Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #11626 Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Nibenay78 said: Just have the entire capacity of planes take off and kill us and let it be overwith. 36 torpedo wing from Kaga be like: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,899 battles Report post #11627 Posted August 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Panocek said: 36 torpedo wing from Kaga be like: Well, I suppose the most the CV would be able to do is obliterate 3 ships - one from rockets, the other from torps and the last from dive/skip bombs. As @Nibenay78 points out, it would get the prolonged misery out of the way and the remaining ships can then sigh with relief and get on with enjoying the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #11628 Posted August 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Well, I suppose the most the CV would be able to do is obliterate 3 ships - one from rockets, the other from torps and the last from dive/skip bombs. As @Nibenay78 points out, it would get the prolonged misery out of the way and the remaining ships can then sigh with relief and get on with enjoying the match. Faster way to get into a CV free match... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HTBT] TheBudgieAdmiral Players 28 posts 12,514 battles Report post #11629 Posted September 1, 2022 Am 21.8.2022 um 12:32, FukushuNL sagte: Sadly, you left out one of the main problems of the current CVs, which is a huge buff to their team already: spotting power. Your whole CV bit would be correct if CVs wouldn't have the spotting power they have now. The main problem that CVs have when it comes to the balance between CVs and the other classes, is the amount of spotting they can do in a short amount of time all over the map and from impunity. The main power from CVs is that they can spot for their team. This shows the whole of the enemy team's movement where the CV's team can base their strategy on, but above all this enables massive amounts of damage through focus fire from cover from the CV's team. And this even happens when the CV isn't trying to support their team by spotting. Honestly, be glad that you have a friendly CV to scout and don't have to rely on your DDs to do it for you, cause a lot of the time they die too early. Otherwise, having to shoot and expose yourself as a cruiser without knowing what will shoot back is gonna be a rough ride for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GLAWS] Captain_Lootbox Players 335 posts 6,499 battles Report post #11630 Posted September 1, 2022 4 hours ago, TheBudgieAdmiral said: Honestly, be glad that you have a friendly CV to scout and don't have to rely on your DDs to do it for you, cause a lot of the time they die too early. Otherwise, having to shoot and expose yourself as a cruiser without knowing what will shoot back is gonna be a rough ride for you. If only DDs could scout from the safety of the back of the map then we wouldn’t need CVS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K3RLS] MarChil Players 509 posts 13,275 battles Report post #11631 Posted September 2, 2022 23 hours ago, TheBudgieAdmiral said: cause a lot of the time they die too early. Because a flyboy is spotting them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #11632 Posted September 2, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 7:30 PM, TheBudgieAdmiral said: Honestly, be glad that you have a friendly CV to scout and don't have to rely on your DDs to do it for you, cause a lot of the time they die too early. Otherwise, having to shoot and expose yourself as a cruiser without knowing what will shoot back is gonna be a rough ride for you. Funny thing, this already happens when there is NO CV in play. Usually, the DD - even if it quickly suicides - give you a chance get an idea what ship is where (especially if you use your mini-map). And usually the cruisers that get into immediate trouble are the ones that are just as suicidal as the DD that got killed immediately (in other words, pretty much charge in like bots and straight line). The vast majority of BB blaps on a Cruiser in a single salvo that I have done early in the game (say first 5 minutes) have been enabled by the CV - either because the CV kept them perma-spotted, or the short spotting alerted me there might be a cruiser near point A, make me pre-turn my turrets, so I could pull the trigger almost immediately when the cruiser was spotted again. Quite often using a spotter plane in advance; this denied the cruiser the time to react to being spotted / being targeted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOKUM] Seedling Players 102 posts 8,760 battles Report post #11633 Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 12:17 AM, Captain_Lootbox said: If only DDs could scout from the safety of the back of the map then we wouldn’t need CVS. If only CVs weren't spotted across the map, we wouldn't need DDs to keep the enemy from crossing the centerline... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #11634 Posted September 4, 2022 Nakhimov is underpowered and needs a buff 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TWIN-] Reynarth Players 21 posts 3,296 battles Report post #11635 Posted September 4, 2022 CV and SuperCV Cancer made in Wargaming !!!! 14k+ rocket dmg in 1 pass from United States SuperCV Hakurya Triple pass with same squadron over my Thunderer with AA perks boost !!! 35k dmg torp with 5 torps and 35% dmg reduction versus Torpedoes EVEN ON POTATOES SIDE WITH AVERAGE 750 BASE EXP !!! MALTA CV IS FARMING QUIETLY AND SCORING A 1k500 BASE EXP AND SINKING 3 SHIPS !!!!!! WARGAMING CANCER AT THE FINEST !!!! Bonus Track : CV + Double Sub !!!! Double CV Double SUBS !!!! ...... ..... ..... i have a very long list of how wargaming is cancering WoWS Keep up the good work WARGAMING !!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #11636 Posted September 5, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 11:07 PM, Panocek said: 36 torpedo wing from Kaga be like: I just considered the torpedo drop from FDR as I saw this post again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #11637 Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said: I just considered the torpedo drop from FDR as I saw this post again... Tbh I'd be much more scared of 24x TB squadron from Hakuryu. FDR might drop a lot of fishes, but individually they are rather weak. Hakuryu ones on other hand... Sure, theoretical damage is very much in FDR favor (21*4*4233=355572 instead 24*1*9333=223992), but Hakuryu can consistently plant its torps on any target, while FDR needs battleship sized target to have real hope of landing most of its torps and I suspect this trend would continue for "full squadron attacks" Still, 84 torps in one go is probably going to be sight to see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOKUM] Seedling Players 102 posts 8,760 battles Report post #11638 Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 6:12 PM, Reynarth said: 14k+ rocket dmg in 1 pass from United States SuperCV That's 1 AP shell from a tier X BB worth of damage... what is your point? On 9/4/2022 at 6:12 PM, Reynarth said: Hakurya Triple pass with same squadron over my Thunderer with AA perks boost !!! 35k dmg torp with 5 torps and 35% dmg reduction versus Torpedoes A Haku torp flight has 6 attacks of 2 planes, each plane drops 1 torpedo, and each torpedo does 9333 damage. His commander has Proximity Fuze, so your torp reduction is reduced to 25%. 9x5x0.75 = 35k damage, just a few more hp then needed to sink your low health bb. Given that this guy has a WR of 57.7 and 20k battles, you can assume he has a 21 point commander with all the damage reductions skills as well as the knowledge how to attack a sub 50 WR lone BB. Had these been dd torps, you'd be sunk from full health and were already dead the moment that dd launched the torps. On 9/4/2022 at 6:12 PM, Reynarth said: EVEN ON POTATOES SIDE WITH AVERAGE 750 BASE EXP !!! MALTA CV IS FARMING QUIETLY AND SCORING A 1k500 BASE EXP AND SINKING 3 SHIPS !!!!!! WARGAMING CANCER AT THE FINEST !!!! That Malta player is one of the top ranking players on the EU server... and even he couldn't carry your team of scrubs. Dude, just face it.. you were a lowly ant in a battle between giants.. so git gut, scrub. Scream all you like, your gods won't hear you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #11639 Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Panocek said: Still, 84 torps in one go is probably going to be sight to see I had a screenshot back in the day when it was 4-5 shimakaze and we streamrolled the enemy. I think it was a lone Amagi left and 4 or 5 shimas launched at him more or less at the same time, with myself adding Zao torpedoes in the water. It looked a bit overkill. Sadly I deleted it by accident! 21 minutes ago, Seedling said: That's 1 AP shell from a tier X BB worth of damage... what is your point? CVs are a pest. 21 minutes ago, Seedling said: A Haku torp flight has 6 attacks of 2 planes, each plane drops 1 torpedo, and each torpedo does 9333 damage. His commander has Proximity Fuze, so your torp reduction is reduced to 25%. 9x5x0.75 = 35k damage, just a few more hp then needed to sink your low health bb. Given that this guy has a WR of 57.7 and 20k battles, you can assume he has a 21 point commander with all the damage reductions skills as well as the knowledge how to attack a sub 50 WR lone BB. Had these been dd torps, you'd be sunk from full health and were already dead the moment that dd launched the torps. One always dies to reasonably ok CVs 21 minutes ago, Seedling said: Dude, just face it.. you were a lowly ant in a battle between giants.. That's how it is playing non-CV when they are somewhat competent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LCBC] AraAra_My_Ass_Is_Blasted Players 105 posts 7,484 battles Report post #11640 Posted September 6, 2022 Il y a 14 heures, Seedling a dit : That's 1 AP shell from a tier X BB worth of damage... what is your point? A Haku torp flight has 6 attacks of 2 planes, each plane drops 1 torpedo, and each torpedo does 9333 damage. His commander has Proximity Fuze, so your torp reduction is reduced to 25%. 9x5x0.75 = 35k damage, just a few more hp then needed to sink your low health bb. Given that this guy has a WR of 57.7 and 20k battles, you can assume he has a 21 point commander with all the damage reductions skills as well as the knowledge how to attack a sub 50 WR lone BB. Had these been dd torps, you'd be sunk from full health and were already dead the moment that dd launched the torps. That Malta player is one of the top ranking players on the EU server... and even he couldn't carry your team of scrubs. Dude, just face it.. you were a lowly ant in a battle between giants.. so git gut, scrub. Scream all you like, your gods won't hear you. Can't believe you're actually serious and not seeing the issues in what you just wrote... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #11641 Posted September 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Nibenay78 said: I just considered the torpedo drop from FDR as I saw this post again... FDR torpedoes are kinda meh: - torps are slow... and good luck trying to hit them all, even an parked Stalingrad is too small; - Midway does same damage with less torpedoes and at least you can "fit" them all; - Haku does almost same damage with two, but you will receive six in 3 fast-following drops... - Both Midway and Haku do not have to lose half the squad because of slow incoming and following loitering... - ...never mention the Nahkimov! Oh wait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #11642 Posted September 7, 2022 Completely shut down yet again for most of the game by someone in sub with 700 battles (115 of which are in a T10 sub...) and 43% win rate, didnt manage to do a single point of damage to him yet he rained down torps non stop. Best thing is, i have had 6 days away from the game, and as soon as i logged in i get yet another WG survey about subs. The SAME survey i have filled in twice before... But... Pff... Only days ago we had "We know many people dont like subs, but what do you want us to do about it"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JOLLY] UnterSeeBot Players 967 posts Report post #11643 Posted September 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: Best thing is, i have had 6 days away from the game, and as soon as i logged in i get yet another WG survey about subs. The SAME survey i have filled in twice before... you will keep undergoing the same examination until you give the correct answers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] flip_66 Players 433 posts 15,920 battles Report post #11644 Posted September 7, 2022 Just had a game that lasted about 4 minutes for me because the other 400 PR carrier focussed me. Such a balanced and competetive class, thank you very much. It takes so much skill to play this ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #11645 Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, GordonsGekko said: Just had a game that lasted about 4 minutes for me because the other 400 PR carrier focussed me. Such a balanced and competetive class, thank you very much. It takes so much skill to play this ****. imagine getting killed by a 400pr CV .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] flip_66 Players 433 posts 15,920 battles Report post #11646 Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Youshanai said: imagine getting killed by a 400pr CV .... Yeah, someone like you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #11647 Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, GordonsGekko said: Yeah, someone like you Hey it must feel pretty good to be killed by someone like me though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] flip_66 Players 433 posts 15,920 battles Report post #11648 Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Youshanai said: Hey it must feel pretty good to be killed by someone like me though It never feels good being killed by a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #11649 Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GordonsGekko said: It never feels good being killed by a loser. thats good. I dont want you to feel good anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CUP2D] flip_66 Players 433 posts 15,920 battles Report post #11650 Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, Youshanai said: thats good. I dont want you to feel good anyway Why would I care what you want? Keep spending your life in a forum, Mr 6k posts weeb CV player :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
