General CV related discussions.

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

You do realise there are two CVs on the enemy team in that screenshot?

The four plane squadrons are from the Rhein. There was only one Rhein CV on that team. Next time - look closer before you barf out there were two CVs on the team. You can see from the screenshot there were four CVs in that battle yet each side had only one Rhein CV. Explain the enemy Rhein CV with four plane squadrons in the air at the same time. 

[Sunleader]

2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

The four plane squadrons are from the Rhein. There was only one Rhein CV on that team. Next time - look closer before you barf out there were two CVs on the team. You can see from the screenshot there were four CVs in that battle yet each side had only one Rhein CV. Explain the enemy Rhein CV with four plane squadrons in the air at the same time. 

 

1.

Except one of these 4 Squadrons reads "Langley" above it. Which is the other Enemy CV.

Which means its not from the Rhein.

 

And Guess what. Its also the only Squadron of a Different Type because its the Langleys HE Rockets....

 

Maybe your the one that should look Closer before you barf out there.

 

 

 

2.

The Answer to the 3 Squadrons of the Rhein (Which are all AP Rockets by the way) meanwhile is Fairly Simple.

In case you missed it.

But the CV itself is in the Picture there too.

And while you can only have 1 Active Squadron in the Air as a CV in the Reworked System.

That Squadron can have several Wings. Each of which will Return Seperately upon Dropping its Payload.

 

The Enemy CV here is Defending itself against one of your Teammates. 

He therefore Started 1 Squadron of Rocket Attackers. This Squadron for the Rhein has 6 Aircraft Organized into two Wings of 3 Aircraft each.

Now he made 1 Drop of Rockets on your Allies Ship. Then because his Aircraft were likely already Damaged he decied to Pull back the Remaining Wing because it would likely not be able to Perform a Turnaround and Drop again with Full Power.

Then he Starts a New Squadron instead. This Squadron you can actually See in your Screenshot is not Full. Only having 4 Aircraft because he didnt have enough Reserves anymore.

 

So now he has 2x Returning Wings of 3 Planes he cant Control and which are Automaticly Returning to his Ship. And he has 1 Active Squadron of Attack Aircraft which has just Taken off and which he controls.

 

 

 

 

[Bear__Necessities]

13 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it supposed to be impossible for reworked CVs to have four squadrons of planes in the air at the same time? I can see two - one returning & one departing the CV but four?

Proof that Wedgie allows a T4 CV to have four plane squadrons in the air at the same time: Screenshot;

Count them, two of two types of planes in the air at the same time  - for the enemy team, ofc, the team WG was giving the CHEAT to. I've never seen my team have four planes from the same CV in the air at the same time 

Ohhh you've been corrected as above. Maybe, just maybe you should hold back on claiming in every post the the game is out to cheat people. (For the record, don't stop. I find it hilarious reading your pointless inane and incorrect ramblings). 

[BLUB__BLUB]

12 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

While Youshanai does have almost about half his CV matches played in a division, you can also sort out by battles his CV stats and you'll find some CV with pretty high stats and pretty good to high battles number (Shokaku and Midway). Also looking at his WR in those CVs can give you an idea of how skilled a ship (especially, CV) player is.

When playing in a division, it depends usually on how much help your teammates need and what you are able/willing to give them. 

For example, they might need A LOT of help, in which case you spend most of the time helping them and not doing your own thing. 

 

And then they mighty be any good or not. If not, your WR will be lower in a division. Your damage might be lower as well.
If they are good though your WR will go up, but probably your damage will still suffer as they will take full advantage of your help. 

As in, you can make a ship turn sideways to your buddies, but your torpies will miss, and they will kill him while you keep him spotted.

Also, if you communicate that somebody just DCP'd your fire/flood then your divvies will re-set the fire (or finish him) and you will have none.

 

So yes playing in a div can up your WR but I find that lots of times it does not, and it always affects your damage.

Unless your divmates are actually good - in which case you BOTH can profit. 

[Reynarth]

This is the thrash dumpster location to thank Wargaming how wonderful  and the smart they are ? YES IT IS !!!!!

 

The great idea to introduce completely inbalanced T10 & 11 CV farming every tiers and more easily the undertierred players ???? OFC YES

 

that can perma spot everything on the entire map ? OFC YES

 

farm low tiers from the other side of the map without taking any risks ? OFC YES

 

be able to do  34k  dmg and 4 fires in 2  aoe bomb drops ? OFC YES ( Audacious dropping on my head twice incendiary bombs on my T9 Cruiser ....)

 

do triple pass on Battleship of the same tiers because AA is complete thrash even with AA perk boost and 90 score ? OFC YES

and the cherry on the top after being farmed as a low tiers, you have Wargaming customers inquery ? are  you satisfy being farmed by T11  Cruiser and T10 CV when you are T9 cruiser??? YES TYVM WARGAMING YOU ARE ON  THE VERGE OF YOUR SMARTNESS !!!!!! TY SO MUCH 

 

being even farmed by T8 Podeba targeting my Neptune T9 because this thing is completely broken as [edited]? OFC YES

 

double CV matchmaking ???? OFC YES

 

 

being in the loosing side  and scoring 1400 base xp at the opposite of the map playing Malta CV  and sinking 3 ships ??? OFC YES

BONUS TRACK 5 torp from Hakuryu = 34k dmg non my thunderer who has 35% dmg resist VERSUS TORPS ???? ?????? OFC YES

 

 

plethors of CV garbage i gonna share with this useless thread!!!!!

 

 

 

dudes i gonna post every day the glorious work of wargaming and assess their smartness !!!!!

 

enjoy

 

 

[Panzer_Guido]

3...2....1 Y*** coming in to defend "balans" and "skill"

[Yosha_AtaIante]

4 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

When playing in a division, it depends usually on how much help your teammates need and what you are able/willing to give them. 

For example, they might need A LOT of help, in which case you spend most of the time helping them and not doing your own thing. 

 

And then they mighty be any good or not. If not, your WR will be lower in a division. Your damage might be lower as well.
If they are good though your WR will go up, but probably your damage will still suffer as they will take full advantage of your help. 

As in, you can make a ship turn sideways to your buddies, but your torpies will miss, and they will kill him while you keep him spotted.

Also, if you communicate that somebody just DCP'd your fire/flood then your divvies will re-set the fire (or finish him) and you will have none.

 

So yes playing in a div can up your WR but I find that lots of times it does not, and it always affects your damage.

Unless your divmates are actually good - in which case you BOTH can profit. 

yah solo there is more dmg potential especially if your divmates are good its harder to get dmg. But solo is not as enjoyable as playing with friends. Friends seem to be a foreign concept for people who shame others for playing in divs thought. Quite sad.

[Dutchy_2019]

5 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

When playing in a division, it depends usually on how much help your teammates need and what you are able/willing to give them. 

For example, they might need A LOT of help, in which case you spend most of the time helping them and not doing your own thing. 

 

And then they mighty be any good or not. If not, your WR will be lower in a division. Your damage might be lower as well.
If they are good though your WR will go up, but probably your damage will still suffer as they will take full advantage of your help. 

As in, you can make a ship turn sideways to your buddies, but your torpies will miss, and they will kill him while you keep him spotted.

Also, if you communicate that somebody just DCP'd your fire/flood then your divvies will re-set the fire (or finish him) and you will have none.

 

So yes playing in a div can up your WR but I find that lots of times it does not, and it always affects your damage.

Unless your divmates are actually good - in which case you BOTH can profit. 

 

If the div is more than the sum of its parts, and you have some skill, your WinRate will be significantly higher than when playing alone for most players. Sure, if you are the weakest on the team, you will be carried somewhat... but still.

The biggest (potential) boost of a div is coördination; something that occasionally actually happens in Randoms. 

 

 

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

If the div is more than the sum of its parts, and you have some skill, your WinRate will be significantly higher than when playing alone for most players. Sure, if you are the weakest on the team, you will be carried somewhat... but still.

The biggest (potential) boost of a div is coördination; something that occasionally actually happens in Randoms. 

 

 

 

 

Yah that's the main ingredient. And the second most important is to have your divmates occupy influential shipclasses so to make sure the the 47% pepegas don't end up in those

[Reynarth]

Another CV CANCER  GLORY !!!!!!

 

T9 minesota died after 3 min game start destroyed by Immelman !!!!!

Then perma spot my [edited]as a DD

Then destroyed Shlieffen at 5 min game

 

 

 Game duration 9min !!!!

 

HOLY GLORY TO WARGAMING  CANCEROUS CV GAMEPLAY !!!

[Yosha_AtaIante]

47 minutes ago, Reynarth said:

Another CV CANCER  GLORY !!!!!!

 

T9 minesota died after 3 min game start destroyed by Immelman !!!!!

Then perma spot my [edited]as a DD

Then destroyed Shlieffen at 5 min game

 

 

 Game duration 9min !!!!

 

HOLY GLORY TO WARGAMING  CANCEROUS CV GAMEPLAY !!!

Do you have more examples of this terrible stuff that is happening in the game?

[Hydra_Dominantus]

Battle vs CV  - adrenaline gameplay/

Spoiler

Spoiler

Nice torpedo detonators

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

17 hours ago, Youshanai said:

yah solo there is more dmg potential especially if your divmates are good its harder to get dmg. But solo is not as enjoyable as playing with friends. Friends seem to be a foreign concept for people who shame others for playing in divs thought. Quite sad.

Well, my "problem" is usually we do kinda LOL-stuff. As in, I am in Ark Royal and then we try to get the unicum in the French DD. 

And of course it is no fun to get him with bombs, so I must torpedo him. Or we try to ram the enemy CV. 

 

16 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

If the div is more than the sum of its parts, and you have some skill, your WinRate will be significantly higher than when playing alone for most players. Sure, if you are the weakest on the team, you will be carried somewhat... but still.

The biggest (potential) boost of a div is coördination; something that occasionally actually happens in Randoms. 

We always coördinate to get the most fun out of the game, after all you play games to have FUN.

It is usually not the most effective.. but when we try to win, we usually do. The fun is in the combination of winning in the most nutty way. 

This can be done with a CV + 2x Ise (or 2x Tone, or 2x Kearsarge), but also.;.. 3x Smolensk, 3x DD "wolfpack", 3x Thunderer... 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Well, my "problem" is usually we do kinda LOL-stuff. As in, I am in Ark Royal and then we try to get the unicum in the French DD. 

And of course it is no fun to get him with bombs, so I must torpedo him. Or we try to ram the enemy CV. 

as long as you don't do that when on my teams it's all good

[BLUB__BLUB]

12 hours ago, Youshanai said:

Do you have more examples of this terrible stuff that is happening in the game?

The thing is, he was not even #1 in the enemy team. It sounds though like he should be.

I think it was not him alone that whacked that Minnesota and Schlieffen. 

Maybe 80% of the stuff was done by other teammates. 

[BLUB__BLUB]

Just now, Youshanai said:

as long as you don't do that when on my teams it's all good

Oh we will still win, just not the normal way.  You will probably go '"WTF did they just do" though.

BTW what would you think when the CV just goes through the middle channel on 2 Brothers? 

[NewHorizons_1]

44 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

BTW what would you think when the CV just goes through the middle channel on 2 Brothers? 

Send the replay to Jingles ... if it worked.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 hour ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Oh we will still win, just not the normal way.  You will probably go '"WTF did they just do" though.

BTW what would you think when the CV just goes through the middle channel on 2 Brothers? 

been there done that... xD

[BLUB__BLUB]

28 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Send the replay to Jingles ... if it worked.

I did but he never features CV replays. 

https://replayswows.com/replay/126298#stats

[Deckeru_Maiku]

On 8/29/2022 at 12:49 PM, BLUB__BLUB said:

I did but he never features CV replays. 

https://replayswows.com/replay/126298#stats

I really wonder why that might be so...

Probably the CV action would be just too much for the average player to comprehend...

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

Since WG believes CV players are completely brain dead. How about they give every CV player a device so that they can keep on breathing. 
 

Automatic secondaries

Automatic DCP

Automatic ASW

Automatic breathing device for the player themselves? Otherwise it gets too difficult. Skill floor too high. Will buy premium again to support my fellow human beings. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

6 minutes ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said:

Since WG believes CV players are completely brain dead. How about they give every CV player a device so that they can keep on breathing. 
 

Automatic secondaries

Automatic DCP

Automatic ASW

Automatic breathing device for the player themselves? Otherwise it gets too difficult. Skill floor too high. Will buy premium again to support my fellow human beings. 

Thank you so much my iron lung is getting rusty already 

[NewHorizons_1]

8 minutes ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said:

Since WG believes CV players are completely brain dead. How about they give every CV player a device so that they can keep on breathing. 
 

Automatic secondaries

Automatic DCP

Automatic ASW

Automatic breathing device for the player themselves? Otherwise it gets too difficult. Skill floor too high. Will buy premium again to support my fellow human beings. 

After Auto ASW, I reckon the next bit of automation for CV players will be :-

 

Auto report : reports the guy that, inevitably, reported the CV player.

Only breaks down when one CV player reports another CV. Cycle only ends when the one of them runs out of reports for the day.

[Panocek]

2 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

After Auto ASW, I reckon the next bit of automation for CV players will be :-

 

Auto report : reports the guy that, inevitably, reported the CV player.

Only breaks down when one CV player reports another CV. Cycle only ends when the one of them runs out of reports for the day.

Nah, next should be autostrike - when any of the squadrons go below full strength, AI controlled squadron of the same type will take off and attack nearest enemy ship

[Nibenay78]

1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Nah, next should be autostrike - when any of the squadrons go below full strength, AI controlled squadron of the same type will take off and attack nearest enemy ship

Just have the entire capacity of planes take off and kill us and let it be overwith.