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Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

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2 minutes ago, ilektrologos said:

Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

Beside the fact they never tell chances they told us that free containers will be enough to get T5 for sure - and as far as I got it it's true - as in your case. It's imho at least better than in the past where it could happen that you won't receive any EA-ship.

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1 minute ago, Wizard27_1979 said:

Beside the fact they never tell chances they told us that free containers will be enough to get T5 for sure - and as far as I got it it's true - as in your case. It's imho at least better than in the past where it could happen that you won't receive any EA-ship.

Im sorry mate but that isnt an excuse. if i wanted only the tier 5 i d stop doing those ridiculus directives from the beginning. Its only like 50k free exp ffs.... Im furius right now with all those roulette, hacking rewards which occupy my time in a foolish hope of some excitement...

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4 minutes ago, Wizard27_1979 said:

Beside the fact they never tell chances they told us that free containers will be enough to get T5 for sure - and as far as I got it it's true - as in your case. It's imho at least better than in the past where it could happen that you won't receive any EA-ship.

Yet it still feels like gambling... Because of the huge difference in drop chance..... Make it a fixed amount in all containers... Or simply make some missions that unlock T-V and IV and offer the rest for money

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Just now, ilektrologos said:

Im sorry mate but that isnt an excuse. if i wanted only the tier 5 i d stop doing those ridiculus directives from the beginning. Its only like 50k free exp ffs.... Im furius right now with all those roulette, hacking rewards which occupy my time in a foolish hope of some excitement...

I'm not excusing - I don't like the Early-Access-Events either. It was fun when the RN-BB were introduced but now again being able to "buy" the T9 for everyone as it was with Kleber is not the sort of EA I prefer. 

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2 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said:

Yet it still feels like gambling... Because of the huge difference in drop chance..... Make it a fixed amount in all containers... Or simply make some missions that unlock T-V and IV and offer the rest for money

Exactly. As we had with RN-BB - some blueprints could be achieved and I was fine with it. But I fear this company has to earn some money and there are a lot of players who willingly pay - saw a bunch of Östergötlands already. 

If I would not like this game very much and if I weren't able to buy content whenever I want to I'd be pi...d too when I was unlucky with drops. 

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2 minutes ago, Wizard27_1979 said:

Exactly. As we had with RN-BB - some blueprints could be achieved and I was fine with it. But I fear this company has to earn some money and there are a lot of players who willingly pay - saw a bunch of Östergötlands already. 

If I would not like this game very much and if I weren't able to buy content whenever I want to I'd be pi...d too when I was unlucky with drops. 

Exactly RN BB the only " early" access event that felt good. I saw Östergötlands first day in the patch so someone spend a lot the first day

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To be honest don't see the reason why you can start the grind in any new line at T-VIII or IX don't make any sense at all

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12 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said:

To be honest don't see the reason why you can start the grind in any new line at T-VIII or IX don't make any sense at all

Because beer and ladies of negotiable affection proverbially won't pay for themselves...

 

FWIW I feel the current iteration of early release isn't too bad, in that pretty much everyone who plays will get the T5 (and presumably its permaflage); after that, you either get lucky or pay money for the higher tiers, but that's just the ships - if you want the cammo, you still have to play a fair bit; I haven't checked all of them, but I think I earned enough xp in the T5-7 to unlock the next tier (guessing a bit) whilst getting the permaflage for each.

 

Apart from the RNG element vis-a-vis tokens, I think this sort of general approach ought to be encouraged, as it encourages you in turn to play the middle tiers at least, so learning the basics of the line before you jump into the scary tiers where not knowing what you're doing is more of a liability to your team-mates.

 

For me, personally, I'm quite keen to jump past T1-4 at least - it means I miss the T4 CV plague!

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1 hour ago, ilektrologos said:

Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

Why are you spending time on the directives?

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3 hours ago, ilektrologos said:

Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

Opened my 6 from the third directive.

10-10-10-20-10-10

Looking at what I can get in the 1000 dabloo n bundle.....20!?

Thanks but no thanks!

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Vor 3 Stunden, ilektrologos sagte:

I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

You have to be a genius to play the game without finishing the direktives. And if you dont care about the ships, why are you complaining? 

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3 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Do not play the game when you do not want to play it...

OP´s problem is not playing the game, the problem is being excited for something that turns out to be a disappointment.

 

WarGambling makes us horny for some realistic, achievable goals which in sum yield new ships with perma-camos - nice!

But then, no, only if you pay or are reaaaaally lucky.

Or frankly, just pay.

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4 minutes ago, VIadoCro said:

OP´s problem is not playing the game, the problem is being excited for something that turns out to be a disappointment.

 

WarGambling makes us horny for some realistic, achievable goals which in sum yield new ships with perma-camos - nice!

But then, no, only if you pay or are reaaaaally lucky.

Or frankly, just pay.

He is complaining about playing for directives, which makes only sense when he is not playing for fun. 

When you do not play for fun, do not play the game.

 

Btw. I average around 3 matches per day the last weeks and finished all directives in time. 

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The less you know the more WG makes...They are a business, a shady one but still a business

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8 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

He is complaining about playing for directives, which makes only sense when he is not playing for fun. 

When you do not play for fun, do not play the game.

 

Btw. I average around 3 matches per day the last weeks and finished all directives in time. 

 

He’s actually complaining about the RNG of the EU containers. He then goes onto say that his time is precious and that if he’s using it to complete directives he would expect better rewards.

 

Do you ever read what people say, or are you just ready to give negative, unconstructive, unwanted criticism at every turn?

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1 minute ago, Zip__ said:

 

He’s actually complaining about the RNG of the EU containers. He then goes onto say that his time is precious and that if he’s using it to complete directives he would expect better rewards.

 

Do you ever read what people say, or are you just ready to give negative, unconstructive, unwanted criticism at every turn?

That is one of the things he complains about...

He seems to be a player with many issues. I did not write about all of them.

 

And you seem to have trouble reading what I wrote. I specified what I am writing about...

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WG tests different ways of monetization, which is perfectly fine I think. They will monitor results and if a significant majority of players doesn't like this method and reacts with their wallets, they'll know.

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3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

That is one of the things he complains about...

He seems to be a player with many issues. I did not write about all of them.

 

And you seem to have trouble reading what I wrote. I specified what I am writing about...


I have no trouble reading what you wrote. You think you’re a smart guy with your words, but you’re really not. You read people’s posts and then try and make them look foolish by picking out a word or two and then be pedantic about it. I’m surprised you get away with it so often to be fair.

 

Anyway, I don’t want to derail the OPs thread. I’ve said what I want to say.

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10 minutes ago, Zip__ said:

I have no trouble reading what you wrote. 

Then spare me your false accusations...

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13 hours ago, ilektrologos said:

Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

I think you have had extreme bad Luck im afraid..

There is a high volume of the European DDs in the game that suggests most are having a much better time. Myself i have had 450 from 5  prem crates and and 1100 from the 15 normal crates so my average is 73 a crate.(i have had 4x140 drops) so 1550 in total, hoping to get  the 450 i need for the tier VIII in the next 10 crates.
for me personally this way is way better than the other methods we have had where i have struggled to get a single ship.
one improvement i would like to see is is not having to buy the ships sequentially. However if they did this i would guess the tier VIII and IX would be quite a bit more expensive.

 

Should the variance be less yes i think so. I think if you unlock all the crates you should be guaranteed at least the first 2 boats if not the first 3.

 

Lets hope you  luck changes a lot for the next 10.

 

As for spending time on the Directives.. sorry these directivies have been VERY well balanced to allow the crates to be unlocked with normal play.. and super easy to unlock if you have many ships and want to concentrate on individual missions.. Yes Smollensk im looking at you in CO-OP game for main battary hits. OK i have many many ships and i also have the Smalaand (tier X dd) but i did yestredays mission for 6 crated in a couple of hours and that was on the first day. If you have had 15 crates that means you finished the new directive in 1 day.. you have 6 days to the next mission drop so why try so hard...

 

WG have always had issues with the rendum number generators. In tanks after about 4 or 5 matches in a paticuler tank on a particuler map you could with a 90 certanty predict which side of that map you will sporn on. Ive always had good drops on crates containing resorces but always bad on ship drops. Once you account gets locked on a certain thing it seem sto stay there..

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15 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

As for spending time on the Directives.. sorry these directivies have been VERY well balanced to allow the crates to be unlocked with normal play.. and super easy to unlock if you have many ships and want to concentrate on individual missions.. Yes Smollensk im looking at you in CO-OP game for main battary hits. OK i have many many ships and i also have the Smalaand (tier X dd) but i did yestredays mission for 6 crated in a couple of hours and that was on the first day.

True, missions are doable even without access to the specific ship missions. And the premium time given to us by WG recently also helps all of us with the types that require you to collect x amount of xp or silver. Did directive 3 in a morning in coop. Friesland for 15 planes, fires and hits. Smolensk for more hits and dots. Finally Bismark, Masa, Tirpitz and JB for the remains secondaries. The five kills came at 2nd Friesland game.

 

If I did not have Friesland I would be 2/3 on credits and xp due to coop but still profiting from premium time.

 

Aka missions are relaxed,  it’s the rewards that are RNG. And to have a meaningful reward ( and in my book that’s T7 minimum) you need a fair amount of good luck that not many will have.. And then the main prize ( the permanent camo on that T7) would be a hard grind/race against the clock.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said:

True, missions are doable even without access to the specific ship missions. And the premium time given to us by WG recently also helps all of us with the types that require you to collect x amount of xp or silver. Did directive 3 in a morning in coop. Friesland for 15 planes, fires and hits. Smolensk for more hits and dots. Finally Bismark, Masa, Tirpitz and JB for the remains secondaries. The five kills came at 2nd Friesland game.

 

If I did not have Friesland I would be 2/3 on credits and xp due to coop but still profiting from premium time.

 

Aka missions are relaxed,  it’s the rewards that are RNG. And to have a meaningful reward ( and in my book that’s T7 minimum) you need a fair amount of good luck that not many will have.. And then the main prize ( the permanent camo on that T7) would be a hard grind/race against the clock.

 

 

One thing people are forgetting is what these directives are all about.. Thay are WG attempt to stager the release of a new tech line some what.. Us older players im sure remeber the old days of a tech line release where if first week tiers 2-6 were Full (50%+ of ships in que) of the new relased tech line. and later weeks the higher ships. God i remember the games when german BBs were released where there were 8 or 9 BB in a match and over half were german BBs.. if you qued up in the new ships you spent agies waiting for a match. I purposly used to avoid a new relaeased tech line for the patch after it was released and in doindg so enjoyed short wait times to get a macth. BBs had just been released  take a DD

This pre relase method has helped eleviate that a lot.

 

In resent releases we have got a prem ship and a commander out of these directives (normaly in stage 2 ) so i feel we have little to complain about. Though maybe WG shoudl stop teh 10 token drop min of 20 would garantee the tier V and VI if you get all the crates. But then i guess the higher drops  of 60+ would have to be rediced in the drop chance.

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15 hours ago, ilektrologos said:

Okay now its my turn. This is bloody outrageous... What is the hacking chance for token drops in european containers? Is it really so difficult for WG to announce those rates?! Okay i can accept this is rng wise situation but this is unbelievable; opening 15 containers and receive about 300 tokens... This is a slap in the face.  Better be honest than this shet, like : rate of receiving 10 tokens is 50% or tiers 7,8,9, is only for those who purchase bundles. I dont care about the ships, the time spent on those directives is precious; at least for me.

Every event follows the Puerto Rico formula in the future.  You get the tip for free but if you want the full shaft it costs 800 dollars.

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