Mainz has entered the shop

[Smeggo]

The german CL Mainz has entered the shop.

Basically a light-cruiser-version of Hipper/Eugen (more but smaller guns, faster reload, less armor, less agile)

Her 12 150mm-guns don't require IFHE, that's nice.

 

I tested her, and while she has good stats on paper, I personally recommend waiting for the Tallinn (the russian version of the same ship, while still work-in-progress - has better guns, AA and radar)

[Jethro_Grey]

14 minutes ago, Smeggo said:

The german CL Mainz has entered the shop.

Basically a light-cruiser-version of Hipper/Eugen (more but smaller guns, faster reload, less armor, less agile)

Her 12 150mm-guns don't require IFHE, that's nice.

 

I tested her, and while she has good stats on paper, I personally recommend waiting for the Tallinn (the russian version of the same ship, while still work-in-progress - has better guns, AA and radar)

Well, Mainz is a work-horse.

Means, you have to work like a horse to make her work.

 

DO NOT BUY!!

 

And yeah, Tallinn is russian, thus better in every regard because russian.

 

[hellhound666]

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

And yeah, Tallinn is russian, thus better in every regard because russian.

 

and free

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 4 Minuten, Jethro_Grey sagte:

Well, Mainz is a work-horse.

Means, you have to work like a horse to make her work.

 

DO NOT BUY!!

 

And yeah, Tallinn is russian, thus better in every regard because russian.

 

She is a monster penning 38mm without IFHE, having higher dpm than chapayev and a fire chance of 11% with Demo expert and flags. 

 

If she's not OP enough for you then Idk

[I0I_KK_I0I]

Yep, wait for the better russian version of the Mainz.

[Yedwy]

IDK she looks like a monster on paper? Heavy cruiser armor and 6 s reload on 12 6" guns, put Lutiens on and you will have Iron strike in no time making reload with some AR close to 5 s and that is not a joke with any 6" gun let alone the German "pen em all"

[Donar79]

Vor 1 Minute, Yedwy sagte:

IDK she looks like a monster on paper? Heavy cruiser armor and 6 s reload on 12 6" guns, put Lutiens on and you will have Iron strike in no time making reload with some AR close to 5 s and that is not a joke with any 6" gun let alone the German "pen em all"

I guess we will see soon but... if wg remains true to himself then she looks good on paper and thats it. I think the Russian equivalent will show how the package has to be packed.

[Excavatus]

I've tested her.. 
she was amazing.. 

but you need to stay alive for that damage to pile up. 

and her range can be problematic from time to time..

 

[Yedwy]

5 minutes ago, Donar79 said:

I guess we will see soon but... if wg remains true to himself then she looks good on paper and thats it. I think the Russian equivalent will show how the package has to be packed.

Well I looked at wiki specs and descriptions of the ship seems she doesnt have QUITE the CA armor (that Tallin might or might not sport) but the reload is insane...

 

Low alpha on HE shells is the "fun police" though

 

3 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

I've tested her.. 
she was amazing.. 

but you need to stay alive for that damage to pile up. 

and her range can be problematic from time to time..

She has as much range as any T8 cruiser can offer?

 

At least without spotter...

[HaachamaShipping]

15 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

IDK she looks like a monster on paper? Heavy cruiser armor and 6 s reload on 12 6" guns, put Lutiens on and you will have Iron strike in no time making reload with some AR close to 5 s and that is not a joke with any 6" gun let alone the German "pen em all"

And if you ever get close enough, the AP dpm obviously is off the charts, while even closer you get 6 fish per side.

[Jethro_Grey]

37 minutes ago, Yoshanai said:

She is a monster penning 38mm without IFHE, having higher dpm than chapayev and a fire chance of 11% with Demo expert and flags. 

 

If she's not OP enough for you then Idk

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 16 Minuten, Jethro_Grey sagte:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

 

Exceptionally constructive reply. 

I guess because you might see yourself having trouble with a certain ship you project that on everyone. You might overestimate yourself. 

[Bics93]

53 minuti fa, Jethro_Grey ha scritto:

DO NOT BUY!!

 

And yeah, Tallinn is russian, thus better in every regard because russian

 

Tallin is an AP focused ship as it has only 133k HE DPM with 30mm pen compared to 204k with 38mm pen of the Mainz, (which can also be boosted by a 7,5% with Lutjens); with this fire rate and 11% fire chance Mainz is one of the best fire-starter at tier 8, being beaten only by non-IFHE Cleveland and non-IFHE Bayard...

Also, at close range you have more than 400k AP DPM (Hindenburg AP DPM) which is a massive number if you can get some juicy broadside, considering Mainz has Chapayev ballistics on its AP... 

 

Better check the numbers next time 

[Jethro_Grey]

8 minutes ago, Yoshanai said:

Exceptionally constructive reply. 

I guess because you might see yourself having trouble with a certain ship you project that on everyone. You might overestimate yourself. 

Constructive? I don't reply to comments that are either funny or nonsense (Mainz OP) with constructive replys. 

[Panocek]

41 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

IDK she looks like a monster on paper? Heavy cruiser armor and 6 s reload on 12 6" guns, put Lutiens on and you will have Iron strike in no time making reload with some AR close to 5 s and that is not a joke with any 6" gun let alone the German "pen em all"

If WoWsft is any correct, Mainz have improved shells over Nurnberg, solving issue of losing too much speed (and thus, penetration) with range. So 12gun rapid firing, 38mm pen by default with terrifying AP damage output against all-or-nothing armored ships

 

Tallin have only AP pen at her side, something not quite relevant when target is angled.

[Jethro_Grey]

9 minutes ago, Bics93 said:

 

Tallin is an AP focused ship as it has only 133k HE DPM with 30mm pen compared to 204k with 38mm pen of the Mainz, (which can also be boosted by a 7,5% with Lutjens); with this fire rate and 11% fire chance Mainz is one of the best fire-starter at tier 8, being beaten only by non-IFHE Cleveland and non-IFHE Bayard...

Also, at close range you have more than 400k AP DPM (Hindenburg AP DPM) which is a massive number if you can get some juicy broadside, considering Mainz has Chapayev ballistics on its AP... 

 

Better check the numbers next time 

Theoretical values.

Pls put that into mactual damage numbers in game, post some pics and then we can talk.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, Jethro_Grey sagte:

Constructive? I don't reply to comments that are either funny or nonsense (Mainz OP) with constructive replys. 

You are not making a good case for yourself. She is probably the strongest T8 Cruiser on paper. 

[Jethro_Grey]

Just now, Yoshanai said:

You are not making a good case for yourself. She is probably the strongest T8 Cruiser on paper. 

Exactly.

On paper. Like all german ships.

[fumtu]

40 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Well I looked at wiki specs and descriptions of the ship seems she doesnt have QUITE the CA armor (that Tallin might or might not sport) but the reload is insane...

 

I don't know if IFHE had any impact on Mainz armour but by last know values, Mainz and Tallinn literally had same armour everywhere except for turrets. 

[Bics93]

1 minuto fa, Jethro_Grey ha scritto:

Theoretical values.

Pls put that into mactual damage numbers in game, post some pics and then we can talk.

 

Nah, I gave you the numbers, you ignore them, so I’ll just argument like you did: HAHAHAHAHAHA! 

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Exactly.

On paper. Like all german ships.

No, most of the German ships with issues have those also on paper.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, Jethro_Grey sagte:

Exactly.

On paper. Like all german ships.

It depends on the player to do the rest of the work. 

A potato in a Belfast is still a potato. 

The ship itself doesn't win games. 

 

[CptBarney]

so...is mainz op den?

 

halp.

[Nov_A]

That would explain the insane amount of Mainz I faced.

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, CptBarney sagte:

so...is mainz op den?

 

halp.

Yes possibly.