[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9626 Posted August 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: Well clearly if all my ships had identical stats, CV might not be an issue power-wise at at least (they would still be boring and destructive for gameplay though!) And its more fun to do a bit of interpretation.. I meant it as in by playing CV well you show in a clearer picture how broken they are so they can be fixed. If more people played CV well to their potential then the class would come out as outrageously op and would recieve nerfs faster. Not saying CVs aren't op but due to not having enough high end performers the numbers for WG aren't high enough to justify trashing the class. But by playing t4 the way you do with Hosho you still contribute in a good way to show how broken the class is. You are doing a good thing despite the majority of people thinking you are an [edited] for doing that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9627 Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said: I meant it as in by playing CV well you show in a clearer picture how broken they are so they can be fixed. If more people played CV well to their potential then the class would come out as outrageously op and would recieve nerfs faster. Not saying CVs aren't op but due to not having enough high end performers the numbers for WG aren't high enough to justify trashing the class. But by playing t4 the way you do with Hosho you still contribute in a good way to show how broken the class is. You are doing a good thing despite the majority of people thinking you are an [edited] for doing that Tbh you'd need to have average potats to "overperform" in them and by large margin for WG to take action, and so far, after two, almost three years, this doesn't seem to be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9628 Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Panocek said: Tbh you'd need to have average potats to "overperform" in them and by large margin for WG to take action, and so far, after two, almost three years, this doesn't seem to be the case. And that's also why CVs are going to continue existing as they are with soon having a French CV line after the Russian one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9629 Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said: And that's also why CVs are going to continue existing as they are with soon having a French CV line after the Russian one. At the same time, with CV population going down, WG already admitted they will be willing to buff or otherwise change class to bring popularity back up. That said, I don't think much will happen to CVs besides 5-10% tweak here and there, not when subs are Wargaming newest toys now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #9630 Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said: I meant it as in by playing CV well you show in a clearer picture how broken they are so they can be fixed. If more people played CV well to their potential then the class would come out as outrageously op and would recieve nerfs faster. I know what you meant, i was just making fun. Even while trying to learn them I found the gameplay really boring, OP or UP. Since WG ignores the insane numbers on their spreadsheets, I stopped playing the abnormal-cell-growth-ships 6 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said: Not saying CVs aren't op but due to not having enough high end performers the numbers for WG aren't high enough to justify trashing the class. But by playing t4 the way you do with Hosho you still contribute in a good way to show how broken the class is. You are doing a good thing despite the majority of people thinking you are an [edited] for doing that To little effect. Although I'd say that if I was a new player starting hosho and you have this seemingly pathetic single drop torp.. I'd find some other class to play. Then again I preferred large alfa strikes directed mostly against larger ships as in RTS, and at that time I mostly played BB.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #9631 Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Yosha_nai said: And that's also why CVs are going to continue existing as they are with soon having a French CV line after the Russian one. Today i saw in co-ops the Serov CV. The russian CV's were released in test? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #9632 Posted August 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Gudgeon said: Nibenay is only part of the problem in that new players feel the need to push up the tech tree and end up playing high tiers doing 20K damage a battle in a Yam, to get away from THREE CV's a side at tier 4. It is all part of the game.....keep pushing the players up the tiers in the hope that a high tier ship makes a better player. Or get a premuim. CV's are used to drive players up the tech tree and hopefully make $. That was the intention of the CV rework all along. Anyone playing tier 4 CV's hardcore has unwittingly been part of this. CV's would have been fixed two years ago if that was the intention. Work on submarines has been going on, say, two years...... Well, it is lucky then that we have @El2aZeR and @CptBarney and @Yosha_nai and @Panocek to feast on them in the higher tiers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9633 Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Well, it is lucky then that we have @El2aZeR and @CptBarney and @Yosha_nai and @Panocek to feast on them in the higher tiers... Except last time I've played CVs seriously was in like 2019 so wrong ping here 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #9634 Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Well, it is lucky then that we have @El2aZeR and @CptBarney and @Yosha_nai and @Panocek to feast on them in the higher tiers... Even my shaite CV gameplay at higher tier can make the game unenjoyable for people. Its pretty easy in fact... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #9635 Posted August 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: Even my shaite CV gameplay at higher tier can make the game unenjoyable for people. Its pretty easy in fact... A Yamato alone at high tier? In my FDR the only challenge is to kill it with only one squad! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #9636 Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, gopher31 said: A Yamato alone at high tier? In my FDR the only challenge is to kill it with only one squad! Well, if they are rocketsquad it might even be a real challenge... maybe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #9637 Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, gopher31 said: A Yamato alone at high tier? In my FDR the only challenge is to kill it with only one squad! You dont need to take them out even to make the game miserable and frustrating. Dying and losing is part of a game. Feeling miserable isnt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cronos Beta Tester 201 posts 8,099 battles Report post #9638 Posted August 14, 2021 I liked the loadout options (strike or air superiority) from the old CVs - way back in the days. I mainly focused on air superiority USN CVs. Too bad the different approaches were scrapped. Would love to see a support CV line to boost/heal friendlies and debuff enemies. WG will never be able to fix the game, so be happy with what you got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] mcboernester Privateer 6,009 posts 14,314 battles Report post #9639 Posted August 14, 2021 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9640 Posted August 15, 2021 10 hours ago, mcboernester said: Thats a drop for higher tier cvs, interesting how the low tier cvs are picking up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TCG] El_Pepega Players 22 posts 11,434 battles Report post #9641 Posted August 15, 2021 13.08.2021 saat 19:35'de, Yosha_nai dedi: I'm sorry I didn't mention you. pls forgive me So there are only 3 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBK] manecub Players 13 posts 9,387 battles Report post #9642 Posted August 15, 2021 can we please just get the old CVs back 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9643 Posted August 15, 2021 @Yosha_nai Oi, you will have to wait till thursday before weegee talks about the really fat and smelly elephant in the room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9644 Posted August 15, 2021 It should also be noted that in terms of active player numbers every class is picking up again - except CVs, which remain even less popular than RTS once was. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9645 Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: It should also be noted that in terms of active player numbers every class is picking up again - except CVs, which remain even less popular than RTS once was. I dont think peegee miscommunicated when they said it was a success. Now into the cornah you goooo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9646 Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: @Yosha_nai Oi, you will have to wait till thursday before weegee talks about the really fat and smelly elephant in the room. They don't need to say anything before that. Community thinks they are getting the high ground but in reality WG is probably more than happy that the majority of CCs are gone to replace them with more easier to control new ones 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9647 Posted August 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said: They don't need to say anything before that. Community thinks they are getting the high ground but in reality WG is probably more than happy that the majority of CCs are gone to replace them with more easier to control new ones Dunno, seems more plain anger at this point. Lots of spicy things are happening and have happened. Makes me wonder if i should make my own version, i mean i can model ships no problem, just need to nail down uv-mapping and proper textile density. Still waiting for UA:D to actually give us CAP-1, quite sadge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #9648 Posted August 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, CptBarney said: Dunno, seems more plain anger at this point where is the anger though outside of forum and reddit community? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #9649 Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, Yosha_nai said: where is the anger though outside of forum and reddit community? Alot was on twitch and some is and some on twitter as well. Some on facebook and discord Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #9650 Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Yosha_nai said: where is the anger though outside of forum and reddit community? Probably takes a while to organize a flashmob to protest on the streets with torches and pitchforks... especially as protesting in front of the WG central might be mistaken as political and then the feces might hit the fan really hard... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites