General CV related discussions.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

5 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Same as WoT, yet I wonder how much fun a newbie has when he skipped directly into tier 8 in his brand new amazing ship and meets some random CV player.. lets say someone called Yosha_nai, to be completely annihilated.

Of course if he spent €10+ on the game before leaving it, I suppose it's a win for WG.

I don't care as long as I am having fun blasting these people

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

33 minuti fa, Bear__Necessities ha scritto:

Sorry. But I'll never stop hunting down the player base in my little bote. LIVE THEE IN TERROR OF MY POP GUNS AND METAL SWIMMY TUBES!!!!

And you shall sink 

Cheers pesky destroyer player 

[Nibenay78]

32 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

I don't care as long as I am having fun blasting these people

True, although personally I prefer a bit of a challenge in games. Each to their own.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said:

True, although personally I prefer a bit of a challenge in games. Each to their own.

If you think it's not challenging to keep 3k PR+ in shoukaku these days be my guest to prove it. 

[Pikkozoikum]

3 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

If you think it's not challenging to keep 3k PR+ in shoukaku these days be my guest to prove it. 

I would actually expect, that it's easier on Shokaku than on some other CVs

[Panocek]

42 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Same as WoT, yet I wonder how much fun a newbie has when he skipped directly into tier 8 in his brand new amazing ship and meets some random CV player.. lets say someone called Yosha_nai, to be completely annihilated.

Of course if he spent €10+ on the game before leaving it, I suppose it's a win for WG.

Sunken cost fallacy is also a thing, "I'm not going to just dump the game after investing 50-100€ on pixel boat". At the same time, randomness of Randoms kinda ensures ups and downs when playing - you can be dunked by CV unicum, but also your cluelessly launched torps suddenly scored multiple hits. Alternatively RNGesus guided multiple shells toward enemy citadel despite players best efforts to miss the target

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I would actually expect, that it's easier on Shokaku than on some other CVs

easier =/ not challenging though

[Nibenay78]

34 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

If you think it's not challenging to keep 3k PR+ in shoukaku these days be my guest to prove it. 

I'm sure it is, but CV play is reasonably boring so I probably won't play enough to get there. 

Still at that point I'm not sure that is a challenge I'd care for.

 

Do I manage to sink 5 or 6 ships alone this game (on a regular basis), I'll hazard a guess I'd start to find it boring.

 

[CptBarney]

31 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

easier =/ not challenging though

Guess its time to face 12 bear neccesities or sunleaders.

 

Hopefully the training arc would of been worth it.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

3 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Guess its time to face 12 bear neccesities or sunleaders.

 

Hopefully the training arc would of been worth it.

No thanks lol I'm not into getting kekked on q_q

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, Yosha_nai said:

No thanks lol I'm not into getting kekked on q_q

I see.

 

The shinobi school of flying screeching planus has been informed of this decision. 

 

*double poof*

*bottle of chocolate sauce spills on the floor*

[Deckeru_Maiku]

5 hours ago, AxisMarine said:

I would be happy if DDs ceased to exist, may be one day it will be possible, I see an increasing amount of radar ships muahahahahahaha GOOD GOOD... DEW IT WG DEW IT ! KILL THEM

I'm utterly glad to the the campfest that would assure when their would be 12 vs 12 BB battles coming. So everyone has their dreams, ey?

[arquata2019_]

Alle 27/7/2021 alle 00:32, Yosha_nai ha scritto:

Good old silver line shoukaku is all you need to assert dominance and the best thing is that everyone underestimates you. 

 

Because obviously rockets are dead after the rework and DDs can't be hit anymore. Also torps are so easy to dodge for DDs how are they ever going to die right? 

I'm curious, may i see the personal score screen?

BTW, 3k base on a toptier match is quite hilarious

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

I'm curious, may i see the personal score screen?

BTW, 3k base on a toptier match is quite hilarious

Shokaku is just that strong. Stick it in the hands of well, players of that CV calibre and these results are not as rare as you think. 

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, Bear__Necessities ha scritto:

Shokaku is just that strong. Stick it in the hands of well, players of that CV calibre and these results are not as rare as you think. 

Oh, well, it's still a CV. But i thought Lexington, as a tech-tree CV would have replaced her, i'll try tomorrow playing Shokaku to see what can i do ^_^!

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

21 hours ago, Yosha_nai said:

Are we going to turn a blind eye to the omega fast progression WG is promoting? That's why there are bots, because players leave those tiers after very few battles 

LoL. Blind eye. Pre 0.8.0 we did not need bots in lower tiers lol. Can I say lol again? LoL. Lol? Lol! People avoid badly designed and maintained tiers. Pre 0.8.0 I used to play all tiers. The first time I reset a line I was baffled how bad the gameplay in lower tiers had become. The combination with WG selling this game as a looter instead of a shooter deepened the gap between fun and addiction.

[Pikkozoikum]

ugh, necro post (edit)

[Pikkozoikum]

12 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Shokaku is just that strong. Stick it in the hands of well, players of that CV calibre and these results are not as rare as you think. 

It has actually less to do with the player and more with the match and coniditions.

The CV is top tier, which is good for "carrying", but also if you look at the own team exp, which is mostly lower than the enemies team exp (if win-bonus removed). If the own team does less, then there is more potential, that someone can do "more".

A very important point for Base exp (aside own decision making and rng) is, if the potential in this match is given. In a stomp, there is never that potential

 

Not saying, that he did bad, he obviously did good, but it's very often depending on the others, if they show broadside to a bb or not, stuff like that ^^

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 hours ago, Europizza said:

LoL. Blind eye. Pre 0.8.0 we did not need bots in lower tiers lol. Can I say lol again? LoL. Lol? Lol! People avoid badly designed and maintained tiers. Pre 0.8.0 I used to play all tiers. The first time I reset a line I was baffled how bad the gameplay in lower tiers had become. The combination with WG selling this game as a looter instead of a shooter deepened the gap between fun and addiction.

Pre 8.0 the economy was also more strict. But yeah, you tend to forget what conflicts with your narrative. 

 

WG shifted economy to focus high tiers heavily with how they release new ship lines always giving the ability to instantly skip low tiers completely for those lines during pre release events and loot boxes, big economy signals. 

 

There is no reason to play low tiers much anymore even for new players they instantly get showered with all kind of offers to premium ships and free premium time to aid the early grind and so on. I know that to well because I have a lot of alt accounts. WG doesn't want you to play low tiers. The money maker premiums these days are mostly t8 and higher. Why do you think they don't release low tier premiums anymore? The game isn't dying in low tiers, they was populated 2 years ago because of different monetization schemes and harsher xp economy 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

27 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

Pre 8.0 the economy was also more strict. But yeah, you tend to forget what conflicts with your narrative. 

 

WG shifted economy to focus high tiers heavily with how they release new ship lines always giving the ability to instantly skip low tiers completely for those lines during pre release events and loot boxes, big economy signals. 

 

There is no reason to play low tiers much anymore even for new players they instantly get showered with all kind of offers to premium ships and free premium time to aid the early grind and so on. I know that to well because I have a lot of alt accounts. WG doesn't want you to play low tiers. The money maker premiums these days are mostly t8 and higher. Why do you think they don't release low tier premiums anymore? The game isn't dying in low tiers, they was populated 2 years ago because of different monetization schemes and harsher xp economy 

We all can see WG doesn't care if anyone plays low tiers, that's painfully clear even without your 'mansplaination'. Started with low tiers being ruined by 0.8.0. Followed by everything obvious you said.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

51 minutes ago, Europizza said:

mansplaination

nice bait 

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

It has actually less to do with the player and more with the match and coniditions.

The CV is top tier, which is good for "carrying", but also if you look at the own team exp, which is mostly lower than the enemies team exp (if win-bonus removed). If the own team does less, then there is more potential, that someone can do "more".

A very important point for Base exp (aside own decision making and rng) is, if the potential in this match is given. In a stomp, there is never that potential

 

Not saying, that he did bad, he obviously did good, but it's very often depending on the others, if they show broadside to a bb or not, stuff like that ^^

The player is the only consistent factor. This player consistently excels using this CV. So the CV is clearly a powerful tool. The general concesus between other top CV players is also that Shokaku is the best performing silver CV and one of the top 3 strongest at T8 overall. 

[BLUB__BLUB]

9 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

The player is the only consistent factor

Well TBH the constant factor is also if you have shite teams all the time. 

I don't know how they do it but WeeGee manages to make the one team even more shite than the other. 

Starting to suspect that they have troll armies that get trained to be as stupido as possible, and then they let them run wild on the randoms server. 

[mcboernester]

 

I'm not 100% sure how accurate marple is as a source ( no hidden accs for example, also ranked is listed separately). 

[Alfa_Tau]

14 hours ago, mcboernester said:

 

I'm not 100% sure how accurate marple is as a source ( no hidden accs for example, also ranked is listed separately). 

I can report only my personal direct experience; in the last week I played mostly high tiers (9 & 10) and I have met very few CV. Oddly enough I think 90% were tier 8 .