-some-interesting-info-around-the-world/?page=224&tab=comments#comment-3433690

 

seems u're too late mate

[Allied_Winter]

One post had to be edited. Please follow the rules!

[Sunleader]

21 minutes ago, MrWastee said:

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/31444-some-interesting-info-around-the-world/?page=224&tab=comments#comment-3433690

 

seems u're too late mate

 

I am not Late then. I am just in time *gg*

I really hope he is Right. I want to Play Subs ^^

 

And I am not Lying about the above stuff either.

On CVs we see what happens if we leave Testing entirely to the Supertesters and other People usually Playing this Game very Seriously and thus simply dont run run across the Problems you tend to get when 90% of your Team is made up of Average Players.

 

It would be much much better. If Subs right from the Start got a large Group of Average Players Testing it. So this can be taken into consideration when Balancing.

[lovelacebeer]

Oh joys I can't wait to see how badly this will go.

[MrWastee]

2 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

I am not Late then. I am just in time *gg*

I really hope he is Right. I want to Play Subs ^^

 

And I am not Lying about the above stuff either.

On CVs we see what happens if we leave Testing entirely to the Supertesters and other People usually Playing this Game very Seriously and thus simply dont run run across the Problems you tend to get when 90% of your Team is made up of Average Players.

 

It would be much much better. If Subs right from the Start got a large Group of Average Players Testing it. So this can be taken into consideration when Balancing.

indeed lol, >fill in rn meme< !

 

me too... even though i'm twisted by simple possibility they just screw it all up meeeh....

on thing's for sure: if it gets implemented halfway decently i not will play something else for quite some time i guess ....

 

but i don't like some of their approaches (guided torps) at all, so i'm even more curious on playing them on live to see how it all works out.

type xxi, wherever u are, u're mine

[Fat_Maniac]

1 hour ago, Sunleader said:

Its become rather Quite around the Subs.

But on a seperate Test Server. You will get less and less Data due to people losing interest and only hardcore players playing at all and abusing every mechanic till it goes to crab.

 

You said before that Subs would get their own Gamemode on Live Server for Testing.

I think its about time you started doing this.

 

Allowing the Average Player into the whole thing will give you more Data and also more relevant results to the Testing for the Day when the Subs actually are released.

It will also massively soften the Blow from the Anti Submarine Backlash if you do this Early. As these People will have much less Steam while Subs are in a Seperate Gamemode and thus are Voluntary Content.

If you only do this once Subs are more or less Finished. It will mean that you end up with alot of Backlash from people trying to keep them from going onto normal Randoms. Forcing it to either spend more time in the test mode even after being finished or getting onto the Live server while the Haters still have massive Momentum against it.

 

 

ok I admit it. I just want to play subs on live server. pls dont hate me. ^^

Data mining has shown subs may be in live as soon as 9,4.

https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/world-of-warships-update-0-9-4-changes-and-additions-supertest-datamining-submarines-are-coming/

[lovelacebeer]

1 hour ago, gabberworld said:

can't be true, if i'm not mistaken then Soviet Cruisers will come at 0.9.4

 

Its an old political trick you release some embarrassing information to distract people  from a much bigger mistake you have made. This way everyone will be talking about subs rather than any balancing concerns re the new Russian cruisers.

[gabberworld]

probably after Soviet Cruisers there will be the Germany heavy cruisers and then Germany CV, but never knows really

[Migantium_Mashum]

You want Submarines go play 'Silent Hunter'....

 

[Echo_519]

I still wonder how they plan to do this seperate gamemode when they release subs. I mean, how do they "make" people play any other ships in this gamemode then subs? How does WG want to make people pick BB's and cruisers playing with subs

[togMOR]

Vor 3 Minuten, Echo_519 sagte:

I still wonder how they plan to do this seperate gamemode when they release subs. I mean, how do they "make" people play any other ships in this gamemode then subs? How does WG want to make people pick BB's and cruisers playing with subs

Given the back and forth with the various core mechanics in the past test iterations i´m not convinced that "they" have a solid plan for that issue either ... ^^

[Butterdoll]

No. No subs in the game.

I wont spend any money until this ghost (submarines) are vanquish once and for all.

And most probably I will go away if the subs arrive.

59 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

It would be much much better. If Subs right from the Start got a large Group of Average Players Testing it. So this can be taken into consideration when Balancing.

Then, who wants to play subs should go play into another server but the live one .

you want to play subs, go ahead and go play in the other server.

 

I'm not about saying this all the time... but there's a high probability if the subs come Butterdoll is signing out

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gabberworld]

5 minutes ago, Echo_519 said:

I still wonder how they plan to do this seperate gamemode when they release subs. I mean, how do they "make" people play any other ships in this gamemode then subs? How does WG want to make people pick BB's and cruisers playing with subs

it can be that you can select submarine at that gamemode like they limit missions or clan battles

[lovelacebeer]

9 minutes ago, Echo_519 said:

I still wonder how they plan to do this seperate gamemode when they release subs. I mean, how do they "make" people play any other ships in this gamemode then subs? How does WG want to make people pick BB's and cruisers playing with subs

 

This is a damn good question, my guess is they will do missions i.e. Get X number of kills in subs mode in a BB to get a certain reward. 

[gabberworld]

separate game mode is nice, because there are people who talks that they not want play with those

[Echo_519]

Vor 4 Minuten, lovelacebeer sagte:

This is a damn good question, my guess is they will do missions i.e. Get X number of kills in subs mode in a BB to get a certain reward.

ok, but either those rewards are too low and noone want to play 5 game in a BB in subs-gamemode just for one camo, or the rewards are soo good that people will "abuse" it and WG goes broke...

[Stormhawk_V]

20 minutes ago, Echo_519 said:

I still wonder how they plan to do this seperate gamemode when they release subs.

They won't. It's that simple. I can't believe people actually expect WG to create a separate gamemode for subs because they said so.