[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #1 Posted March 22, 2020 And it's awesome. a droplet of water in a desert And there are several build possibilities in one ship. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,919 battles Report post #2 Posted March 22, 2020 Congrats and good luck with her. :) Those cute little monsters are pretty fun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #3 Posted March 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Butterdoll said: And it's awesome. a droplet of water in a desert And there are several build possibilities in one ship. What is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #4 Posted March 22, 2020 I'm bad at seeing what.. Akizuki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #5 Posted March 22, 2020 yeap, akizuki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #6 Posted March 22, 2020 Ah, the aki... (breaks down deeply moved) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #7 Posted March 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Butterdoll said: yeap, akizuki. that's only a dakka dakka ship though 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #8 Posted March 22, 2020 Congrats with her. It's my favorite line to reset in the RB. Extremely reliable carry potential, very good general purpose guns that can take down any ship. Tier 8-10 are definitely the most fun little monsters in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #9 Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, loppantorkel said: that's only a dakka dakka ship though right.. the real dakka dakka dakka is of course... wait for it... the Krispy Kreme! ^v^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #10 Posted March 22, 2020 This ship it's truly awesome I didn't feel this for a IJN ship since Kuma, in fact, Akizuki it's up there with Kuma, they are a love letter to us. What do you think about this build? Please note I didn't make my mind about IFHE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #11 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Butterdoll said: This ship it's truly awesome I didn't feel this for a IJN ship since Kuma, in fact, Akizuki it's up there with Kuma, they are a love letter to us. What do you think about this build? Please note I didn't make my mind about IFHE Get camo instead RPF. While Akizuki and her knockoffs aren't "true" DDs, having camo to semi comfortably cap comes handy more often than it should be. Last points into SI and PM I guess, Akizukis do love smoke when no convenient island is available... which may or may not be their demise from torps. Personally I'm disappointed with Harugumo, mostly because Daring exists and Kitakaze is a thing at tier lower. Yes, Harugumo can brutalize cruisers, no, she can't gtfo fast enough from smoke when sonar operator starts sweating. Also being limited to 3/4 normal smokes after playing so much with Brits feels like a handicap. On IFHE, I start leaning towards ignoring it on CLs, as fire penalty is massive and when facing RU/US/Ger BB you don't get much in the way of benefits from it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #12 Posted March 22, 2020 No daka there. That is actually an aki aki aki ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #13 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Butterdoll said: This ship it's truly awesome I didn't feel this for a IJN ship since Kuma, in fact, Akizuki it's up there with Kuma, they are a love letter to us. CE is a must. Aki is slow as F and clunky too. Easy to permaspot for other DDs. IFHE is also a must imo. Farm BBs and also deck plate of tier VIII-X cruisers for the price of 2% fire chance is very, very worth it. Recommend to forget RPF if you are used to playing DDs. Turret travese is fast enough you dont need it. If you get a taste for farming BBs, AFT can be worth it, but personally i prefer max dakka with BFT + AR This is what i use 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #14 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Panocek said: Get camo instead RPF. While Akizuki and her knockoffs aren't "true" DDs, having camo to semi comfortably cap comes handy more often than it should be. Last points into SI and PM I guess, Akizukis do love smoke when no convenient island is available... which may or may not be their demise from torps. Personally I'm disappointed with Harugumo, mostly because Daring exists and Kitakaze is a thing at tier lower. Yes, Harugumo can brutalize cruisers, no, she can't gtfo fast enough from smoke when sonar operator starts sweating. Also being limited to 3/4 normal smokes after playing so much with Brits feels like a handicap. On IFHE, I start leaning towards ignoring it on CLs, as fire penalty is massive and when facing RU/US/Ger BB you don't get much in the way of benefits from it. My train of thought but I'm inexperient in dds Well, my actual concealment it's at 6.8 km with the module and camo, pretty much service from what I've seen. A gunships has always a worse concealment than it's prey, so the RPF will give me some feedback to where the closest ship is, if I'm in a smoke or having some kind of feedback when or if I don't have anything more to use. and 6.8 it's good enough against other classes. I have SI in my actual build and I'm thinking of dropping it in favour of AR and BFT for the guns, to have a reload around about 2. something seconds. Focusing on the guns I happily would have shorter range torps for longer smokes. Brit smoke...nah, I don't get it. Maybe, what may feel like a handicap it's not that excuse for smoke but the hydro? which can neutralize that 2.5 km detection from smoke while you don't have that option leaving you in a disadvantage and Daring can be equally nasty in gun power. But there's a lot of things I can't test, one of them being against hydro. So, it's all pretty much in theory I pump so much shells in a game that I simply don't miss the IFHE, I get 11 fires or about that number. LWM says to get it but she says to not get it if it's a torp boat, but against t9 or t10 the gains are null, so, I don't know. @GulvkluderGuld What is your concealment? I use RPF in many of my cruisers, I hunt them when and if I can , but I never stay perma spotted but when a dd, I don't know...... This ship can have several builds, I'm still deciding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #15 Posted March 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Butterdoll said: What is your concealment? I use RPF in many of my cruisers, I hunt them when and if I can , but I never stay perma spotted but when a dd, I don't know...... This ship can have several builds, I'm still deciding. 6.0-6.2, cant remember. Sometimes you are the only DD on the team and will have to do the spotting and capping. Having the stealth helps with that. Having RPF can probably substitute reasonably well. But if you are force to play DD style, a Lightning, Cossack, Kagero are both faster and around 1-1,5 km stealthier than 6,8 km and can keep you spotted all game long, whatever you try to do to shake them, since they're also faster. Not a problem if top tier, granted, since you can simply kill whatever they're spotting you for. But if it's a Smolensk, or enough ships start throwing shells at Aki...it doesnt dodge very well. If you decide to stick without CE i'll be curious how you deal with being the only DD. My experience with Kleber/Khaba is that it isnt fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #16 Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, GulvkluderGuld said: 6.0-6.2, cant remember. Sometimes you are the only DD on the team and will have to do the spotting and capping. Having the stealth helps with that. Having RPF can probably substitute reasonably well. But if you are force to play DD style, a Lightning, Cossack, Kagero are both faster and around 1-1,5 km stealthier than 6,8 km and can keep you spotted all game long, whatever you try to do to shake them, since they're also faster. Not a problem if top tier, granted, since you can simply kill whatever they're spotting you for. But if it's a Smolensk, or enough ships start throwing shells at Aki...it doesnt dodge very well. If you decide to stick without CE i'll be curious how you deal with being the only DD. My experience with Kleber/Khaba is that it isnt fun. I can't answer that, yet. I'm still in testing but I'm aware there are things that will work differently in a real game. the only time I was against a Smolensk I had to sink the other Akizuki then I was runned over by a teammate out of my own smoke. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #17 Posted March 23, 2020 Hello OP, Good for you, you'll love that line. BTW, I've edited your title, just to find a reason not to close this announcement thread :P Jokes aside, aki is a monster. Just don't over extend yourself. oh and, always remember, it is a floating brick! does not like to turn so much.. but thats a good thing, it will prepare you for the harugumo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #18 Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Butterdoll said: Brit smoke...nah, I don't get it. 7 quickly recharging smokes means you can spam them at your leisure. CV incoming? Smoke. Opportunity to pew pew? Smoke. Breaking off detection during gtfo? Smoke. Yes, smoke last 40s, but that can be a positive - by time most torps arrive, smoke is gone so are you. Also you're not "locked" to one location as with normal smokes should enemies sail away of your gun range And number of CV players aware of how brit smoke works can be counted with fingers on one hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #19 Posted March 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Butterdoll said: yeap, akizuki. Well, its one of the better ships to put Yamamoto in to trigger his special talents. Gotten both First blood and the Kraken triggers in so many games with her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #20 Posted March 23, 2020 13 hours ago, GulvkluderGuld said: CE is a must. Aki is slow as F and clunky too. Easy to permaspot for other DDs. IFHE is also a must imo. Farm BBs and also deck plate of tier VIII-X cruisers for the price of 2% fire chance is very, very worth it. Recommend to forget RPF if you are used to playing DDs. Turret travese is fast enough you dont need it. If you get a taste for farming BBs, AFT can be worth it, but personally i prefer max dakka with BFT + AR This is what i use IMO best build, allows for some cap presence and still can punish BBs hard when in range which is decent, those that want to farm BBs predominantly can swich CE for AFT 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,919 battles Report post #21 Posted March 23, 2020 Note that DE is a viable alternative for BFT especially after the IFHE changes. That being said I prefer the extra DPM BFT awards over some more DOT as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #22 Posted March 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Butterdoll said: Well, my actual concealment it's at 6.8 km with the module and camo, pretty much service from what I've seen. Until you run into a Harugumo. CE is highly recommended for Aki and Kitakaze. I play without IFHE and it works quite well for me, remember you have a '2' key. No superintendent, I have BFT + AFT. 15 km of dakka against BigBoats, enough time to dodge their shells. This build works for me, ymmv. There is a lot of viable builds for this ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #23 Posted March 23, 2020 Enjoy your dakka :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #24 Posted March 23, 2020 Good thing if you prefer to play coop is that you can totally ignore concealment and go maximum dakka... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOZFFVII Players 2,848 posts 5,365 battles Report post #25 Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 4:04 PM, Butterdoll said: a droplet of water in a desert Surprise Persona 5. I didn't see that one coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
