Samyuel Players 122 posts Report post #9151 Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Tugnut said: Quick question... is it a bug that if rocket planes even sniff land their aim is totaly out... or is it by design to make them even worse than they all ready are? Its a "feature"... That allow german rockets to shoot at the other side of the map if the island is tall enough. Isn't that a fantastic feature ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #9152 Posted July 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Tugnut said: Quick question... is it a bug that if rocket planes even sniff land their aim is totaly out... or is it by design to make them even worse than they all ready are? It's a weird mechanic :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #9153 Posted July 10, 2021 I still get baffled that its possible to grind to T10 Shimakaze and understand the game so little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #9154 Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Still, I think mostly players would pick something up along the way ..... just by accident. They do... mostly the wrong things, they learn from the other potatoes they meet... Check teams with one of those tools available, and you see that in most teams the number of skilled players from new players could really learn something postitive is greatly (or if you're a fan of that orange-haired former US president: bigly) reduced or trending towards 0 (= zero...) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9155 Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: I still get baffled that its possible to grind to T10 Shimakaze and understand the game so little. To be fair Ahskance doesn't understand CV play either so it evens out. 10 hours ago, Tugnut said: Quick question... is it a bug that if rocket planes even sniff land their aim is totaly out... or is it by design to make them even worse than they all ready are? Yes, that is intentional given that WG changed it to be that way. 3 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #9156 Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, El2aZeR said: To be fair Ahskance doesn't understand CV play either so it evens out. Yes, that is intentional given that WG changed it to be that way. I do hate it when Ahskance shows us how carriers are no threat to your destroyer if you follow his prescription. Then you watch him play destroyer and get hit just like the rest of us. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #9157 Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, El2aZeR said: To be fair Ahskance doesn't understand CV play either so it evens out. Yes, that is intentional given that WG changed it to be that way. That might be (myself I know little of CV gameplay) but I thought he at least tried to explain (with great patience) to the raging noob in the Shima. He just hates CVs for all the wrong reasons. Like for instance their ability to have plane in actual air early on in the game and the fact that they actually go on scouting runs at start.... like ... really?!?! And you grinded to the Shima? Not understanding how AA blooms your detect ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9158 Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, OldschoolGaming_YouTube said: Like for instance their ability to have plane in actual air early on in the game To be fair that is a pretty legitimate reason to hate CVs given that no other class can get anything done this early nor could the previous incarnation of CVs do this. In fact CVs are the only class that can actually enforce afk penalty (aka kill an active enemy ship so early so fast that they get penalized as afk), did you know that? It's pretty hilarious when it happens. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] mcboernester Privateer 6,009 posts 14,314 battles Report post #9159 Posted July 11, 2021 Got another noticeable drop in hightier, lowtier kinda stabilized. Just as a sidenote: I think the 2nd beta for rework started mid october which kinda fits with my old numbers since you have a constant 0,3% drop there for the next couple weeks till january where the test server got closed again. So the magical number to reach in hightier is roughly 1,7%. We are almost there... Also lowtier in general had a big drop in player numbers. I don't think there was some event or anything 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DSW] Arty_McFly Moderator, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 812 posts Report post #9160 Posted July 11, 2021 8 Posts removed. Reason: Off-topic and/or trolling. Arty_McFly 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #9161 Posted July 11, 2021 6 games played this morning. 5 had CV's. Spawned in the middle all 6 times. CV's went zoom. Heavy cruiser AA did nothing. No fun was had. Yeah...... nah. Guess which game was the only fun game had. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #9162 Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said: 6 games played this morning. 5 had CV's. Spawned in the middle all 6 times. CV's went zoom. Heavy cruiser AA did nothing. No fun was had. Yeah...... nah. Guess which game was the only fun game had. replays? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #9163 Posted July 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said: replays? So replays will tell YOU if HE had fun??? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #9164 Posted July 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: So replays will tell YOU if HE had fun??? Replays could tell that yes, but further more, why he has no fun. When you do 10 kills in a game and show me that replay without any words, I could probably tell you, that you had fun. (or Assuming) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JOLLY] UnterSeeBot Players 967 posts Report post #9165 Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, mcboernester said: Got another noticeable drop in hightier, lowtier kinda stabilized. Just as a sidenote: I think the 2nd beta for rework started mid october which kinda fits with my old numbers since you have a constant 0,3% drop there for the next couple weeks till january where the test server got closed again. So the magical number to reach in hightier is roughly 1,7%. We are almost there... Also lowtier in general had a big drop in player numbers. I don't think there was some event or anything I don't understand this entirely, without the dates/periods. (Although I do understand from this table that total low tier player numbers have fallen off a cliff, CVs played as a percentage of total has undergone a healthy decline at all tiers, quality drop at high tiers. 1.9%! Will Russian CVs reverse the trend? Answers on a postcard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #9166 Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Pikkozoikum said: Replays could tell that yes, but further more, why he has no fun. When you do 10 kills in a game and show me that replay without any words, I could probably tell you, that you had fun. (or Assuming) No need for replays, just look his games from today, it's easy to see by number of planes shot that he was bullied by CVs and had no fun games by quite disappointing results for a player of his skill. He says 1 was fun so probably rest was even worse then this average. i hope that It's not stat shaming, he's just too good for it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #9167 Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: No need for replays, just look his games from today, it's easy to see by number of planes shot that he was bullied by CVs and had no fun games by quite disappointing results for a player of his skill. He says 1 was fun so probably rest was even worse then this average. When I ask for replays, then I ask for replays ;) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #9168 Posted July 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said: replays? Why? So you can debate my level of fun had? Nah. You can ask one of the CV players though. Hey, @arquata2019 how much fun did I have as a heavy cruiser against your CV this morning??? In this game I clearly had SO much counterplay against this CV. He does that damage for the sum of a few planes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #9169 Posted July 11, 2021 10 minuti fa, Bear__Necessities ha scritto: Why? So you can debate my level of fun had? Nah. You can ask one of the CV players though. Hey, @arquata2019 how much fun did I have as a heavy cruiser against your CV this morning??? In this game I clearly had SO much counterplay against this CV. He does that damage for the sum of a few planes. I'm glad to answer :D! Amount of fun you had, right? Uhm... Let's analyze it: You were playing a surface ship, Moskva, and at the start of the match you were escorting Marceau. I came, striking you for 10k in a non-dodgable attack and setting a fire on you, DCPing, hoping to not have any enemy BBs to shoot HE at you; Marceau same, basically you two lost many HP without doing anything wrong. Let's move to the end of the game. You were helping your team (which evaporated) and took position near an island. You were fighting many ships, but i came striking you for 18k+ and setting a fire with DBs while your DFAA was on. And then i killed you with torpedoes you couldn't dodge. So, fun you had? not at all, fighting a CV in a surface ship. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CN_] mcboernester Privateer 6,009 posts 14,314 battles Report post #9170 Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, LoveZeppelin said: I don't understand this entirely, without the dates/periods. (Although I do understand from this table that total low tier player numbers have fallen off a cliff, CVs played as a percentage of total has undergone a healthy decline at all tiers, quality drop at high tiers. 1.9%! Will Russian CVs reverse the trend? Answers on a postcard. Games played by Class over the last 3 weeks (including this) , split into hightier (7-10) and lowtier (the rest) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #9171 Posted July 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: I'm glad to answer :D! Amount of fun you had, right? Uhm... Let's analyze it: You were playing a surface ship, Moskva, and at the start of the match you were escorting Marceau. I came, striking you for 10k in a non-dodgable attack and setting a fire on you, DCPing, hoping to not have any enemy BBs to shoot HE at you; Marceau same, basically you two lost many HP without doing anything wrong. Let's move to the end of the game. You were helping your team (which evaporated) and took position near an island. You were fighting many ships, but i came striking you for 18k+ and setting a fire with DBs while your DFAA was on. And then i killed you with torpedoes you couldn't dodge. So, fun you had? not at all, fighting a CV in a surface ship. So. Much. Fun. 😆 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #9172 Posted July 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, mcboernester said: Games played by Class over the last 3 weeks (including this) , split into hightier (7-10) and lowtier (the rest) Nvm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P7S] Vbeest Players 452 posts Report post #9173 Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said: Why? So you can debate my level of fun had? Nah. You can ask one of the CV players though. Hey, @arquata2019 how much fun did I have as a heavy cruiser against your CV this morning??? In this game I clearly had SO much counterplay against this CV. He does that damage for the sum of a few planes. Thank you very much, I feel flattered. Also, thank you for reporting me in this match - this is the best proof I did a good job. Someone else from your team also highly regarded my work, since I got that silly message with karma -2 in the port. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #9174 Posted July 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Vbeest said: this is the best proof I did a good job I highly doubt you ever do a good job. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #9175 Posted July 11, 2021 8 minuti fa, 159Hunter ha scritto: I highly doubt you ever do a good job. I did for both carrying and ruining fun of others! ;) (no ok for serious now, i only love doing 1 vs 2+ with CVs, and for the most part i hate them because.... so much counterplay..) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites