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Hey I just got the Grozovoi and.....

 

Seriously... its has 720m turning radius ...

 

I took a few ships I got for reference and.. This is 10m worse then Neptune!

Charles Martel has even 690m

Grozovoi is a :etc_swear: DD for godsake!? What the hell happend?

 

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Well Grozovoi is a half-cruiser. Have you seen the size and armour of the thing?

Count your blessings. It is a light cruiser without a citadel.... :Smile_trollface:

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33 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

Seriously... its has 720m turning radius ...

 

Kebab (760) and Kléber (740) say "aww boohoohoo."

 

and that's not even mentioning the Hagumo and its 830m turning radius.

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Grozovoi is like a Drag Racer. Extremly fast in a straight line, not so good in a turn.

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God all this grinding for a DD I might not even use...

Im better off using my minotaur 660m turning radius and the twice hp, better AA and artillery.. what a shame..

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1 hour ago, Measuperbia said:

Hey I just got the Grozovoi and.....

 

Seriously... its has 720m turning radius ...

 

I took a few ships I got for reference and.. This is 10m worse then Neptune!

Charles Martel has even 690m

Grozovoi is a :etc_swear: DD for godsake!? What the hell happend?

 

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Anyone know how to aquire the mission for the legendary module? Yes I have regrinded by it still doesnt show....

It’s a large and fast DD, thus the large turning circle. 

 

You‘ll be able to get the LM from the armory starting end of this, start of next year. 

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28 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

God all this grinding for a DD I might not even use...

Im better off using my minotaur 660m turning radius and the twice hp, better AA and artillery.. what a shame..

Haven't you thought its brit cruisers that are overbuffed in terms of handling than large destroyers being fat as you'd expect from large destroyer?

 

And you're missing one tiny detail on Minotaur - citadel. Its hard to NOT hit it.

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37 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

God all this grinding for a DD I might not even use...

All this grinding for RN Heavy cruisers i might never use

And BBs i might never use.

 

Grozovoi is a great DD and pretty competitive.

Good blend of concealment, speed and guns, with a heal. Takes some getting used to if you are used to the nimble ones. 

If you want significantly more nimble dds with better stealth, then USN and UK dds are the only ones.

All the others bar Shima are fairly big and clunky. 

 

Also it does not have citadel like Mino that starts somewhere above the funnel.

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Well JB(im sure alot other BBs too) with HE can easily do 10k dmg in one salvo.

Grozovoi has 19-24k hp... this is just equal to a citadel hit when/if comparing with a Minotaur..

 

Grozovoi lacks alot of firepower when facing any 4-5 turret DD

 

Edit: also russian DDs dont have hydro which is a significant weakspot (though im not complaining about this) just to mention when comparing.

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54 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

God all this grinding for a DD I might not even use...

Im better off using my minotaur 660m turning radius and the twice hp, better AA and artillery.. what a shame..

Yes it is sort of comparable... except Minotaur HAS a citadel, and you'll know it.... :Smile_playing:

Man the times I have been blapped. I think ALL my games in Mino end that way.

I still like it though... :Smile-_tongue:

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15 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

Well JB(im sure alot other BBs too) with HE can easily do 10k dmg in one salvo.

Surely not when you either sit 8-10 km away in smoke or zip around at 12+ km and actively turn to evade his shots.....

 

As for firepower, Grozo can deal with any other DD including Khaba, Kleber and Harugumo if played properly and not ambushed (which shouldnt happen, since there is room for RPF in the build). Only Daring or full gunboat Gearing gives it problems. Harugumo and Kleber can be tricky though.

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2 hours ago, Measuperbia said:

Grozovoi is a :etc_swear: DD for godsake!? What the hell happend?

As others have said, you're gloriously fast in a straight line (fit the coal speed boost upgrade and the 'go faster' signal and it would be ridiculous if the French DDs didn't exist, and they don't get smoke); play around that, rather than the insane zigzagging of more nimble lines. Fast attacking slashes in straight lines between cover seem to work pretty well.

 

I'm slightly biased as Groz was my first T10, and I still have a bit of a soft-spot for her. Now she gets a heal, she's a pretty decent boat - fast, useful dakka, smoke, and the torps are vaguely worthwhile too, if you want to be sneaky. No citadel, which is not to be sniffed at, and you aren't occupying a cruiser slot either.

 

I should mention that I'm not a good player though, so if you are of a higher standard, you might get better results elsewhere if something else matches your play style more exactly.

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21 minutes ago, Measuperbia said:

Well JB(im sure alot other BBs too) with HE can easily do 10k dmg in one salvo.

Mate I can BLAP a Klebby or Shima with one salvo from Conqkek and I often do. 

We had a Clan Battle and the reds took 6 DDs. I blapped 2, and almost 3 (3rd was a Daring and he had a heal). 

Never can blap a Grozovoi. At least, I never managed it so far. They whacked me often enough though.

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Vor 5 Stunden, lafeel sagte:

Kebab (760) and Kléber (740) say "aww boohoohoo."

 

and that's not even mentioning the Hagumo and its 830m turning radius.

Wait, Haru can actually turn? I just tend to sail in a straight line and stop now and then for a smoke.

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1 minute ago, thisismalacoda said:

Wait, Haru can actually turn? I just tend to sail in a straight line and stop now and then for a smoke.

Yes, it can, just not very well.

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6 hours ago, Measuperbia said:

God all this grinding for a DD I might not even use...

Im better off using my minotaur 660m turning radius and the twice hp, better AA and artillery.. what a shame..

The information was not hidden.

Why were you doing it in the first place?

 

You played Minsk, which had 690m...

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Well the minsk didnt feel this bad...(simply talking about turning radius)

Maybe there is a magic border around ~700

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Measuperbia said:

Well the minsk didnt feel this bad...(simply talking about turning radius)

Maybe there is a magic border around ~700

 

It is the SPEED. If you slow down, the turning radius gets tighter. 

Try "pulling the handbrake" on Grozovoi, I always do it with everything. 

Cheesed many shots... completely missed me (even in a big fat BB). 

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It's Russian and has Russian qualities (not looking at you, BB line). Shchors has 900 m turning circle radius, worse than BBs up to T9. The Stalingrad and Moskva are in a league with CVs.

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That is because you do not play it rightly and SELFISH: USE THIS BUILD.

Also if you are into destroyer watch NA CC destroyer Kuroshiokay he is a very very good dd player.

 

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On 3/23/2020 at 4:49 PM, Animalul2012 said:

That is because you do not play it rightly and SELFISH: USE THIS BUILD.

Also if you are into destroyer watch NA CC destroyer Kuroshiokay he is a very very good dd player.

 

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Isn't better to slot concealment instead of AFT? The stock range is good enough, ballistics are more than enough and in case you need it you have smoke. I play the kleber without AFT and without smoke or heal and still is more than enough.

 

I'm asking cos I'm in the Ognevoi and enjoying it so far. Looking forward to the space soviet DD.

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I have never played ognevoi(used free xp and got udaloi) but you should build it as a torpedo boat and definetly use concealment expert. 

I tried playing grozovoi without AFT but the stock range felt too short for me and after all this is a gunboat destroyer and unlike the khabarovsk you do not eat penetrations from 283mm guns and above, dont forget that you also get smoke and heal in separate slots.

I recommend watching this player if you are interested in destroyer gameplay, I learned quite a lot from him.

 

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