General CV related discussions.

[Chips_uk]

On 5/22/2021 at 12:43 PM, Pukovnik7 said:

I dusted off my Vanguard to see what it is like... A CV got a strike on me with these parachute strikes. I went from full to half HP in one strike.

 

Verdict: I will never play Vanguard again. In fact, I will never play anything other than Tier VII German battleships again. Or Halland, once I get it. This is ridiculous. And WarGaming developers are, officially, mentally retarded. That, or a bunch of psychotic sadists.

T7 German BB? Why?

Just faced 2xTone, 1xISE, and 1xLexington carrier on enemy team.

 

Our team, just a carrier. 

 

You angle against their bb's (killing both, arf arf) and all of a sudden there's about 30 torp bombers dropping you.

 

If you don't want to play World of Warplanes, probably best to stop playing entirely - as it can only get worse. Otherwise, it's all about the moneyyyyyyyyy... (keep making ships, keep making people buy more slots etc). 

[Pukovnik7]

2 minutes ago, Chips_uk said:

T7 German BB? Why?

 

Brawling, brawling maps and relative lack of carriers. But I did say "probably", and in any case I unlocked Bismarck just recently. Still...

2 minutes ago, Chips_uk said:

If you don't want to play World of Warplanes, probably best to stop playing entirely. 

This sounds very tempting.

[Chips_uk]

1 minute ago, Pukovnik7 said:

Brawling, brawling maps

glwt

[BLUB__BLUB]

31 minutes ago, The_Norwood said:

A CV merely has to keep a DD spotted, it doesn't even have to attack the DD to "stop them", spot and the rest of the team will finish the DD very quickly. But then, why would a CV player even consider that there are 11 other players in their team?

When he has to keep a DD spotted, he is actually losing time, in which he could do damage. 

He also cannot drop fighters as they'll just get dakka and die, you have to drop them VERY close o to a DD to keep him spotted. 

Also, teammates shooting at a DD is an illusion, most of the time. They rather yell CV to take care of it.

 

But then, why would somebody even consider that they could do a job themselves? 

Maybe because they are used to somebody else cleaning up their mess behind them? 

If you want the DD dead, just find and shoot it yourself. Quite often the CV dies due to potat teammates, not defending caps,

and what happens then is that DD goes through, and attacks the CV, and "teammates" go: well tough luck CV. 

 

You better get used to it... plenty REeeeRRReeeee has nerfed CVs enough, now clean up the DDs yourself. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tigerdavid]

Nerfed the CV enough already? When? I don't get it with any ships. 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

7 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Now, tell me why a CV would spot a DD, meanwhile just losing planes, and not getting anything in return. 

If he doesn't make enough damage he'll also pay a lot of credits to spot DDs. I'd say nope, no cigar...

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5 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

When he has to keep a DD spotted, he is actually losing time, in which he could do damage.

= get used to take the flak for not spotting DDs (which was the complaint that I replied to... kinda...)

 

For me the above reads like: waaaaaaaahhhhhh my damage.... wahhhhh....

 

If playing for the win is secondary behind "I wanna do damage..." taking the flak should be expected.

[Pikkozoikum]

43 minutes ago, Tigerdavid said:

Nerfed the CV enough already? When? I don't get it with any ships. 

Nah, first they need to lose spotting ability and then they are not allowed to attack ships with any AA, then its fine, I guess. Kappa

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

5 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

When he has to keep a DD spotted, he is actually losing time, in which he could do damage. 

 

When a carrier spots a DD, he basically takes it out of the battle equation at that very moment. Doesn't that perfectly mirror the surface ships that should not complain about being focused by a carrier because he's keeping the carrier from attacking the rest of the team, you know that type of BS we've been reading for the past 2 years?

[redraven]

23 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

 

I'm saying, it doesn't look like rng, it looks like it's scripted. Like there is an event of:

66% -> Bomb have rng dispersion, can be hits or misses

33% -> Bomb will guided towards the water

 

I honestly wouldnt be the least suprised if it tunred out to be like that. Like there is some hidden under the hood mechanic that skews the spread. I can absolutely believe WG to be the scumbag dirty company to implement something. Hell we know for a fact they rigged crates. What stops them from doing it with aim?

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Europizza said:

When a carrier spots a DD, he basically takes it out of the battle equation at that very moment. Doesn't that perfectly mirror the surface ships that should not complain about being focused by a carrier because he's keeping the carrier from attacking the rest of the team, you know that type of BS we've been reading for the past 2 years?

Does! Well that's fixed now eh? And still they are complaining. 

 

[Pikkozoikum]

3 hours ago, redraven said:

I honestly wouldnt be the least suprised if it tunred out to be like that. Like there is some hidden under the hood mechanic that skews the spread. I can absolutely believe WG to be the scumbag dirty company to implement something. Hell we know for a fact they rigged crates. What stops them from doing it with aim?

it just looks too much like that. If there is just a random dispersion, then it's extremly unlikely, that a bomb drops "often" exactly towards the water, even if the drop is covered by the ship to 99%

 

I tested it now in trainigns room, did something  like 10 drops. Not a single bomb missed, even though 20% were not overlapping

With haku

 

When I play Kaga, there is always 1 bomb missing the target

[RepSrb]

they wrecked CVs in clanwars, whole class in whipped out , 

In outrageous move with 0 announcement , they banned fast Haku and Fdr who could take a hit , Midway is useless with so much AA buffed petros and stalins , MvR is nerfed to the ground ,and Audicius was never played anyway because its so bad. 

cvs are no more playable class... back to 2 bbs in team.

 

this is so they pretend to care about whining bb babies to cater to them , and in preparation for uber soviet cvs that will come.

[El2aZeR]

2 hours ago, RepSrb said:

Midway is useless with so much AA buffed petros and stalins

 

[Sink_Different]

14 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

When I play Kaga, there is always 1 bomb missing the target

Quelle horreur!! 

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, RepSrb said:

Midway is useless with so much AA buffed petros and stalins

Boarrffff, used it for a final-nutty-game - with 1 BB and 5 DDs... and I got almost 200K damage. 

 

[RepSrb]

4 hours ago, Seraphice said:

Wait, are you saying that now not 100% of all teams are forced to run CV to stay competitive and double BB is actually a viable alternative and people can actually choose which strategy they want to employ, making the meta more diverse and more fun to play? Wow that's way too outrageous. Truly not acceptable. What a joke your comment is.

yeah carriers out of tier 5 , 7 ,9 , and now 10.

and still people spoiled dd prats n bb babies whine....

[Pikkozoikum]

10 hours ago, Sink_Different said:

Quelle horreur!! 

What does that mean?
I tested Kaga in test room, with one corner not overlapping the BB. like ~10% of the full area not covering. And there was always one bomb going to that corner v_v

[tocqueville8]

On 6/20/2021 at 4:00 PM, Chips_uk said:

If you don't want to play World of Warplanes, probably best to stop playing entirely - as it can only get worse

It's probably going to get better.

 

Ise and Tone have just been released, so lots of people are trying them for the first time.

In a while they'll get bored with them and we'll mostly go back to the usual team composition, just like in the past I've seen games with 6 Smolensks or 7 Thunderers but now they're not significantly more common than any other ship.

[Pikkozoikum]

Ahskance mentioned, that the summit is often misquoted or misunderstood and thus I watched some stuff of it and came to the point "they balance for popularity". And I actually think this is a heavy misunderstanding.

The question was something like, if WG wants the influence of CVs closer to the other ship types and the guy answered something like yes, but they also watching a popularity and they don't want them uncomfortable to play.

I think what he means with that: They don't want cut down the influence in such a hard way, that the CV becomes underpowered. Underpowered means uncomfortable to play, and uncomfortable to play means lower popularity.

So in other words, he just wanted to say, that they want balance them, but in a steady way, so they don't nerf them too hard.

That's how i understand it and it sounds actually more logically^^

 

Flamu even asked, if they aritfically boosting popularty by buffing that class, and he answers with no ^^

[Nibenay78]

On 6/20/2021 at 4:32 PM, BLUB__BLUB said:

 Also, teammates shooting at a DD is an illusion, most of the time. They rather yell CV to take care of it.

You really dont play DD often do you?

[Nibenay78]

1 hour ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Ahskance mentioned, that the summit is often misquoted or misunderstood and thus I watched some stuff of it and came to the point "they balance for popularity". And I actually think this is a heavy misunderstanding.

The question was something like, if WG wants the influence of CVs closer to the other ship types and the guy answered something like yes, but they also watching a popularity and they don't want them uncomfortable to play.

I think what he means with that: They don't want cut down the influence in such a hard way, that the CV becomes underpowered. Underpowered means uncomfortable to play, and uncomfortable to play means lower popularity.

So in other words, he just wanted to say, that they want balance them, but in a steady way, so they don't nerf them too hard.

That's how i understand it and it sounds actually more logically^^

 

Flamu even asked, if they aritfically boosting popularty by buffing that class, and he answers with no ^^

No doubt they listen to feedback of the player experience and perception! 

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[redraven]

3 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

 
No doubt they listen to feedback of the player experience and perception! 

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Yea no doubt they listen to us. Everyone was begging them on a daily basis for absolute fuckin' fantasy napkin soviet selfjerking CVs right? 

Sure there wasnt anything people have been asking for longer? Like... uhm... a BATTLECRUISER LINE? 

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Nibenay78 said:

You really dont play DD often do you?

Nah but I get rekt by them often enough, meanwhile spamming the F3. 

Guess what, nothing happens. Usually I am the only one shooting at the DD. 

I even do it with BBs (seems to be quite rare a BB shooting a DD). 

 

the (rare... very rare...) times that I play DD, I lose to the CV about 1 in 20 games.

Mostly I get whacked by other DDs (because I suck), and by cruisers that I am trying to kill.

BBs have no chance. I kill them, they don't kill me. They don't see me, and when they do it is too late.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

So in other words, he just wanted to say, that they want balance them, but in a steady way, so they don't nerf them too hard.

That's how i understand it and it sounds actually more logically^^

Hahaha. and that 'careful balancing' takes them over the 2 year mark, is still ongoing while throwing in new wrenches like the absurd and completely different working FDR and now the unpredictable different working russian carriers everyone was asking for.

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, Europizza said:

Hahaha. and that 'careful balancing' takes them over the 2 year mark, is still ongoing while throwing in new wrenches like the absurd and completely different working FDR and now the unpredictable different working russian carriers everyone was asking for.

 

It is like, you have a car with no brakes, you take it to the garage.

You come back, they have washed it and given it new shiny bumpers and a free airbag.