GKD to gulag? (Kots)

[Apophisos]

So do I understand it right if GKD refused to play their match?

[Miragetank90]

They pulled out. 

 

And they won't be able to play again either. Since they're now permabanned from KOTS. 

[Aragathor]

47 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

They pulled out. 

 

And they won't be able to play again either. Since they're now permabanned from KOTS. 

They will come under a different name with new accounts. The ships can be obtained by employing a grind farm.

Unless WG goes after Chinese players playing on servers outside of China, nothing will change.

[lafeel]

58 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

They pulled out. 

 

And they won't be able to play again either. Since they're now permabanned from KOTS. 

As well as they should be for such behavior.

[Bear__Necessities]

Poor little cheaters couldn’t accept losing fairly. 

[NothingButTheRain]

Wait, what happened today?

I did see the match against TWA, but missed on what happened after that?

They are sore losers then or something?

[lafeel]

18 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Wait, what happened today?

I did see the match against TWA, but missed on what happened after that?

 They are sore losers then or something?

They basically quit just before the 3rd place play off was going to start. No word, no warning, no nothing.

 

Meant that the 15 thousand people viewing the stream were left hanging.

[NothingButTheRain]

5 minutes ago, lafeel said:

They basically quit just before the 3rd place play off was going to start. No word, no warning, no nothing.

 

Meant that the 15 thousand people viewing the stream were left hanging.

So they were sore loosers. Serves them right for getting a permaban for such honorless conduct.

[lafeel]

2 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

So they were sore loosers. Serves them right for getting a permaban for such honorless conduct.

Could not agree more, and I do hope WG makes it so they can't just sneak their way back in with new accounts..

[Bear__Necessities]

Just a reminder of how they cheat and ruined the game and their own reputation. 

 

[link removed]

 

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Just a reminder of how they cheat and ruined the game and their own reputation. 

 

 

Yea, that's pretty bad, don't even need to watch the whole thing to see what the problem is..

[Miragetank90]

41 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Wait, what happened today?

I did see the match against TWA, but missed on what happened after that?

They are sore losers then or something?

 

Basically, there are 3 rumours I've seen floating around. I didn't follow the games, these are just rumours that I can't confirm. 

 

1 - They had an internal disagreement and some people were mad, and they couldn't field a team and had to pull out.

 

2 - They pulled out because they didn't want to get caught cheating. 

 

3 - Salt at their losses. Boo dee hoo. 

 

In any case, they're known to be cheaters and I don't feel sorry for them at all. 

 

 

Get them out of my sight. 

[Nov_A]

7 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Just a reminder of how they cheat and ruined the game and their own reputation. 

 

[link removed]

 

How can you play like this without getting an epileptic seizure, there are so many colors, figures and forms flashing.

[Starchy_Tuber]

8 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Just a reminder of how they cheat and ruined the game and their own reputation. 

 

[link removed]

How does this video link to GKD in KOTS?

(Serious Q:unaware of the history)

[TruePhoenix]

The bigger question is, how widespread is this use of aim / incoming bots across the servers?

 

It would explain why some suddenly become "immortal" to incoming fire.

 

Suspect WoWs has some answers to find in light of that video evidence.....

[lossi_2018]

explain the cheat plz cuz I don't understand Chinese

 

I assume it is a mod?

[lossi_2018]

23 minutes ago, TruePhoenix said:

The bigger question is, how widespread is this use of aim / incoming bots across the servers?

 

It would explain why some suddenly become "immortal" to incoming fire.

 

Suspect WoWs has some answers to find in light of that video evidence.....

prob a lot, explains why people don't want to abandon the use of 'mods'

[lafeel]

6 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said:

explain the cheat plz cuz I don't understand Chinese

It's hard to explain, but watch a couple of minutes into the battle and you should see it clear as day.

[KillStealBoss]

47 minutes ago, Starchy_Tuber said:

How does this video link to GKD in KOTS?

(Serious Q:unaware of the history)

These are the same people just changed accounts as I heard about this case. 

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

how they cheat

Bl00dy he11s! People seriously go to this much trouble to win a *game*?

 

Gordon Bennett - they must be truly spectacularly insufficiently priapic...!

[Butterdoll]

4 hours ago, Miragetank90 said:

They pulled out. 

 

And they won't be able to play again either. Since they're now permabanned from KOTS. 

they were permabanned for pulling out?

or for cheating?

 

what a crazy [edited]cheat

[Bear__Necessities]

1 hour ago, Starchy_Tuber said:

How does this video link to GKD in KOTS?

(Serious Q:unaware of the history)

It's an example of the same players in the Current GKD clan cheating in previous clan wars. IE they have form and should never have been allowed into KotS. And they threw their dummies out the pram after getting beat. Frankly they don't deserve to be allowed to play any form of competitive reward based aspects of WoWs. 

[HMS_Kilinowski]

I heard about the mod. Someone linked the page a couple of weeks ago. You even pay for it like 15€ a month. An ex-clan-colleague once told me he tested the trial-version, but wasn't too thrilled.

 

It's funny that this mod obviously has been around for years and Wargaming cannot identify the links of the information the mod uses from the transferred data or is not willing to address this. Consequently they now possibly face an embarrassing moment in a high publicity event. That is even worse than the ramming bugs we had last year that caused spectators to not sink each other and necessitated restarts.

 

On 4/5/2020 at 2:22 AM, lossi_2018 said:

explain the cheat plz cuz I don't understand Chinese

 

I assume it is a mod?

The mod is the so called "WoWs Warpack". You can see the colored markers around your own ship that indicate where the shells of incoming fire will hit. So in the video you can see the Henri avoiding these zones by maneuvering. Another key feature is the tiny red crosshair in front of the targets. It's like the torpedo predictor an indicator where the player needs to aim to hit the target at presumably the center of the ship at waterline level. This latter mod is also called aim-bot or aim-assist, an urban myth come true.

 

One may argue if the aim-assist really improves aiming, as most good players will already have a pretty good prediction. Also the aimbot cannot foresee how the player will change course and speed. I would guess it doesn't even account for the rudder position but just predict the ship to go straight at a given constant speed. A player would still need to adjust his aim to that. I think it's rather a thing for weekend captains.

 

The incoming fire indicator however is a very powerful mod. Even the best players don't know all the ships that are firing at them and where their salvos will hit. That indicator allows the Henri in the video to significantly evade incoming fire and damage to a degree that even the best players couldn't do. I think the mod even shows the complete path of unspotted torpedos, making it trivial to avoid them.

 

In short, if I understood all correctly, a clan cheated himself into the final day of the tournament, sending home other clans that all deserved more to have progressed than this clan.

Even worse, they damage the image of the game and the good players. How often have I been called a cheater for a good hit or dodge? How often have players called to report a player, just because the landed a few citadels from 20km away, while their own aim is so poor, they cannot imagine anyone can do better than them. Events like this will not help us getting recognition of good play, but rather increase distrust and spite. That's sad.

 

Edit: Looking at some replays, my impression is that this mod, if it was used, wasn't used systematically by the entire clan. Some players eat torps and long range hits, they would have avoided, had they had the information of this mod. Maybe that was the core of the clans withdrawal, that some used it and others didn't know and this social house of cards collapsed.

[ImperialAdmiral]

That is why non EU players alt account teams should be banned from participating in KOTS. 

 

Like what is the point even? Proving something to themselves? People won't remember them after a week of memeing on reddit and besides all the prizes would go to lets say it out loud BOT accounts that would be never used again.

 

 

[Allied_Winter]

Morning folks.

 

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