General CV related discussions.

[Westie77]

I don’t see the issue with CVs I have really enjoyed playing them and adds some variety to the game. Much the same as Submarines they are all part of naval warfare and should be included. You can’t pick and choose just the bits you like of naval warfare. All classes have good and bad points. So I think CVs should stay. I really don’t see the issue. 

[Andrewbassg]

On 8/15/2021 at 9:14 PM, Yosha_nai said:

where is the anger though outside of forum and reddit community? 

 

Erm.....Facebook, Twitter, YT, Twitch? You mean those?

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, Westie77 said:

So I think CVs should stay.

Agreed, CVs should stay, just not the reworked ones.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

5 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Erm.....Facebook, Twitter, YT, Twitch? You mean those?

no one takes Twitter seriously and yt comments aren't exactly the most productive place to discuss. Facebook is for pepegas and twitch chat is speshul

[CptBarney]

13 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

no one takes Twitter seriously and yt comments aren't exactly the most productive place to discuss. Facebook is for pepegas and twitch chat is speshul

More and more articles are coming out, if it continues some big youtube channels will notice.

[Andrewbassg]

34 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

no one takes Twitter seriously and yt comments aren't exactly the most productive place to discuss. Facebook is for pepegas and twitch chat is speshul

 I.... failed to see a connection, the connection and..... your point. McDonalds is crap...but its McDonalds. So...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Andrewbassg said:

 I.... failed to see a connection, the connection and..... your point. McDonalds is crap...but its McDonalds. So...

the point is that it doesn't help anyone that the same people discuss the same thing on different platforms. 

The community looks like a ridiculous raging mob on whatever platform they use to outsiders. 

[Andrewbassg]

35 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

the point is that it doesn't help anyone that the same people discuss the same thing on different platforms. 

Erm.....what ....help? They made it clear, what they think, and how much they "value" the community and the players.

    But they are idiots. They are literally brewing the perfect storm. The story increasingly gets picked up. Just wait for the second when people will start realizing that 30 or so CC's walked out, yet they still have one left, who is actually making a sport out of using antisemite, racial and homophobic slurs  And then just wait for all the searchlights pointing at them illuminating all the ....washing machines. Pegi will look like a ...communal playground.

They are complete morons. 

35 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

The community looks like a ridiculous raging mob on whatever platform they use to outsiders. 

It doesn't matter how it looks. 30 Cc's have walked out saying that they don't want to do anything with the company.

 

They could have patched up things......but no...... There are three kind of idiots, those who know what they are, the average idiots who doesn't know and those who actually think that they are smart. Guess in what category our beloved ex PB members fall?

[Nibenay78]

10 hours ago, Westie77 said:

I don’t see the issue with CVs I have really enjoyed playing them and adds some variety to the game. Much the same as Submarines they are all part of naval warfare and should be included. You can’t pick and choose just the bits you like of naval warfare. All classes have good and bad points. So I think CVs should stay. I really don’t see the issue. 

Ballistic missile subs are part of naval warfare and should be included. They have their good and bad points. Eliminating the entire enemy team with 1 click on the map clearly adds variety and is enjoyable to play.

 

I dont see the issue with adding them.

[Nibenay78]

1 hour ago, Yosha_nai said:

no one takes Twitter seriously ...

Except the former president that could massively impact the world with a single rage tweet :p

[Pikkozoikum]

9 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Ballistic missile subs are part of naval warfare and should be included. They have their good and bad points.

With V2 or what? I think the first ballistic Submarines are pretty late. There are some post war ships in this game, though I would say, that is the very end of the range, and not that a whole T10 of that class should contain ~1960s vessels

 

11 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Eliminating the entire enemy team with 1 click on the map clearly adds variety and is enjoyable to play.

That makes no sense at all.

It's like I would say. "okay, lets implement now real battle ships. They one shot everyting with 1 shell."

Even if there would be something like that added, then they would make them fit into the game. That should be common sense

 

13 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

I dont see the issue with adding them.

Technically there is no issue, only in the way how you would add them.

[Nibenay78]

25 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

That makes no sense at all.

Just to make it painfully clear, the entire post is sarcasm in regards to people wanting stuff added just because it exists, with any disregard if it will enchance the gameplay and fun.

[Westie77]

44 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Ballistic missile subs are part of naval warfare and should be included. They have their good and bad points. Eliminating the entire enemy team with 1 click on the map clearly adds variety and is enjoyable to play.

 

I dont see the issue with adding them.

I think Ballistic Missle Subs are a little to modern for this game lol 😉

[Pikkozoikum]

11 hours ago, Westie77 said:

I don’t see the issue with CVs I have really enjoyed playing them and adds some variety to the game. Much the same as Submarines they are all part of naval warfare and should be included. You can’t pick and choose just the bits you like of naval warfare. All classes have good and bad points. So I think CVs should stay. I really don’t see the issue. 

Don't mind the down votes, the forum is mostly for rant :3

[Pikkozoikum]

4 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Just to make it painfully clear, the entire post is sarcasm in regards to people wanting stuff added just because it exists, with any disregard if it will enchance the gameplay and fun.

The issue is not the sarcasm, the issue is the exaggeration.

 

It's like I would say, "Montana never existed in 2nd WW (and not even ever), lets add the Zumwalt-class!"

[Nibenay78]

20 minutes ago, Westie77 said:

I think Ballistic Missle Subs are a little to modern for this game lol 😉

I would hope they would not ever be included :) 

[Nibenay78]

17 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

The issue is not the sarcasm, the issue is the exaggeration.

The exaggeration highlights the point that not all additions may be good.  

Would you like me to make some balance changes to these ships? It can be done numerically, but will still be a boring game for most.

 

17 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

 

It's like I would say, "Montana never existed in 2nd WW (and not even ever), lets add the Zumwalt-class!"

Its not the same comparison. I'm arguing for a "new" mechanic someone may want included. We can always add Zumwalt, just skip the missles, and it's basically another pewpew ship.

 

 

[Samyuel]

13 hours ago, Westie77 said:

I don’t see the issue with CVs I have really enjoyed playing them and adds some variety to the game. Much the same as Submarines they are all part of naval warfare and should be included. You can’t pick and choose just the bits you like of naval warfare. All classes have good and bad points. So I think CVs should stay. I really don’t see the issue. 

When they play too much Enterprise, Midway or Hakuryu your vision get distorted a little.
Hope you enjoy the game and play as you want.

[El2aZeR]

14 hours ago, Westie77 said:

You can’t pick and choose just the bits you like of naval warfare.

 

Given that this game is not bound by realism, yes you can.

It is why e.g. CVs are banned in competitive play.

 

49 minutes ago, Samyuel said:

When they play too much Enterprise, Midway or Hakuryu your vision get distorted a little.

 

Because clearly there are no CVs that are overperforming outside of those 3.

[CptBarney]

26 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Given that this game is not bound by realism, yes you can.

It is why e.g. CVs are banned in competitive play.

 

 

Because clearly there are no CVs that are overperforming outside of those 3.

anything that isnt british.

 

Maybe fronch as well.

[Samyuel]

5 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Because clearly there are no CVs that are overperforming outside of those 3.

Yeah sorry should I sjould have wrote  "When they play too much US (except saipan) or japanese your vision get distorted a little. 

 

Would be nice if they could streamline all branches instead of have meh ones and overperforming ones.

 

And if they could just buff Graf Zeppelin ffs!!!! Even bearn AP bombers hit will hit harder than Graf... and it's a T6 and they will probably actually hit things...

 

[Bear__Necessities]

As predicted CV's are sucking the soul out of T6 CW's. GJ WG.

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, Samyuel said:

Would be nice if they could streamline all branches instead of have meh ones and overperforming ones.

 

Ironically the reason why there is such a disparity between the tech trees is because old CV lines are allowed to retain the power they had in RTS due to both average stats being skewed by terrible players as well as population concerns.

But new tech trees are balanced around the new balancing standard (aka RN levels of power), which is where WG would actually like CVs to be. Naturally that means nobody plays them as nobody is interested in playing a balanced rework iteration.

 

It should also be noted that the official stance about the terrible CV lines boils down to if you cannot make them work, you are just a terrible CV player and there is nothing wrong with the performance of those ships.

WG's words, not mine.

 

[Aethervoxx]

6 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

 



How creative, El2aZeR,  recycling an image/meme to represent WG itself. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

8 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

As predicted CV's are sucking the soul out of T6 CW's. GJ WG.

What do you mean sucking the soul out? We played 19 games yesterday with double ryujo and won 16. It's very nice, so full of spice!