Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #1051 Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: You CV defending apologist Spoiler 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #1052 Posted May 7, 2020 r.i.p smoll2azer defender of cv's guardian of salt. attacked by lord floloreeru of twitchdom. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #1053 Posted May 7, 2020 In all fairness tho, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually knew El2azer but still did the name and shaming just to give his audience what he wanted. Flolo fans are not exactly the most level headed and thoughtful of the bunch so naturally anything that reinforces their "Delete CVs" mentality means more subs, more donations and more bits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #1054 Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, OVanBruce said: In all fairness tho, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually knew El2azer but still did the name and shaming just to give his audience what he wanted. Flolo fans are not exactly the most level headed and thoughtful of the bunch so naturally anything that reinforces their "Delete CVs" mentality means more subs, more donations and more bits. Ye, i saw some of his base go a bit mental at chat when weegee announced a new dockyard mission. Although its odin so i doubt that will be popular at all. Anyone who spends 35k doubloons on dat is bloody mug of the highest order. Unless they are collectors (sod knows why you would collect virtual stuff, collect models they last longer and look nicer and don't just yeet themselves when someone switches a plug off). @El2aZeR im curious do you know flamu at all? Or was this some random poke from him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #1055 Posted May 7, 2020 I wish I was cool enough to be shittalked by twitch ecelebs. A bit jelly of El2azer now. Guess I must up my CV play, only 65% winrate. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #1056 Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, CptBarney said: @El2aZeR im curious do you know flamu at all? Or was this some random poke from him? Wouldn't know if he knows me. And aw, the clip got deleted. But I liked my title as CV apologist. Guess I'll go back to hating on CVs then. 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #1057 Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, El2aZeR said: Wouldn't know if he knows me. And aw, the clip got deleted. But I liked my title as CV apologist. Guess I'll go back to hating on CVs then. Also lol, not surprised. Petition to weegee for unique forum title change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,696 battles Report post #1058 Posted May 7, 2020 Looks like I missed some good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #1059 Posted May 7, 2020 IIRC somebody corrected him on the stream afterwards so there was relatively little drama involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #1060 Posted May 8, 2020 Vor 6 Stunden, AndyHill sagte: IIRC somebody corrected him on the stream afterwards so there was relatively little drama involved. It's just a little sad how little in touch the CCs are with the community. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #1061 Posted May 8, 2020 Well I wouldn't want to be in touch with this community. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #1062 Posted May 8, 2020 It's kind of defeating the point of being a "Community Contributer" then doesn't it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #1063 Posted May 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Yoshanai said: It's kind of defeating the point of being a "Community Contributer" then doesn't it? True, also a shame there isnt more guides on ships how to play etc. Like updated versions, ichasegaming seems to be the only one who bothers with this too be honest. I like flamu for when hes honest about things, but i like how instead of just taking the time to research el2azer’s posts he just names and shames him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveraptor Players 392 posts 3,934 battles Report post #1064 Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 12:36 PM, CptBarney said: True, also a shame there isnt more guides on ships how to play etc. Like updated versions, ichasegaming seems to be the only one who bothers with this too be honest. I like flamu for when hes honest about things, but i like how instead of just taking the time to research el2azer’s posts he just names and shames him. Seems I missed something... Aren't both of them on the same side and think CVs are broken and do not fit in the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #1065 Posted May 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, steveraptor said: Seems I missed something... Aren't both of them on the same side and think CVs are broken and do not fit in the game? Yes but flamu mistook El2as stance on stream. The fascinating thing to me is that he doesn't know El2a. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #1066 Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/8/2020 at 1:42 AM, AndyHill said: IIRC somebody corrected him on the stream afterwards so there was relatively little drama involved. That was one of us ^^ I was surprised, that he didnt went to stat shame again. Thats what he did with me, when I corrected him once XD (he had to dig deep to paint that picture, quite amusing actually). 3 minutes ago, Yoshanai said: Yes but flamu mistook El2as stance on stream. He is completly out of touch with anything surrounding CVs. And always has been. He was the vocal leader or "CV rework will be awesome" during the testing - and for one reason only. He hated RTS CVs and thought, reworked CVs will nerf the class into the ground. Yes, he actually thought that after testing them himself. How he thinks now about CV rework its pretty obvious. But yea, his audience loves it and throws money at him, everytime he unleashes a blind rage without any facts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] AndyHill Weekend Tester 1,433 posts Report post #1067 Posted May 9, 2020 Well I can understand why he was (I don't really remember if he was or wasn't though), I myself thought that at least it couldn't possibly be worse than what we had back then. Also when people first tried the low tier carriers, they felt very underwhelming, which was somewhat promising. In reality, though, the rework isn't any better than the earlier version, so it's also easy to understand why he hates it now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #1068 Posted May 9, 2020 57 minutes ago, steveraptor said: Seems I missed something... Me too, can anyone enlighten? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #1069 Posted May 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: That was one of us ^^ I was surprised, that he didnt went to stat shame again. Thats what he did with me, when I corrected him once XD (he had to dig deep to paint that picture, quite amusing actually). Never knew he did that, did you make a donation with voice chat? 40 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: He is completly out of touch with anything surrounding CVs. And always has been. He was the vocal leader or "CV rework will be awesome" during the testing - and for one reason only. He hated RTS CVs and thought, reworked CVs will nerf the class into the ground. Yes, he actually thought that after testing them himself. How he thinks now about CV rework its pretty obvious. But yea, his audience loves it and throws money at him, everytime he unleashes a blind rage without any facts. Seems, like it. Hes a very good player yes, but seems bad at being a CC half the time. Oh well i hope weegee adds miss sevastapol as a tier 10 RB cruiser with 380mm's Salt mine would be so full it would create a new sahara desert. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,302 battles Report post #1070 Posted May 9, 2020 I was just in a tier 3 ship with no AA guns in a game with 2 enemy CVs, can you imagine how did I feel ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #1071 Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Never knew he did that, did you make a donation with voice chat? Nah I just called him out in general chat. It triggered him so hard, that he engaged me :D 3 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Hes a very good player yes, but seems bad at being a CC half the time. True for both. Honestly, I think at this point, he is doing it for the money. Just have to roughly calculate subsribers and his tonedeaf tuesday and you know his income per month - and thats a low guess. Cant blame him, it pays more then a "real" job. But his recent influence on the community is ... questionable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A7] Captaindanz Players 402 posts 27,265 battles Report post #1072 Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: I was just in a tier 3 ship with no AA guns in a game with 2 enemy CVs, can you imagine how did I feel ? everyone had that experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #1073 Posted May 9, 2020 Just had a Lexington losing his crap over a Halland killing all his planes in seconds, screaming it was unbalanced. Explaining to him that he just learned not to mindlessly attack a Halland in his Lex, he started crying about how he already has to make 'hard tactical choices' and this was just too much. Explaining to him AGAIN that he just learned to be careful around this ONE DD, he got really upset. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #1074 Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/7/2020 at 8:27 AM, Miragetank90 said: Hm, well... So I'd say in that sense(increase in players), it succeeded. This heading description is meaningless. If this is about RTS & reworked CVs only - there should only be 2 graph lines (not 4). On 5/7/2020 at 9:17 AM, Miragetank90 said: @CptBarney @Yoshanai @AgarwaenME Sorry, forgot this part... Because I'm dumb. Sorry. Hopefully it makes more sense now. K, all four classes. The dates this graph covers & the intervals shown are not apparent. On 5/7/2020 at 9:38 AM, El2aZeR said: Given that this is % of total amount of battles it clearly doesn't compensate for population differences. E.g. if the total amount of players went down but the amount of CV players stayed the same, that'd show an increase in the share of CV battles played. I'm sure wondering why they're not simply displaying the actual player numbers. Exactly. 'What' does the above graph represent? My guess is just the relative differences in what ship classes are being played over time. Statistical analyses are good & all but only if the exact parameters of what is being shown are crystal clear (which here they are not). Then there is the data itself. There is the old statistical math saying, "Garbage In = Garbage Out" 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XTREM] Miragetank90 Players 2,626 posts 18,696 battles Report post #1075 Posted May 9, 2020 @Aethervoxx As I mentioned on the previous page, the dates start from just before rework and end on the day of posting. The last date written on the graph at the bottom right is the 1st of May. As for intervals, it's on a monthly basis, but I realise it's hard to see from that screenshot. What you're seeing is the result from all of last year from the 1st of January 2019 up till now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites